10 minutes ago, Verbal32 said:

 

Was Clov the one that was saying SD was definitely town?  I wasn't active at that time, but I thought I read something like that in my catchup.  If true, then I'd be interested to know his alignment - it would help me draw further conclusions on SD.....but I can't move my vote there yet.

2 minutes ago, Cory Caboose said:

Actually after seeing that I think a Clov w flip would actually make SD more likely town

 

Tripped was ahead of me on that one

Agreed - that's what I was trying to say above.

5 minutes ago, whiskey delta said:

In a direct comparison I would say I’ve liked SD’s posts D2 much more than Hallia/Leelou from a content perspective. He’s caught up in the PR mechanics but I think the process could be genuine and I’m more lenient on that than I would normally be probably knowing he’s still learning 

What do you think about my point that he spewed me town b/c he was acting like he knew my alignment already?  Rookie mistake, or scum slip?

Initial gut reaction was a slip, but I acknowledge that sometimes mistakes are just mistakes, even for town (my shot on Zander, for example, lol).

1 minute ago, Darthe said:

It's interesting that over half the game isn't voting.  Vote clov 

Was Clov the one that was saying SD was definitely town?  I wasn't active at that time, but I thought I read something like that in my catchup.  If true, then I'd be interested to know his alignment - it would help me draw further conclusions on SD.....but I can't move my vote there yet.

6 minutes ago, whiskey delta said:

Okay, that’s fine enough I guess. Do you have specifics though that you liked/didn’t like? You’ve quoted me a few times talking about you so I know you’re seeing my posts but you aren’t actually saying anything about them. Maybe it’s a time thing but I’d like to have that convo

I feel like I can follow your POV and explanations easily, even if I don't necessarily agree with your conclusions.  Example:  your Leelou read.  I'm feeling good about her, and it's because of how she made me do homework - that's townie behavior (from her).....and you have her in your POE.  So we don't have to agree for me to follow your mindset.

The net result of that is null so far.

Of course my correction starts a new page, wtf.

*thought

18 minutes ago, Cory Caboose said:

Verb on a scale of 1-10 how much regret do you feel for not shooting SD?

Maybe a 2 or 3.  I really though I was hero-shooting Zander.  I had a parade planned with confetti and everybody's undying love for taking out scum and saving 800 pages of reading.

Then he flipped town and the rest is lolverbal.

9 minutes ago, Leelou said:

for now I’ll give you the benefit of doubt, but I could see this kill for you from either vig or scum. 
 

^ @Darthe
 

im out in a field right now, is there a vote count? 

Totally, I would have shot him as either alignment, I'm not making the argument that it's AI for me at all - it's not.

4 minutes ago, SinisterDeath said:

If I was wolf, I probably would have taken out someone that mildly sussed me, but felt someone else was more sus.. Like Leelou. But we know from mod rules, if there are multiple wolves, they only get 1 NK.

If I was a Wolf, my team would probably NK me, or try to get me Vigged, as I'm extremely annoying to them as everyone else in this game is constantly sussing me as a wolf.

If I was a wolf, wouldn't my play today to be sit quiet and not say much of anything without massive coaching? Obviously the more I post, the more I look like a wolf, right?

I'm not sure how to respond to this.

First para:  that has nothing to do with you acting like you know I'm town.

Second para:  that makes no sense, so let's ignore that.

Third para:  the "what if" game isn't really going to help answer your questions there, tbh.

17 minutes ago, Verbal32 said:

@Leelou

 

I haven't forgotten that I need to do some homework and look at why I suspected Zander mid-D1.  I had some work meetings and I'm in the office today, so not easy to just sit there and mafia all day, heh.

Here's some copy/paste (working 2 tabs) of stuff Zander said that I didn't like.  My meeting got moved, so I have a little time.  I'll add explanations where useful.

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Also need a lot more from.Verb I don't necessarily need him to fully be caught up just somewhat and current and posting 

This was after I came to the thread and had been posting and responding for a while.  My response was "weird take" from this.

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No im saying I need you to be current and posting all the way up to EOD so I don't get the urge to push your lynch if you're a Villager

When I pushed back a little, this was his response.  I fired back that this looked (to me) like he was laying the groundwork and some breadcrumbs for my lynch in case I didn't return.  I was only away for a couple hours at most, I was pretty active that day (Monday).

I even posted about not liking what I perceived as a nudge from Zander - it just looked like he was breadcrumbing a lynch on me if I was absent EOD1.  It looked bad, I said as much, and he didn't provide anything else to refute that......so I shot him N1.

4 minutes ago, SinisterDeath said:

Sure was. I mean, it makes sense to me to try to bait some wolves to go after an AFK Villager that I hinted could be PR with no actual reason to believe so other then some wild cockamamie reason for why you would be one.

The only thing this confirms to me is that VooDoo isn't a wolf.
 

I was more talking about why you asked Cory why he protected Darthe over me, as if that was a question that needed any explanation at all.

@Leelou

I haven't forgotten that I need to do some homework and look at why I suspected Zander mid-D1.  I had some work meetings and I'm in the office today, so not easy to just sit there and mafia all day, heh.

1 minute ago, SinisterDeath said:

I think it's entirely possible you're reading far too much into whether I "knew" or "suspected" as a scum slip.
Read it in a rhetorical voice of "assuming this is true...".

I get it, but you're a smart guy and I try to read posts as they are - not as how they are explained later on that I should interpret them as.

19 minutes ago, SinisterDeath said:

On D1 when I claimed Verb could be a PR, and ya'll got mad at me for saying PR's out loud, Why'd you protect Darthe instead of Verb?

Is this a serious question?

11 minutes ago, Darthe said:

You know the answer here.  Ya'll tried to NK me and Verb being incompetent gave you a lucky replacement NK.

Ouch, but true.

30 minutes ago, whiskey delta said:

Checking in real quick between stops.
 

These new developments are spicy. On the one hand I agree with Darthe because I absolutely think Verb would fake claim here because he has mechanical evidence to support him and as Darthe pointed out it could draw other PRs his way to waste their utility for the Night. On the other he claimed that shot and that also fits so I think that tables him for D2. Like Cory he’s tied to the claim and he’s also a more direct threat to wolves if Town.

 

congrats, you really have formed your own circle by yourself. My trust circle is a gun free zone so can’t let you in yet sorry. Walk me thru how I’m in your POE? @Verbal32

 

If Cory/Darthe/Verb are all Town that means I’m down to only Clov/Leelou/SD as wagons for the Day.

 

I have been thinking more and have other stuff I want to say to you but I’d rather wait for you to answer me first and maybe we can have some more real-time talk tonight again after

@Clovdyx

Simple, I wasn't leaning one way or the other on you, and like I explained earlier - a non-town lean (even if it's null) results in being part of the POE for me.

43 minutes ago, SinisterDeath said:

And if you're wrong? What does that mean other than you can't read me at all? IMO, you lead a wagon on me and I flip villager, it'll make you look like scum... But hey, that's a game winning move right there for wolf...right?

I feel like you're making my point for me right now.  You posted as if you knew I was town.  Not thought, not suspected, as if you KNEW.  That's a scum slip to me.

I'm calling that what it is, a scum slip.

Vote: SD

Just now, SinisterDeath said:

I guess? I still haven't read anything from Hallia that makes or breaks her being town, and Hallia doesn't seem to care if I join her on wagoning with Darthe if they agree on who to vote with...

You guess?  There's no guarantee of any specific PR in this game, so you can't assume I'm town.  But you worded your posts as if you KNEW I was town and talked about a good shot from me hitting scum or the scum NK taking me out.  This makes it sound like you know my alignment.

4 minutes ago, SinisterDeath said:

Lets say you all wagon me and I Flip villager (I will)

Maybe Verbal gets a good NK in and takes out a wolf. Maybe he hits a villager, maybe he holsters?
Maybe the wolf eats Verbal. Maybe cory saves Verbal and Cory gets punked.
We could see 3 dead before D3 starts.

That would leave us with 7 to 8 players, 2 to 3 of them being wolves, and that's if you don't kill a PR. 
You have no reason to trust me, I have no reason to trust you, cory, or Verbal. But from where I stand, if you Wagon me, you're helping the wolves.
 

Did you just spew me town with this post?!

5 minutes ago, Leelou said:

He 100% will go for a hero shot. 

 

Verb, what exactly made you think Zander was scum to shoot at him? 

Yep, ninja'd me there.

As for the question, damn you because I can't remember what the posts were...and now I need to go look for it.  Thanks for that.

6 minutes ago, TrippedOnReality said:

Can you talk me through your PoE and who you have town reads on outside of cory/darthe and why?  Also, is your PoE ordered?

 

Anyone who has played with verbal know if this is how they would normally handle vig/claim?  If true, I'm pretty annoyed about shooting outside of counterwagons, but I have no idea if town!verbal is more likely to go for the hero shot or not.

POE not ordered, it's just a list of people I'm not leaning town on.  Not necessarily leaning scum, either, just not town....therefore my POE.

And I will *always* go for the hero shot.  Always.

6 minutes ago, Darthe said:

So here's the thing.  I was 100% sure that you'd be locktown if you claimed vanilla and said that the vig was made up last night.  Not doing that means you're leaning into the vig shot, but that's troublesome because Zander was the clearest villager in this game and you either didn't read or you're lying.  You had a whole night to do anything you wanted to catch up, and I can't imagine a player as good as you making no evolution in your reads with 24 hours of completely free time.  Ergo, more likely you're a wolf and killed Zander than a townie who lost his mind.  I've zero interest in watching you get copped, if you couldn't put in the effort to read, seems like a good way for a wolf to last an extra day and then out a PR and waste a cop shot all in one.

Agree to disagree on Zander being the clearest town.  I admittedly skim his posts when I'm catching up, and only pay close attention when it's real time.

I'd also like to discuss what "24 hours of completely free time" means to different people.  To me, it means not come back to the the game until the next phase, and then catch up on whatever I missed if I'm a little late back to the thread.  This was advertised as a slank game - it's literally in the title.

In reality, I was hoping I'd be made scum this game so I could lolcat with spidey pics half the time and taunt the other half.  All lynching me does now is remove my ability to accidentally shoot another townie.....but it also removes my ability to shoot scum.

23 minutes ago, Cory Caboose said:

Any strong inclinations on a vote today Verb?

My POE right now contains SD, Clov, AJ, and Tripped, with a complete 'I have no clue' on Voodoo.

I'm likely not voting outside of that bucket unless something drastic happens, in the next 24 hours.

Just now, Verbal32 said:

Though I'd prefer the Cop just view me tonight instead.

...seeing as if I can get confirmed, the longer the game goes on the more of a threat I become to scum....who would need to shoot me, allowing Cop/Doc free reign to do their thing.

Though I'd prefer the Cop just view me tonight instead.