Oh, come on. You gave me lip because my windows 7 computer.

No. I may have got it on DVD for you.

That's because you can't mislynch mafia. Even Z.knows he's mafia.

Heavy, can you give me your thoughts on Andy? You think she is town or mafia? Why? Just for Heavy, no.peeking.you. Kidding. Is just some general mafia advice from a bad player that doesn't understand philosophy, lol.

Andy, can you explain the "2 wolves on Turin " post?

Thanks for the effort you were able to make. As for your questions... I am pretty much committed to lynching either Z or Heavy today. The whole frenemies thing is too much. I might be convinced of Andy. The Dice, Mills, Cairos was an early thing. I am mostly looking at Dice as a villager as he has recently begun doing some #work and he has seen some of the same things I did. Like the potential Andy slip. That he went full Dice on it isn't surprising.

In b4 "fishing" comments. I have already said to the cop, "DO NOT REVEAL ".

I seeing them as fully W/W based on their interactions from D1, and the Z issues I just posted. Sorry it.is.lengthy. I do have independent problems with both however. So if one.flips town, the.other is.not clear. But.ifone.flips.mafia, I'm lynching the other the next day barring a red peek.

The first line.should be NOT liking. I declare, DM has been committing the NOT in so many posts this game.

Heavy, will try to explain my entire thoughts process. This is me talking so no quote or things, just my remembering and impressions... In other liking Zander much this entire game for several reasons. 1. Game start he LOCK CLEARS Cairos. This looks even worse to me knowing that Cairos was mafia, busy, and self-described not good at mafia.i could easily see Z work to "protect" him (yeah, I don't care about "Z is willing to bus", people have meta so they can break.meta) 2. The argument with YOU. That it was with you doesn't matter with regard to my take on him. It could have been with anyone and I would not like it in my take on Z. (It does matter in my take on you however) 3. I did not see Zander drive to lynch you. You don't know because you haven't played but this is Zander lite in this game. He is tenacious when he thinks someone really is mafia. That your back and forth with him never seemed to go anywhere felt off to me. 4. His actions at EoD. He put the brakes on @L-2. (On one level this is null as we have many new players, but I think no one was really around. Could be wrong about that). He advocated for Mils as a lynch option along with you when Mills had NO VOTES and there probably weren't 6 people available to vote. To me it again was odd to throw a random person that had some suspicion in along with someone he had been saying was mafia all day. That Cairos ended up voting you could easily be a plan to make you look better and give him an out to switch from you to me(this is actually a good reason for the Millls kill as it establishes that the known mafia voted Heavy instead of a known townie) 5. The entire VILLAGELEADER shtick. The purpose of it is to establish a cover that can be used as being non-alignment indicative. But the reasoning for it is something that gives an ample place to hide as mafia. Just the meta gives him the D1 pass from Soo and Dice. This is a small game. We have ONE mislynch before we lose. No one should have a pass. That is enough about Z. I put him on the back burner yesterday because there was no way I would get a lynch on D1. Sooh and Dice clearly stated they were not gonna even look there yet. I was asleep when Cairos and Mills both came on nudging I thought they were both bad but Cairos came first so I didn't want to switch. When Z (and then later Dice), called for a halt, I listened because you always want as much info as possible on D1. I know they are both good players so I respect when they ask for things. They also see the game differently than I do so it could be something I missed. Looking back I think Z was trying to see if he could get the lynch of Cairos. I'm not sure if it was a potential bus attempt on you or just trying to lynch Mills. You are implicated in part for your interactions with Z. Again I saw it as 2 mafia barking at each other but not really doing much. It also allows you both to stay out.of the main fray as you were locked on each other. You had your own red flags. My main one was you were determined it seemed to be more sus of me even than the person you thought was so mafia. So why vote you now when I feel Z is mafia? We have to catch all of you. I don't really care which goes first. Z and Dice both have you on their target lists even if their reasons vary. So if they will actually help lynch you then it tells me something about them. Personally, I don't think Z will. He has come up with many #reasons to avoid pushing for your lynch despite how much he says you are mafia.

Okay. Sorry. I didn't mean anything to be personal.

Heavy, I think it is very obvious that you and Zander had a big hullabaloo yesterday of calling each other wolves without actually making any serious attempt to get each other lynched. This is one of the more we'll known gambits in mafia for mafia teammates to perform. It works because people don't like confrontation and couldn't imagine such a thing being made up. That you continue the snark with no substantial effort makes it stand out to me. I have you guys as the remaining wolves and am probably not voting anyone other than you 2 today. Your own behaviour has been shady. If you look at early game I was waiting for people to show up before voting you because early game is fun and I wanted to let people have their silliness before getting serious.

Goodnight Dice. No one is ever "never mafia".

My take is they are taking the wonder girls back to TV to get back training and to let everyone know about Liandrin. Possibly everyone else is tagging along. Also, Rand isn't going to Tear yet. That seems quite clear.

UNVOTE VOTE HEAVY I think he's mafia. Z you were on him all day yesterday but now seem to be trying to come up with ways to clear him. Dice you think he is mafia because of Andy potential slip. I think he is the best choice. Still not lynching Gudrean. Thinking much more likely she is newb town, not newb mafia. Dice you went down to about 70% town with that. We only get 1 mislynch.

Dice, how's your migraine doing? I know it usually takes Ithi like 3 days to get over them. I do needy our input on Z/Heavy, EoD, stuffs. It's late here again. Stupid work. I can call work Stupid, right? I'm just gonna go to sleep. See ya in the morning.

Lololololol. LOCK CLEAR. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Now who's trying to push a narrative? Where was this level of fight in your Heavy case. Oh that's right there never was a Heavy case. I just used my last 3 minutes of break to catch up but had to laugh at this.

Ooh 3 trains. Which one??? Hmmmmm VOTE ZANDER Hey Z maybe you should switch to Heavy so there's a counter train, lol Now I really gotta work.

I got like 5 minutes before I have to actually put my phone up and work but I wanna clear this stuff up immediately. @Gudrean, this game is open setup. It has one Mafia Godfather, 2 Mafia Goons, 1 Town Cop, and 6 Vanilla Town. All roles are determined by random.org. so anyone has as good a chance at any role as any other player.

I suggest that you look again this was the VC 13 hours from DL No one has more than 2 votes. Why are you not really advocating for anyone to join you on your big mafia read? most of your end of day posts are trolling or hot takes or wrasslin talk. If you wanna lead the village you have to lead. Most of what you posted was distraction which makes reading and keeping up more difficult. And now I need to get ready for work. I will be back much later tonight for a bit before bed but I'm really waiting to hear from people.

Here is some stuff from day 1. Note the time stamps for the vote counts. hopefully this works. The BOLD at top of each one is mine.

Sorry to hear your feeling poorly. I'm lucky I don't get migraines but Ithi does so I do know how they can wipe you out. Keep hydrated, get whatever rest you can, hope you feel better soon. I really hope that everyone comes in with their thoughts today. It really takes a village.

Dice is like 95% villa in this game right now. I do want him to dig in and do some Dice work and not just chit chat. Oh this is IMPORTANT. To the cop in this game. Do not reveal yourself in the odd case that you viewed me town last night. They will claim I am the Godfather so it doesn't count. If I get lynched it is okay. Then everyone will know I am being honest with you. If that happens I beseech you to peek either Z or Heavy, even if you peeked them last night. Actually, especially if you peeked them last night. If you peeked someone else, then please peek one of them tonight. I only ask you to follow this if I get lynched today and flip town. If anything else happens then you do what you think best.

I'm not saying he wasn't busing his teammate. I'm saying I think he was trying to bus Heavy. He and Heavy were locked in on each other all day (while he joked about others coaching him). I think HE WAS COACHING HIM. It is a classic gambit where you pick a huge fight with your teammate D1 either for cover and to ensure no one sees you as W/W, or to straight out bus for cred. If he had got the train to flip to Heavyand Heavy flipped mafia also would you have given him town cred for fighting with and nailing a maf on D1? Would you have leaned into cutting Cairos slack as a villa due to the narrative that it couldn't be 2 mafia trains like that. Zander goes back to acting like the TTT and saying something like "see I told you Cairos was LOCK CLEAR". Then he pushes me and Dice as the leaders of the Cairos train. No one else is active enough to stop him. GAME OVER. Look at Heavy's posts today. Some of yesterday too. He seems to be echoing Zander's thoughts. Odd since they are so sure each other are mafia.

I'm catching up here before I go back to go thru eod again. This is Zander trying to give town cred to Heavy for a wolf flip by me. Yesterday he was all for voting Heavy. Today he sussed him a bit but then voted me I think. This is obviously wolf team behaviour. If people don't or won't see it then they are gonna win. I'm gonna stop responding until I read all of it.