Turin Turambar
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Zander:(mafia). I think it is most likely Z and Heavy or possibly Dice (might be tinfoil). The biggest thing for me is the Heavy interactions where he keeps at him but never quite tries to lynch him. Note the difference in how he has approached going after me. Heavy:(likely mafia). He has been in the fray.w/ Z most of the game switching to me at crucial times. This might be due to the fact I have actively sought his lynch (a understandable reaction). I do think it is unlikely he is mafia if Z is town. Andy:( not sure). I can accept the "wolves on Turin " explanation. I don't remember enough of her posts. I think I need to look at her again. Donchadh:( null ). Just not enough activity. I know it is his first game and RL is a real thing, but I would have considered policy lynch if game bigger. His vote on D1 seemed reasonable tho. Dice:(slight town lean) This changes on a Z town flip. If Z flips mafia, and Heavy town, then I could see Dice as Z's partner. Mostly because he seems willing to give Z free reign with his TTT act. Sooh:( town lean). I need more Sooh analysis. She seems like she is just really busy and cant dig in enough. The insights I've seen feel true though. Gudrean:(likely town). She has been pretty active and asking questions. Her thought processes have seemed reasonable given her inexperience. My only real concern is if it is a smokescreen. I don't think it is however. Back in a few, my fluffy dog is demanding my attention. -
UNVOTE VOTE ZANDER I stepped away a bit last night cause I was working but also to reassess my process. I still the most straightforward solution is Z and Heavy are teammates, but I do need to look at other possible solutions. I think that Z changing his talking point to "I need to resolve that slot" screams of setting up to claim he was just wrong. If you manage to.lynch.me.today, when I flip town, where does that lead you? DL is today. I would.like everyone to post a listing of your reads.it doesn't have to be super long with quotes. Just your opinions and a bit about why/how you came to them. I'm gonna do mine so you can see. Yours doesn't have to look like mine, but I really want.to hear from everyone if possible.
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Andy, language. Ask Ithi if you can edit the dropping out of that post. Thank you for your thoughts.
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I don't think I ever implied anyone was dim. Except maybe Zander, lol. If it came across that way, I apologise. I have to go to work now, so people have some space from my volume. Good night for now.
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Mafia can be frustrating. To answer your question though, there was no way I was going to get lynched on day 1. At the end there was very little chance that anyone other than Cairos would. There just wasn't enough time or people to manifest a complete train inthat time. Since I wasn't a choice. Even Zander had me as lock D1 villa at that time. Cairos couldn't vote me. Well he could have but it wouldn't have had the same effect. If you think people aren't trying to solve, then interact with them. Ask questions. Ask in a even manner without any insinuation of their alignment. Here's an example: Right after the flip on Cairos, Andy said something along the lines of "there were 2 wolves on Turin (train)". The only two people on my train at EoD were you and Andy herself. Does that change your thoughts on Andy? I asked you something similar before, but what is your overall read on Andy?
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ZANDER, take yourself out of the mix here. Say it is your dream and mafia is Cairos, Heavy, and me. follow the actions of D1. You think Cairos nudges my.lynch like that if I'm mafia with him? I would think he would have either jumped on if the plan was to bus, or tried to steer things another way. Mafia will frequently try to distract from a building lynch by breaking momentum and or shining a light somewhere else.
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OK. Here we go. This is with you and Heavy as the other two mafiosos. At EoD, the known mafioso, Cairos, chose to vote Heavy an unknown over Mills, a known townie. Some people could be convinced that Cairos, who knows both of their alignments wouldn't risk making his teammate a viable lynch, so would vote Mills. That he voted Heavy means Heavy must be town. I think a clever wolf could spin that. Especially, if there was no other really vocal people to push against it. #tinfoilisafinematerial #endgamewifom
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That's why my post was the way it was. You can't multi quote into spoilers. And as far I know you can't get to the actual code like the.old days.
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Hey Heavy. First lol about saying the pings. Missed opportunity for a one ping only gif. Losing my touch. I did make a theory about Mills death. ZANDER killed him to give you some town cred. Cairos voted you at end of day as opposed to Mills who is now a known townie(although dead). Assuming Cairos would never vote a teammate in that situation so hence baguette, Heavy is town.
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When you saw it you said it.means nothing to you in seemed a dismissive way. Perhaps I read that wrong. You keep bringing up broken quotes like it is cheating or something. It felt like you were refusing to acknowledge any validity to the work itself. I don't care if you think it's towny or not. Work is not only a town endeavour. I'll drop it as a misunderstanding then.
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So something you did onetime at band camp asmafiais always mafia but something you always do as mafia is not being mafia. Got it.
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Why are you upset about that? If you think it was fake, then say that and prove it. Other than that, what's your problem there? Aside from it making you look bad.
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Mills wasn't the cop. On his kill scene it shows VANILLA TOWN. You can say results at any time but.in this game it means you will most likely be killed the next night. Although clever mafia might just kill the player you viewed, depending upon the game situation.
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I don't have a kill. If I was mafia, you would be dead already. I kill the most dangerous to me. In a scenario where your town and I'm not, my team lost a goon already, a good player is more dangerous than a cop. Game is only lasting 4 days. It takes 2 to view the GF, so there is only day 3 or day 4 that the GF can be viewed mafia. If they pick the same townie N1&2, then they never get the GF view.
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I agree with the last part. The only thing is it might be a waste since I think your dead if your town and if your not I'm probably dead.
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Lynch: Heavy Not Lynch: Gudrean
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Lololol. It would if it ends up going nowhere.
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Also. That is fishing for the cop. If you knew it then probably Sooh and Dice know it and why. I said I don't really go for that stuff. I do love the.mechanics of power roles and how to interact with them at night but never liked those kind of tricks.
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Okay. I didn't go there because I don't really like the whole code words thing. Like making everyone say I'm town in LD games. I think it is against the spirit of the game So, fair enough
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This is twisting and makes me doubt you more. I never said they couldn't say. I said it was a bad idea as they would be killed.
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I doubt you do that if you are the cop. But it could be WIFOM. OK, at least as a mental exercise, if I'm wrong and it isn't you and Heavy. Your also wrong and I am town. Who do you think are mafia?
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Yes. There is a role in the game called cop. Each night they can select.one.player to visit. They get a report of.the.alignment of that player. Either town or mafia. The problem is if they say they are the cop or give their results then the mafia know who they are and will kill them the next night. So right now the cop knows the alignment of one player. The complications are that the could be Mills, who is dead or they could have visited the.mafia Godfather. Visiting them, would give a false town read on the first trip.
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Nope. You been around the.block. mentioning a.peek right at start.of day is fishing for reply from the cop. Deny it.all you want. Or trying to breadcrumb for a.later reveal.
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Actually, that was you fishing to start with. The out of the blue peek mention is begging to get reactions. In this game the cop is likely to be a newer player based on numbers and random.org so it was possible that they might have jumped out and said their results. You denying the possibility or discarding it out of hand is disingenuous.