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Adam's Wheel of Television: Showrunner Q&A Summary

  • Wheel of Time showrunner Rafe Judkins hosted an impromptu Q&A yesterday and revealed some key information about the TV series.

Adam Whitehead is Dragonmount's TV blogger. Adam has been writing about film and television, The Wheel of Time, and other genre fiction for over fifteen years. Be sure to check out his websites, The Wertzone and Atlas of Ice and Fire (including The Wheel of Time Atlas!) as well as his Patreon.


With Wheel of Time production suspended – along with almost every other TV show and film on the planet – I was thinking it might be some time before we got more solid news on the series. However, showrunner Rafe Judkins surprised everyone by hosting a Q&A yesterday on his Instagram feed.


There was a lot of exciting information to learn here, so let’s get to the salient points.


  • There is no connection at all between the current series and the 2015 Winter Dragon pilot from Red Eagle.
  • Confirming what we’ve previously reported, Season 1 will consist of eight episodes. At the time of the shutdown, production was completed on episodes 1-4, they were still shooting episodes 5-6 and prepping episodes 7-8, whilst writing Season 2.
  • Post-production is continuing remotely, with Rafe currently approving vfx shots and editing from home.
  • One of the first challenges they found was that Mat and Rand visit 20 villages and cities in The Eye of the World including Emond’s Field, Taren Ferry, Baerlon, Shadar Logoth, Whitebridge, Arien, Four Kings, Market Sheran, Carysford, Breen’s Spring, Caemlyn and Fal Dara, plus lots of unnamed ones. Doing this on the show would be impossible, so they have condensed the trip along the Caemlyn Road in particular.
  • “Honey in the Tea” (Chapter 24 of Knife of Dreams, about Egwene in the White Tower) is one of Rafe’s favourite chapters of the entire saga.
  • Elayne, Aviendha and Min are three of Rafe’s favourite characters. They will not be combined. Min will appear in Season 1, but Rafe did not comment on Elayne.
  • Sometimes very minor characters will be folded into a more major one to make better use of the cast, but there will be no “nutso” combinations for the sake of it. “New” characters will be few and far between, and will be inspired by characters in the books or a number of characters combined. The production cannot cast every named or appearing character from the books because then they’d only be able to afford “a radio play.”
  • As well as main composer David Buckley, there will be “musical guests” on the show.
  • Actors are speaking the Old Tongue where required.
  • Lord Captain Geofram Bornhald is in Season 1 but his actor has not yet been confirmed. He has what Rafe describes as his “favourite costume” on the show.
  • Rafe has been spending “more time” with Ishamael in the writing process. His favourite Forsaken are Graendal, Lanfear and Moghedien.
  • Rafe has had to make some “painful” cuts.
  • The visual effects (vfx) team has spent a lot of time on channelling and how it looks. The early work looks “awesome” so far and Rafe screamed when seeing Moiraine channel on screen for the first time. The show will have a fair bit of CGI but they are trying to do as much as possible in-camera.
  • An Aiel will appear in Season 1, and the one in question will “shock” audiences.
  • Rafe wants tall actors for Aiel but has noted that acting ability will always be the first priority.
  • The show has a real sword master who handles the weapons and training.
  • There are actually two horses playing Bela, one trained to pull a cart and one for riding by herself.
  • Mandarb and Aldieb also have their own horse actors.
  • When asked if we will “see the prologue from The Eye of the World on screen in Season 1,” Rafe replied that we “will hear that phrase.”
  • Fal Dara is Rafe’s favourite set in Season 1 and the Great Serpent Rings are his favourite props.
  • Narg has not been cut.
  • Harriet McDougal (Robert Jordan’s widow and literary executor) has visited the set in Prague, read all the scripts and provided notes when she felt the script was moving too far away from the books.
  • Rafe is a fan of Brandon Sanderson’s work, including both the Mistborn and Stormlight Archive series. Brandon has read all the scripts, provided notes and consulted on the project. Rafe would have him do more, but Brandon is busy with his own projects.
  • Loial will be presented properly as an Ogier, and will be not made more human looking for practical reasons.
  • The show is making some adjustments so it will be understandable for those who haven’t read the books, but “Google exists” for other queries.
  • Alanna, Verin and Siuan are Rafe’s three favourite Aes Sedai. He also loves Sheriam and Pevara. Galina is his least-favourite.


My main takeaway is that, as previously speculated, it should be possible for Amazon to complete the first four episodes even with the shutdown. Whether that means they will transmit them or wait until production can resume and finish the whole season is not known. If the shutdown is likely to persist into 2021, they may decide to air the completed episodes as new content, but if it looks like the pandemic has eased and production can be remounted later this year they may choose to wait until the last four episodes are completed as well.


Obviously, the health and wellbeing of the Wheel of Time cast and crew, and of the residents of the city of Prague and the Czech Republic, is the primary concern at the moment.


As usual, please follow the Dragonmount TV page for the last developments and let us know your thoughts in the comments.



A full transcript of the Q&A follows


Which character has your favorite costume so far?

Rafe: Ooo this is tough. Probably Geofram Bornhald.


Can we expect a trailer for the show anytime soon?

Rafe: Probably not for a long while sadly.


When will we get more casting announcements to hold us over?

Rafe: I’ll try to get them to put out something soon. A lot of folks in all departments are affected by the state of the world right now though, so I can’t promise a timeline.


Are you using taller actors to portray the Aiel, or camera trickery?

Rafe: Trying to get tall folks. But I’m less concerned with height and more concerned with acting ability.


Will [Min], [Elayne], and [Aviendha] have to be combined into a single character?

Rafe: Girl you crazy, I’m not going to combing huge characters like that. Maybe sometimes a minor character folded into a more major one to make better use of our cast but nothing nutso


Do you have a favourite chapter from the whole saga? Mine is Veins of Gold.

Rafe: So many. But Honey in the Tea is one off the top of my head.


How many trollocs do I have to take out to become a writing assistant?

Rafe: Violence is never the answer


RJ writes a lot of internal headspace stuff. What’s 1 hint on how the show will handle that?

Rafe: That’s the biggest difficulty of any novel adaptation. Figuring out how to make the internal monologue come out clearly to the audience. A lot of the changes we make and stories we tell differently are designed to serves exactly that purpose—showing you what those characters internal monologues from the book are without them just saying it out loud in exposition


What are you finding most challenging about going from book to screen?

Rafe: The hardest thing is the physicality of production. In the first book alone they go to more than 20 villages and cities. To try to do that is physically impossible for the show, so most of the work we [do] in the room is geographical, figuring out how to condense the story and move it through places we can physically create.


Yes or no. Have you had to make any cuts be it a scene or chapter, that has been painful for you?

Rafe: Yes.


How are you handling sword forms and their names?

Rafe: We have a for real sword master on the show who walks into every room and tests out everything as a weapon. He could most definitely kill me with any item in my office.


What’s been your favorite shooting location so far?

Rafe: Slovenia! Spectacular stuff there


What words of hope would you offer a fan afraid that the show will cut out a lot of content?

Rafe: I genuinely think we are cutting less than most people think. When I see people ask questions like “are you cutting Min?” it blows my mind. I don’t know how you do an adaptation without some of these characters. I think it’ll be more of the smaller stories you’ll miss. We can’t have Rand and [Mat] travel to many many inns on their travels across the countryside for instance. It’s just not producible. So that will be more of what you miss, I think, and the books always exist to read for that ?


Any funny behind the scenes stories?

Rafe: I once walked up to Rosamund’s dummy to say hello and then pretended to check its makeup and told everyone they were doing great work


What would you say the CGI to practical ratio is going to be?

Rafe: Trying to do as much in camera as we possibly can!


Will we have to wait till season 2 to see any Aiel? (Other than Rand)

Rafe: Nope. And the one you see will shock you. Haha. Amazon shouldn’t let me be on here when I’ve been cooped up for a week.


How are the horses on set? Is Mandarb spectacular?

Rafe: They are so great. Honestly I love our horses. Mandarb and Aldieb are downright sexy


Is [Mat] fluent in the old tongue yet?

Rafe: We’ve had a couple cast members speak in it already and they NAILED IT


Will the show be understandable for those who didn’t read the books?

Rafe: That’s the idea. If there are little things they don’t get though, luckily google exists


Similar to Thom performing in an old Inn, what other iconic moments filmed stands out to [you]?

Rafe: Rand and Tam walking through the Westwood


Who is your favorite Aes Sedai in the books? And you can’t say Moiraine/Siuan or the Wonder Girls

Rafe: So many rules. I honestly love all of them though (except Galina that bitch) Alanna, Liandrin and Verin are probably my Top 3. And Siuan! There’s too many I love. Sheriam! Pevara!


Since JordanCon was cancelled, can we maybe get an extra treat next month?

Rafe: Sure! What do you want?


I think [Bela] is such an important character, will the same horse play [Bela] through the series

Rafe: We’ve already had to have two Belas. It turns out a horse for riding on film is not the same as a horse for pulling a cart and SHE MUST DO BOTH


If you were an Aes Sedai, what Ajah would you choose?

Rafe: Such a good question. They all have merits but GREEN for the win. If only to hang with @priyankabose20


Has any post-production work begun or does that not start until filming is completed?

Rafe: Nope! We do it simultaneously. Before the corona hit, I was prepping 2 episodes, shooting 2 episodes, in post on 4 episodes and writing Season 2 simultaneously  ?


Can you guys do a big WoT Wed announcement during the hiatus to keep all us fans hyped instead of al [sic]

Rafe: Yeah! It would cheer us all up and we have some fun news


How involved, if involved at all, is [Brandon] Sanderson in the writers room?

Rafe: Brandon is hugely helpful. I talked to him before we started Season Two while he was in Prague to get advice and he reads all the scripts and gives notes. He’s incredibly thoughtful and understands the process of adaptation and what’s required from it. I feel so lucky to have him involved. I would have him do more if I could make him!


Will there be a soundtrack? Who’s the composer?

Rafe: Of course! David Buckley. Plus a few incredible musical guests we’ve already had.


To what extent has Harriet McDougal been involved with the project?

Rafe: She’s a consulting producer so she’s been out to Prague to the sets and reads all the scripts and sends me her notes on them. She and Maria [Simons] are hugely helpful for maintaining the truth of the series and always keep me honest when it comes to things that change too much


Do you read [The Way of Kings] or Mistborn? Please make a tv adaptation for them too

Rafe: Read both. Love both.


Will the show have any connection to that abomination of a pilot that [Red Eagle] put out

Rafe: nope! ?


Are you going to merge Min and Elayne?

Rafe: Hell no


Are Min/Elayne in season 1?



[The Weave Weaves as The Weave Wills]


Will we see the prologue from the Eye of the World on screen in season 1

Rafe: You will hear that phrase


Is Lan going to be as much or an absolute stud in the show as he is in the books?

Rafe: You’ve seen @danielhenney right?


Which WOT book title best describes your self isolation experience?

Rafe: A Memory of Light…


What has been your favorite set so far?

Rafe:  Fal Dara!


RJ created 1000’s of [characters]. Given that did you feel the need to create new characters?

Rafe: Anyone “new” is inspired by characters in the books or a number of characters combined. If we paid to cast all speaking roles in the book we could only afford to have a radio play


Please tell me you’ve cut Narg!!

Rafe: Never!!


First moment you were speechless on set?

Rafe: First time walking into Emond’s Field with my mom


How is the cast and crew weather the pandemic?

Rafe: Our team in Prague did an amazing job of getting everyone out and keeping them safe. And now everyone’s home and we all live on Instagram.


Should Amazon do a better job of engaging fans love of theory & speculation. [Please] embrace us!!

Rafe: I love theory and speculation! What can they do to better engage you? Send suggestions and I’ll forward them along ?


Blink twice if Min is in season 1.

Rafe: ? ?


Do you have a favorite Wise One?

Rafe: [Aviendha]


Now you’ve met them settle the score: who’s better with women? Rand, Mat or Perrin?

Rafe: I think they’d all say it’s the other


Will Loial portray the Ogier species, or will he be humanized for screen?

Rafe: He’s an Ogier!


How are you planning to handle the visualization of the weaves? Any little tidbits?

Rafe: We are trying to stay as true to the books as possible. I’ve been giving a bunch of VFX folks long diatribes about channeling, weaves, threads, earth vs. air, etc and [the] early stuff has started coming in. It looks FUCKING AWESOME. I screamed when Rosamund started channeling


Will Jeff Probst be one of the Aiel? Can you make some calls?

Rafe: If he dies his hair red ?


Can you please make sure you do a great job? Books are so great

Rafe: This is a really good idea


Is any aspect of the show still in development, or has it all stalled because of the virus?

Rafe: A lot can be done virtually! I’m still doing VFX, editing and the Season Two Virtual Writers Room! And I can do it all in pajamas


Who is your favorite Forsaken??

Rafe: Ahhh. I love the ladies. Greandal, Lanfear, Modhedien. And Ishamael holds a special place in my heart the more time I spend with him


So far, what is your favorite prop in the show?

Rafe: Great Serpent Ring. We all want one.


How has it been to work with your incredibly talented cast? Also… dinner’s ready

Rafe: Okay I have to go eat now. I think I did this right. Next time I’ll use different colors. I don’t know why it was pink and orange the whole time.


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Regarding the prologue, what does he mean by "You will hear that phrase?"

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So far everything looks great for the TV adaptation.


I want to share my thoughts specifically on A Memory Of Light, the last book in the series. I think this book and A Crown of Swords will be the tricky TV adaptations because there is some suspense and mysteries in these two books.


First off I love this series and have read it numerous times including the world of robert jordans the wheel of time, the companion, new spring: the novel, and the two short stories: river of souls, and the fire within the ways.


I loved the gathering storm and towers of midnight, and I enjoyed a memory of light, though I thought AMOL was the weakest book by BS.


First off, I think BS was under tremendous pressure from Tom Dougherty to hurry up and finish the book. I went on to BS website before the book came out BS said something like "It will come out when it is finished. You can stop rushing me". I remember there was a scene in towers of midnight which Tom Dougherty wanted BS to cut, and BS replied, that is the way RJ wanted it and I am not changing it. Thats why I think a lot of the pressure came from Tom Dougherty.


I have no problems with heroes and some of our favorite characters in the series getting killed. The story ties up Rands struggle with the Dark One and I am cool with that. But there is just two other things that disappointed me about this book. 


1. There is no glossary in this book. Glossaries are in books 1-13, but is left out of book 14. Granted maybe some people don't read the glossaries, though I enjoy them. I was very upset when I found out there was not one in this book.


2. Note: some spoilers here. If you have not read the book, you might want to skip this part.










Lastly, the ending concerning Rand. I am not 100% sure on this, but it seems like after he reseals the dark ones prison, apparently he is burned out from saidin and can no longer channel. Again I dont know if thats correct but it seems to be the case. It just seems messed up when all his other injuries or healed and at the end he is burned out from channeling the male half of the source. And also the ending was abrupt and there could have been a little more world rebuilding.







Don't mean to sound like a critic but I just needed to put my thoughts on this book out there. All in all I think BS did a great job with the series, and I'm sure the last books would have been different if RJ had finished the series.


Looking forward to the TV adaptation, hoping people stay healthy and hoping everyone has a happy Easter in advance.







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On 3/24/2020 at 2:47 AM, ashaman73 said:

1. There is no glossary in this book. Glossaries are in books 1-13, but is left out of book 14. Granted maybe some people don't read the glossaries, though I enjoy them. I was very upset when I found out there was not one in this book.


2. Note: some spoilers here. If you have not read the book, you might want to skip this part


With regard to the glossary, I think the thinking was that having the "very end of the Wheel of Time" followed by the glossary would feel a bit anticlimactic, and they knew the super-glossary was coming out in the form of the companion so they felt able to skip it in the final book.

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Total Matt fan... favorite chapter is "The Tower of Ghenjei"

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I think he might just mean the beginning phrase with the whole "an era, called the third era by some..." thing rather than Lews Therin crazy scene. Hopefully Rafe just misunderstood the question.

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