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Willkommen, various visitors of Dragonmount! Welcome to week 3 of Dragonmount's new theory blog, which I happen to have the privilege to write. I hope everyone brought their pipe, monocle, and smoking jacket so you'll be prepared to contemplate and philosophize about what we cover today! Due to the length of today's dissertation, it wouldn't be a bad idea to get a pillow to get as comfortable as you can. Once again, before we begin, let's go ahead and get out our little disclaimer:

 

WARNING!!! Spoiler Alert!!! WARNING!!!

This blog is based on theories that will include facts and material from the latest books in the series, so if you have not read through Towers of Midnight, continue reading at your own risk! Any views and opinions expressed in "It Works in Theory" are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the views of Dragonmount, any of the staff or members of Dragonmount, or of any sites affiliated with Dragonmount, Brandon Sanderson, any of Team Jordan, Herid Fel, anyone of the Fourth Age, or anyone with more than half a brain, for that matter.

 

This week I'll be continuing the ramifications of the theory I presented last week (Hand of Onyx) in which I theorized that there was a "Dark Callandor" which would counter the power of Callandor, and also possibly facilitate the transfer of souls between Rand and Moridin (click here for Body Swap Theory). The main focus of some of the effects that this theory will have will center on the phrase "Twice dawns the day...", which we get from prophecy. So, without further ado, let us begin!

 

Let's go ahead and get some of the preliminary quotes out of the way concerning this phrase and others that might relate to it:

 

The Great Hunt

Chapter 26, "Discord"

 

"Twice dawns the day when his blood is shed.

Once for mourning, once for birth.

Red on black, the Dragon's blood stains the rock of Shayol Ghul.

In the Pit of Doom shall his blood free men from the Shadow."

 

The Great Hunt

Chapter 8, "The Dragon Reborn"

 

"An anchor is not demeaned by being used to hold a boat," the Amyrlin said. "You were made for a purpose, Rand al'Thor. 'When the winds of Tarmon Gai'don scour the earth, he will face the Shadow and bring forth Light again in the world.' The Prophecies must be fulfilled, or the Dark One will break free and remake the world in his image."

 

and yet another one from The Great Hunt, out of the Prophecies of the Dragon:

 

The Great Hunt

Chapter 5, "The Shadow in Shienar"

 

"'For he shall come like the breaking dawn, and shatter the world again with his coming, and make it anew.'"

 

There's actually some really good ideas out there for possible ways the twice-dawning day can come true. One of my favorites is the idea of an eclipse happening. This would be somewhat out of left field (in a good way) and would tie in fairly well with a lot of prophecies. The only problem I really see with it is it's harder to directly associate Rand with the eclipse ending. Why does the Dark One need to do an eclipse when he can shut the sun out with cloud cover every day? Another theory I've heard mentioned is that the volcano on Dragonmount, the mountain created by Lews Therin Telamon that is this site's namesake, will erupt. I'm less a fan of this one because even a massive eruption from Dragonmount wouldn't quite be enough to compare to the brightness of a second dawn. In addition, how would the "once for mourning, once for birth" line fit in there?

 

I'm going in a slightly different direction with my theory. I believe too many instances exist involving a link between Rand and dawn to dismiss. There's also another connection made in the books between something else and bright sunlight or dawn: objects of Power that are drawing on massive amounts of saidin or saidar.

 

The Shadow Rising

Chapter 10, "The Stone Stands"

 

Rand pulled at saidin. Through Callandor. The Sword That Is Not a Sword blazed in his hands, as if he held noonday. The Power filled him, hammering down like solid thunder....

 

 

Callandor flared brighter and brighter, too brilliant to look at; he closed his eyes, and the light seemed to burn through his eyelids...

 

 

The lightnings faded and died with the last Shadowspawn; the spinning mass imploded with a loud clap of inrushing air. But Callandor still shone like the sun; he shook with the Power.

 

This brilliant light is seen by non-channelers as well, as we find from the two random passersby who venture near the male and female Choedan Kal in the taint cleansing scene in Winter's Heart:

 

Winter's Heart

Chapter 35, "With The Choedan Kal"

 

...Suddenly he realized that the day seemed very bright. Almost like summer noon instead of a winter morning. Strangest of all, the glow seemed to be coming from the huge pit beside the road where workman from the city had been digging away until the previous year. There was supposed to be a monstrous statue down there, but he had never been interested enough to actually look for himself.

 

Now, almost against his will, he reined in his stout mare and climbed down into the snow to trudge to the brink of the pit. It was a hundred paces deep and ten times as far across, and he had to put his hands in front of his face against the blinding glare that came from the bottom. Squinting through his fingers, he could make out a glowing ball, like a second sun...

 

...Suddenly the one unplowed hill caught her eye. A great stone hand stuck out of the ground clasping a sphere as large as a house. And that sphere was shining like a glorious summer sun.

 

Now we know the Last Battle has begun. The Shadow reaches across the Pattern, and the Dark One's influence upon the world grows. It will grow even more when Rand breaks the seals. As it is, the Dark One has been able to make things, well, pretty dark for a while, both literally and figuratively. The skies of Randland have been cast over with cloud cover the past few months, only parting around Rand after his "Veins of Gold" epiphany. I think it's safe to say that he can make things even darker in Randland, even without an eclipse. I think a "tempest" of a dark thundercloud will explode above Shayol Ghul and blanket the skies with an even more impenetrable darkness. Under such conditions, the normal dawn isn't even noticed at all because the sky is so dark.

 

And yet, as Rand confronts Moridin, each wielding their sword sa'angreal, the amount of Power being channeled will become a beacon in the sky, a radiant sun on the horizon (more than likely the confrontation will happen at Shayol Ghul, which is far enough from any civilizations that it would appear on the horizon for almost everyone). Remember, Callandor blocks balefire, as we see in the fight at the end of The Dragon Reborn between Rand and Ba'alzamon. It is more than likely that the Dark Callandor will have the same property, so this won't be a quick balefire fight to the dea- erm, oblivion. In fact, this property of Callandor might even have something to do with the Body Swap.

 

So, BAM! The body swap happens, and Rand gets put in Moridin's body, while Moridin is put in Rand's. The circle of Alivia and Nyneave will now be controlling Moridin; however, in a big blow to the Light, Rand becomes controlled by the circle of Cyndane and Moghedien. Remember that first verse in the dark Prophecy we saw written on the wall of the Fal Dara prison cell after Padan Fain's escape?

 

The Great Hunt

Chapter 7, "Blood Calls Blood"

 

Daughter of the Night, she walks again.

The ancient war, she yet fights.

Her new lover she seeks, who shall serve her and die, yet serve still.

Who shall stand against her coming?

 

The "Daughter of the Night" is obviously Lanfear, who has been transmigrated into Cyndane. We never really saw her make Rand, her "new" lover, serve her up to this point, even though she was manipulating him for a time when she was donning her alter ego, Selene. There's also other parts of prophecy that suggest he will be controlled:

 

The Dragon Reborn

Chapter 6, "The Hunt Begins"

 

"What does it mean that he 'shall slay his people with the sword of peace, and destroy them with the leaf'? What does it mean that he 'shall bind the nine moons to serve him'? Yet these are given equal weight with Callandor in the Cycle. There are others. What 'wounds of madness and cutting of hope' has he healed? What chains has he broken, and who put into chains?"

 

The first reference has to with his destruction of the Aiel, and the second has to do with making the Seanchan submit to him. The "wound of madness" is most likely the taint on saidin, and I would speculate that the cutting of hope that he healed has to do with the internal struggle he was having up until "Veins of Gold". The chains he has broken could have to do with the bonds of all men he breaks with his coming, but I'm crossing my fingers that it means he gets the Seanchan to free all damane. That last part could be foreshadowing the chains that Rand will be put in because of the transfer. So, now we see the ultimate reason why there is always so much devastation linked with the coming of the Dragon Reborn. Yes, he is the world's savior, but for a time, he will be the ultimate weapon of destruction. He will truly break the world with his loss of control to the Shadow. There's many things I can see happening in this scenario, and almost none of them are good. One of the awful atrocities I think he definitely will commit will be confronting his own gathering of Aiel and unleashing massive destruction on his own people. I suspect Rand might even kill Lan in this mode; the irony of Lan surviving a suicide mission to the Blight just to be killed defending Nyneave from Dark Rand 2.0 would be too much to pass on. Nyneave's grief was very important in a viewing Min had of Nyneave; it might be the thing which finally lets her truly let her anger go. If she's able to forgive Rand for killing her love (this would be after Rand is resurrected again, of course, so then there's no need for her to hold up that defense mechanism wall of anger ever again).

 

You probably noticed I mentioned Rand's resurrection even though I hadn't covered his death yet. Don't worry, I'm getting there. This muddled spiderweb of a blog post has a purpose, and it should all come together perfectly in the end, I hope think.

 

We already know that Alivia is guaranteed to be one of the people that will "help Rand die". One of the others is almost certainly going to be Moiraine in my opinion, simply because we've had an indication from Moiraine starting all the way back in the first book, The Eye Of The World, that if she felt it was in the Light's best interests to take Rand out, she wouldn't hesitate. I strongly suspect that the last person in the circle to take out Dark Rand 2.0 will be Narishma, because he seems to have his own connection to Callandor after drawing it out of the Heart of the Stone. His dark complexion also makes him a perfect candidate for satisfying Egwene's dream of a dark young man wielding a very shiny object (A Crown of Swords).

 

It is at some point during this tirade of terror when Rand sees himself either killing or about to kill Aviendha that he suddenly has "a memory of light" and wrests control back from Cyndane, giving Alivia and friends time to kill him. I believe he will end up dying in the Pit of Doom, his blood spilling on the rocks of Shayol Ghul to satisfy prophecy. Now we come to why this dawn is the one for mourning. The Light just saw their Champion turned against them, pave a wide swath of destruction through their forces, and die before the Last Battle was done. Many would be devastated, others would rejoice that Dark Rand 2.0 is dead, or that the Dragon is dead. Overall, though, things would look very bleak indeed.

 

I suggest that if you haven't read Terez's writeup on "Blood on the Rocks" and all the mystery surrounding Rand's death and possible resurrection, do it now. It states very clearly how easy and practical it would be for Nyneave to "rip" Rand out of Tel'aran'rhiod, just like Birgitte was. She would most likely need some help from Perrin, Egwene, and others in fending off Slayer and other Shadowspawn, and possibly Rand's help in fighting off the Dark One himself reaching for Rand's soul. Rand would also need his three ladies waiting in the real world to bond him immediately to keep him from dying when he is ripped out of Tel'aran'rhiod. Once resurrected, he turns things back to how they should be very quickly, brings Sunlight to Shayol Ghul through pure willpower, and seals the Dark One away for another turning of the Wheel. This second dawning would represent birth, in that Rand has a whole new life, a new opportunity to find love without the world resting on his shoulders, and the birth of a new age.

 

It's possible that most Randlanders would perceive the two dawns as being the normal sunrise, and the brilliant explosion of light coming from Rand and Moridin's fight, but I feel in the philosophical and literary artistic sense that it is more fitting that the second dawn be the rebirth of Rand.

 

With that, ladies and germs, my mind is about to collapse so I must put a stake in this undying vampire of a blog's heart, and bid you adieu.




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I strongly suspect that the last person in the circle to take out Dark Rand 2.0 will be Narishma, because he seems to have his own connection to Callandor after drawing it out of the Heart of the Stone. His dark complexion also makes him a perfect candidate for satisfying Egwene's dream of a dark young man wielding a very shiny object (A Crown of Swords).

 

That dream of Egwene's is very interesting and, as per usual, very cryptic:

A man lay dying in a narrow bed, and it was important he not die, yet outside a funeral pyre was being built, and voices raised songs of joy and sadness. A dark young man held an object in his hand that shone so brightly that she couldn’t see what it was.

 

But back to Narishma. The prophecy Rand quotes in TSR (I think) implies that he will probably have a BIG part to play in all this:

Into the heart he thrusts his sword,

into the heart to hold their hearts.

Who draws it out shall follow after,

what hand can grasp that fearful blade?

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One of my favorites is the idea of an eclipse happening. This would be somewhat out of left field (in a good way) and would tie in fairly well with a lot of prophecies. The only problem I really see with it is it's harder to directly associate Rand with the eclipse ending. Why does the Dark One need to do an eclipse when he can shut the sun out with cloud cover every day

 

What about the fact that Rand is now followed around by sunlight?

 

"Gather your Apples quickly. My presence will hold him off for a time , i think, and whatever you take now should be safe from his touch." TOM, Apples First

 

At first I didn't think too much about it, but then i thought, what if it isn't just Rand's Presence, what if it is also the sunlight which is holding the Dark One at bay. I been wondering why the Dark One had blanketed the sky in clouds, maybe to make people miserable. But what if the name DARK ONE, is more than just a metaphor? What if he becomes stronger in the absence of light, not just metaphorically, but actual light too.

 

Since the DO has covered the sky in clouds, the affect he has had on the world has increased. I will admit that this could just be due to Tarmon Gaidon looming closer, but what if it is from the lack on ambient light?

 

"That Light....That terrible light." Ituralde glanced at Bashere,

"I cannot watch it," Torkumen muttered. "I cannot! Great Lord, where is your protection?......."I'm not sure he was talking about the battle, Voegler," Bashere said. TOM, A Storm of Light

 

If Torkumen couldn't see the Battle, what light was he talking about?

 

I think at the last battle, the DO will have to eclipse the sun to nullify Rand's sunlight, to empower himself and his forces.

 

Just wanted to add my 2 cents.

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going back to what you said about both Callandor's being balefire-proof, and going along with the bodyswap thing- when Morridin & Rand's balefire touched and gave them whatever it is where they can see into each other randomly- could that have something to do with it? I may have muddled the facts up on that.

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Sorry all, no soul swap, no evil Rand 2.0. None of these theories follows Jordan's writting style.

 

When all seems lost, thing will go wrong, Rand will realize that he has to die to kill Moridin, thus they will help him die.

 

The day that dawns twice will be literal. Time will have been destroyed, or close to, and Rand's sacrifice will save mankind, the day will dawn a second time giving them victory.

 

"I WILL TAKE NO PART. ONLY THE CHOSEN ONE CAN DO WHAT MUST BE DONE, IF HE WILL." Eye of the World, Against the Shadow

 

What must be done? Sacrifice,ppl, sacrifice.

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Couldn't agree more!!!

Absolutely correct about RJ's writing style, and the day dawning twice in a literal sense... also couldn't agree more. The second dawn will signify a new beginning. I go with the theory that Rand will succeed in his plan to actually kill the DO, not just seal him back up. Therefore the second dawn will be heralding a new, unprecedented, Age.

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I've never seen anyone make the connection (or more importantly refute; maybe because it seems too obvious) that "the dragon's blood stains the rock of Shayol Ghul" being the seanchan. They are the "Blood of the Dragon" Just wondering why that is out by turn of hand. Also, I seem to remember that RJ said he wrote the first and last scenes first. Given the cyclical nature of WOT, could we not see Rand killing Elayne (Ileyna) while Damodred (Morridan) gloats?

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Thanks for sharing this theory. I have felt for a long time that Mordin is the anti-dragon. In the cycles where the dragon serves the shadow he would be the champion of the light. I also believe that Mordin is the only person, chosen or otherwise, who really understands the true implications of what will happen if the dark one is freed. If thw wheel of time is broken so will all reality be broken with it. Only a totally insane person would willingly go along with that plan.

 

At the last battle Fain will also be there... A new evil that is growing as powerful, if not more powerful than the dark one. What if the dark one is actually destroyed by Rand and Mordin and in his place Fain is sealed away as the new dark One?

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Grrr I was looking for this quote online for 15 minutes before I gave up, I think it was Teddy Roosevelt who said something along the lines of "Stand for what you believe in with every fiber of your being and defend your views with all your strength, and be willing to change your mind just as quickly the next day". When I present a theory on this blog, I will always view it as a potential truth or outcome in the series, I'll never put up a theory that at least part of me doesn't believe in. That being said, I might and probably will at times post a theory the next week which is completely contradictory of the one I presented a week before. I'ts not my desire to have as many people agree with me as I can, the main thing I want is to stimulate thought and debate over the intricacies of the incredible series that is the Wheel of Time, so often the theory that I choose to go with won't always be the strongest one or most popular one, but one of the more provocative ones.

 

I see what some of you are saying about Robert Jordan's writing style not going along with the body swap thing, I think a fair amount of people, even those who think the Body Swap will happen, don't like the theory because of this idea. However as Luckers points out in his post about the theory, there is a precedent for soul/body manipulation throughout the series, and the swap or merge is even hinted at in the very first book. It just doesn't feel like we're done with Dark Rand yet, the Forsaken and all of the forces of Shadow have always had this strange confidence that the Dark One would gain control of Rand, and it would be high art if we found out that this could still happen even after the huge moment in Veins of Gold, at the end of The Gathering Storm.

 

Agrajag, great points about the whole sunlight following Rand thing, and about The Dark One being more than a metaphor. I can see how an eclipse could happen, but maybe it's not the only way Shai'tan can counter Rand's sunlight. Jnlehew, that's exactly what caused the link between Rand and Moridin, or at least thats what The Rand/Moridin Link theory lines out. Whether or not Rand dies is a topic of much consternation, I encourage anyone who has any thoughts on this subject to visit the forums to talk about it, specifically this thread.

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This has certainly given me food for thought. I do love the idea of a dark callandor. I can picture the epic showdown - Rand v.s. Morridin. A sword of shining light meeting a sword of pure darkness with huge amounts of the OP and TP laying waste to the continent as they duel. An epic showdown for an epic series.

 

Not entirely won over on the body-swap theory. It might just be because I'm not a fan of the idea (though I do see the reasoning behind it) but in any event, it's clear their connection is going to play an important role in the last battle.

 

As for the day dawning twice; I've never been entirely sure what to make of that passage. I've read ever so many theories and each have a ring of credibility. I think we'll have to wait and see on that one.

 

The dark Rand idea is very interesting. Ever since the circle of 13 channelers+myrddraal trick was mentioned, I've longed to read a scene where it was put into action. Though it wasn't until ToM that we actually (knowingly) saw evidence of it being used. Wouldn't it be interesting if this trick were used on Rand himself? Though I'm not entirely sure if that could happen now he has access to the true power? Another point for debate perhaps.

 

Another interesting read Despothera. Keep them coming! :-)

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I don't think there is any chance of there being a "dark callandor" - there is no evidence Moridin would be channeling the one power, and we've seen no indication channelers of the true power need any augmenting tools to channel more of it (since it's granted by the dark one).

 

One thing though: Moridin/Isha'mael has been pretty much non-stop alive for countless turns of the wheel. He's the Dark One's champion as far as we know. We have yet to truly see him in action channeling - just that he's a master manipulator and quite adept. If there was truly a confrontation involving a direct power struggle, I imagine Moridin would be able to operate on the scale Rand just showed in his "storm of light".

 

In other words: I think Moridin could wipe out 100,000+ army of the light - by himself. I just doubt we'll ever see him in direct-mass combat.

 

...

 

The "Dragon's blood on the rocks of Shayol Ghul" is one of the biggest herrings in the series.

 

Let's see, we've got:

 

Rand's blood

- In death

- In his wounds breaking open

- In simply the fact that Rand gets bloodied there

Aiel Blood

Elayne's child birth taking place there

Many other possible stretches...

 

...

 

I think Rand will be reborn as you've said, whether through T'A'R or some other mechanism. He is the "Lord of the Morning", "Lord of the Dawn", "He who comes with the Dawn", and many other connections.

 

He's definitely making it the day of 2 dawns :)

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treejoe it says in ToM when rand some of his followers go to meet some kings and queens of the borderlands,that they met in a stedding where the OP could not be used.the kings and queens slapped him according to one of there prophecies to see his mental state.(crazy kill him,sane join him).cadsuane was there with an angreal that stored power,but it seems they would of lost to the kings and queens.rand wasn't worried because he was holding on to the true source.not sure but i think he has used it before.and maybe i remember something about rand having the specks in his eyes like morridin but not as often.if this is a power granted by the darkone then why is rand able to use it.

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One would assume that the DO granted it to Rand with the intention of starting him on a path to the Shadow. It is stated that the TP is more addictive than the OP. Rand's mental state at time made him vulnerable and the DO would have seen an opportunity there.

 

Rand has used the True Power before, he used it to break free from Semhirage's domination band, and to kill her and Elza.

 

When Rand met with the Borderland rulers, I'm pretty sure that he was NOT holding the TP. Remember this was AFTER Veins of Gold, therefore he was calm and relaxed, not on edge like he was during the first attempted meeting.

 

Also after Veins of Gold, I don't think that Rand would try and channel the TP (he wouldn't see it as worth the risk,) or that the Dark One would even grant him permission in the first place, now that he's stable, merged with LTT and in the right state of mind to fight for the Light.

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"to test him," tenobia said."or so we decided,once paitar told us of the prophecy." "you dont know how close you came to doom,"Rand said softly."if i had come to you but a short time earlier,i'd have returned those slaps with balefire." "inside the guardian?"tenobia sniffed disdainfully. "the guardian blocks the one power,"rand whispered."the one power only" what does he mean by that? cadsuane thought,frowning. what does that mean. does rand think he can still use the tp? you would think lews therin would tell him he can't. is the true power the same as the true source ?

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'The dividing force of the universe, which turns the Wheel of Time. It is divided into a male half (saidin) and a female half (saidar), which work at the same time with and against each other. Only a man can draw on saidin, only a woman on saidar. Since the beginning of the Time of Madness, saidin has been tainted by the Dark One's touch.' EotW Glossary

 

The True Power comes directly from the Dark One.

 

And I believe that the Guardian only blocks the One Power. It blocks saidin and saidar seperately, not the Power as a whole, therefore it probably doesn't block the True Power. Also I doubt Rand would have said that if he couldn't still sense the TP.

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Hmm no editing option, that sucks...

 

Sorry the above Gossary entry was defining the True Source.

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I mostly agree with Despothera...

There are just a couple of things I think that need to be included. First is that I don't know if Rand and Moridin switching bodies would actually put Rand in Lanfear's control. He'll be channeling the one power. Couldn't he attack Lanfear with the true source? And if Moridin has an "anti-thesis" of Callandor, then wouldn't Moridin be by himself anyway? I think it more likely that they will switch bodies, and then the shock will cause Moridin to lose control, making him a captive of Alivia and Nyneave. Rand will then continue with whatever it is he's doing, Alivia will take Moridin to a safe location, and Rand will be open to attack from 13 channelers using myrddraal. (You know it's going to happen. It's just been waiting to happen since we first learned about it in book 3.)Rand will fall to the shadow, causing the chaos. The memory of light will be him remembering how he used to feel, and he will ask Alivia to help him commit suicide.

And I totally agree with the idea of pulling Rand out of T'A'R. It makes the Birgitte story-line have a purpose. Finally. But I don't think it will be strictly Nyneave. This is T'A'R. Perrin and Egwene will probably be involved too.

You're all welcome to call me crazy. But it makes sense to me.

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Once resurrected, he turns things back to how they should be very quickly, brings Sunlight to Shayol Ghul through pure willpower, and seals the Dark One away for another turning of the Wheel.

This provoked some thought for me, due to the short written by RJ entitled "Assault on Shayol Ghul" (I thought I read this on this site previously and tried to provide a link, but was unable to find it.)I'm operating on the assumption that RJ didn't release anything that wasn't cannon. In that short, which was presented as a fragment of a historical document from the first or second age, we learn that the reason the seals on the Dark One's prison have weakened is that the schism between the female and male Aes Sedai occurred before the male half of the source was tainted; that, in fact the female Aes Sedai refused to participate with the plan to patch the Bore, but instead favored a more aggressive plan involving the Choedan Kal. As a result of their non-participation, the seals on the Bore were inherently flawed, and thus, have weakened in the Fourth Age. A thread that I haven't observed here is the possibility which I see shaping up from moments in LOC, TGS, and TOM that Rand will put the original plan in place again, and try to win over Egwene to the idea. Perrin's comment near the conclusion of TOM about the need to clear away bad work before you can repair a break seems to allude to an attempt to pursue this course, although Perrin himself wouldn't understand the reason the seals have weakened. Everyone else is mortified by Rand's announcement that he will destroy the remaining seals, but Perrin seems to understand the need.

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I had assumed Rand gained the use of TP through the linkage he has with Moridin. As Moridin is granted use of the true power, and if he and Rand are "One" then that would in turn allow Rand to have access as well. Or so I had rationed. Thus Rand would actually had not been granted use from the DO but had gained the ability only due to his odd connection with Moridin.

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