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Eldrick4221 · January 19, 2017

Soooooo.....

Pg23 reconscructed via ISO

Apologies in advance if this also breaks the page...

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Posted by Hallia on Yesterday, 04:24 PM in DM Mafia Games

Oh yay, votes. I can't log on at all on my new job, and I just got home. Reading up.

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Posted by Wildfire Sedai on Yesterday, 04:24 PM in DM Mafia Games

Lenlo, on 18 Jan 2017 - 4:13 PM, said:

But see AJ, one of my problems is with what she theorized. W/W or W/V were her only immediate thoughts and even if that's just stream of conciousness, it's not a towny one imo.

That's in regards to our wifi talk btw

Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe SOME people start their way as wolfie to me and have to work their way to townliness??? no names given. and no its not just darthe and aj.

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Posted by Wildfire Sedai on Yesterday, 04:28 PM in DM Mafia Games

Wildfire Sedai, on 18 Jan 2017 - 4:24 PM, said:

Lenlo, on 18 Jan 2017 - 4:13 PM, said:

But see AJ, one of my problems is with what she theorized. W/W or W/V were her only immediate thoughts and even if that's just stream of conciousness, it's not a towny one imo.

That's in regards to our wifi talk btw

Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe SOME people start their way as wolfie to me and have to work their way to townliness??? no names given. and no its not just darthe and aj.

and by w/w I meant darthe/aj for your information....also the same with w/v just in case you were thinking something else. I just thought of that now as I reread it.

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Posted by Eldrick4221 on Yesterday, 04:32 PM in DM Mafia Games

Andrej, on 18 Jan 2017 - 4:01 PM, said:

Wifi and Eldrick I'd like to know where you two are at with the roster.

Eldrick4221, on 18 Jan 2017 - 06:54 AM, said:

I dont like that Wiffy was fence sitting early either. I'm not sold that she's scum because of it, but I got my eye on her.

I don't like that Hally and I aren't seeing eye to eye. We usually do when we are both town so that's a thing.

Trying to get over my early suspicion of Darthe and MrsClov. They were both based on early and weak reasons, and I would like something more substantial for a scum read.

I still think there was more to Darthe's post than meets the eye. He had yet to change my mind.

It bugs me that MrsClov thought my early post about the setup was rolefishing, and Darthe's post wasn't. It seems noone shares my insight on that, so I guess I should drop it.

I don't have much to say about anyone else yet.

Unvote

There's probably nothing to AJ voting Darthe instead of Nolder.

Hasn't changed. Most likely voting within that list.

Posted by Wildfire Sedai on Yesterday, 06:46 PM in DM Mafia Games

bopolis, on 18 Jan 2017 - 5:59 PM, said:

Wildfire Sedai, on 18 Jan 2017 - 1:33 PM, said:

Lenlo, on 18 Jan 2017 - 08:57 AM, said:

I have been town...lemme see...this is my 14th game and I only been scum 3 times so yeah 11/14 games.....[snip]

question:

you have 13 games listed in your signature and two of them are mafia games.

So if this is your 14th game, is this also your third scum game?

I think bopolis is taking a simple mix up of thought and blowing it all out of proportion. For this extreme blow up I am going to create a special location just for bopolis for now others could end up there in the near future. in my reads list:

Wildfire - TOWN QUEENIE

POSSIBLE TOWN

andrej he got erased during my cut and paste...now putting him back in.

Verbal

Dice

MrsClov

NULL

Niniel

Eldrick

Nolder

Lenlo

Ironeyes

NULL/SLIGHTLY SCUM

Bopolis: .

POSSIBLE SCUM

Darthe

. Hallia

THEY ARE NOT IN ANY SPECIAL ORDER UNDER HEADINGS

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Posted by MrsClov on Yesterday, 05:41 PM in DM Mafia Games

Wildfire Sedai, on 18 Jan 2017 - 5:37 PM, said:

Wildfire - TOWN QUEENIE

POSSIBLE TOWN

Bopolis: .

Verbal

Dice

MrsClov

NULL

Niniel

Eldrick

Nolder

Lenlo

Ironeyes

POSSIBLE SCUM

Darthe

. Hallia

THEY ARE NOT IN ANY SPECIAL ORDER UNDER HEADINGS

Where does AJ fall on Your list?

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Posted by bopolis on Yesterday, 05:47 PM in DM Mafia Games

wifi,

why do you think hallia is a wolf, because up until that list I don't thnk you ever mentioned her except for quoting one of her posts asking 'what it means'?

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Posted by Darthe on 17 January 2017 - 05:48 PM in DM Mafia Games

Nolder, on 17 Jan 2017 - 5:22 PM, said:

Lenlo, on 17 Jan 2017 - 1:31 PM, said:

Nolder votes Darthe D1 exactly 100% of the tim, regardless of his alignment imo.

That is a lie.

Would anyone like to challenge Nol to show a game where he didn't vote me D1?

After, quote this post for the babyrage

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Posted by Darthe on 17 January 2017 - 05:49 PM in DM Mafia Games

Andrej, on 17 Jan 2017 - 3:00 PM, said:

Shad is my alt so don't worry

"Avatar scummy af imo"

-Zander, probably

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Posted by Darthe on 17 January 2017 - 05:50 PM in DM Mafia Games

Btw dice looks good, but I ussually think he looks bad as town. Def wanna see how he keeps over a little while

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Posted by Darthe on 17 January 2017 - 05:50 PM in DM Mafia Games

Wild spouts so much junk that im at a loss how to talk to her.

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Posted by Darthe on 17 January 2017 - 05:51 PM in DM Mafia Games

She also has never town read me in a game, regardless of alignment.

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Posted by Darthe on Yesterday, 05:57 PM in DM Mafia Games

I'm a bit busy today folks, but am gonna Vote: nolder . I'll be back! Still a fan of lynching wild.

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Posted by Andrej on Yesterday, 05:57 PM in DM Mafia Games

Happy birthday Darthe

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Posted by bopolis on Yesterday, 05:59 PM in DM Mafia Games

Wildfire Sedai, on 18 Jan 2017 - 1:33 PM, said:

Lenlo, on 18 Jan 2017 - 08:57 AM, said:

I have been town...lemme see...this is my 14th game and I only been scum 3 times so yeah 11/14 games.....[snip]

question:

you have 13 games listed in your signature and two of them are mafia games.

So if this is your 14th game, is this also your third scum game?

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Posted by bopolis on Yesterday, 06:01 PM in DM Mafia Games

Wildfire Sedai, on 18 Jan 2017 - 1:33 PM, said:

Lenlo, on 18 Jan 2017 - 08:57 AM, said:

Good morning.

For wifi, I just want an example. A quote or something so I can see where your coming from.

I don't have the time atm to post any long, detailed posts (I am in between lectures atm), so you can expect one of those later today for my current stance on everyone

Okay so answering your question: I am going to ISO myself.

It was BS until darthe posted he was watcher.

then I said: I thought it was a typical scum darthe move, as of late. well as long as I have known him. He claims a PR of some sort: whether it be post restriction or power role and then tries to stir the waters up. Though to be honest I think he did do it in one game as town. However I am NOT SURE.

IT was a long time ago.

So, You all wanted an explanation for the above and I gave the below. However, I believe you would like a more detailed reason as to why I said what I said.

Basically, to be totally and truthfully honest : If darthe keeps making moves like that (and he probably will) I will probably always suss him scum day 1 and he will have to work his way to townliness in my eyes. Just saying. At least until I get better at this game. and by better I mean so that I am not sussed as scum every d1 in every game. I know I should give darthe tbotd as well. However, I have been town...lemme see...this is my 14th game and I only been scum 3 times so yeah 11/14 games. darthe has been scum a lot...actually I just went to shad's mafia database. and Darthe you owe shad a huge mug of beer. I just found out that out of 125 games you have been mafia 23 times other player 7 times. So thats 30/125 which is only 24% where my 3/14 is 21%. So we are very close in % to each other of mafia/game ratio and I thought we were miles apart. Also I feel like I am having deja vu. Though I think it was to AJ that I apologized to cause Darthe I am sorry. I thought that you had been mafia in all but 1 of the games we've played and then some. However, I guess I have been wrong...unless you started your mafia streak when I started playing and/or shad's numbers are off.

I am saying I corrected myself because I wasn't sure what the TOTAL TRUTH was. I just know that:

1. Darthe has claimed a role D1 many times as wolf

2. I remember him as town claiming a role ONCE

3. I thought that saying "null" to something so blatantly out there, even on d1 would be bad...especially in regards to darthe....sorry darthe not a good idea for me because I almost always get in trouble for having too many null reads in past games.

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

a vanillager to try and get the heat off the real watcher....maybe....

wolf more probably to hunt out the real watcher as stated before...

However it is early day one...so it could be joke...but he did say discuss....w/e

Tbqf: I had left out the word "scum" in my first sentence when I wrote this originally. Then I put in null. but then I remembered that he did it mostly as scum. So, I settled on scum. Then, I remembered that he did it as town. once, I think, that I knew of: Of course I don't play in every game he does and I don't keep up with all the games either.

You see. This is a game of lying. I am not a good liar. If I lie, I usually end up trying to tell the truth some how. However, I love playing this game. So my wolfyness: was me trying to tell the truth. .

Then when AJ said there could be more than two conclusions, I thought about it more and listed the ones I thought about. I just got recaught up and read dricky's post and it does make sense to an extent. However, darthe could do it as scum just because it would make him look town.

Andrej said

Wifi are you saying you corrected yourself because you knew it was a lie

No I am saying I corrected myself to tell the total truth.

screwed up quoting, here it is again highlighted(took out spoilers from original quote)

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Posted by bopolis on Yesterday, 06:02 PM in DM Mafia Games

Multiball Mafia (Advanced) - Town Vig - Survive TEG - TOWN WON

Beyond the Wall Mafia (Advanced) - Cold Train Mafia - Killed N2 - LOST

Spirited Away Mafia (Basic) - Vanilla Town - killed N4 - MAFIA WON - LOST

Blue Ajah Harry Potter blue-ajah week 2016 gilderoy lockhart and the cult of personality (Basic) - Vanilla Town - Survived TEG - TOWN WON

[Advanced][Rey Mafia]Julius Caesar - the re-run - Vanilla Town - lynched last day - MAFIA WON - LOST

League of Extraordinary Gentleman (Kitchen Sink) - Vanilla Town - Rand Lynched D1 - MAFIA WON - LOST

[basic] Disney Heroes vs. Villains Mafia C9++ - Town Doc - Killed N1 - TOWN WON

[Role Madness] Overwatch Mafia - Town - Ana (Freeze Power) - Killed R3 - MAFIA WON - LOST

Danger in Demon's Cove [experimental] - Vanilla Town 1X Vig - Survive TEG - MAFIA WON - LOST

Grim Frostbitten Scumlust [basic] - Mafia Goon (Sub) - Lynched D4 - MAFIA WON - WON

Tarmon Gaidon [Advanced] - Loial Town Jailor ???? - Survive TEG - TOWN WON

[basic] Pirates of the Caribbean (Curse of the Black Pearl) - Vanilla Town - Lynched D5 - MAFIA WON - LOST

[Advanced] Lost Mafia - Vanilla Town - Lynch D4 - MAFIA WON - LOST

This is from Wifi's Signature, 2 mafia games

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Posted by Andrej on Yesterday, 06:04 PM in DM Mafia Games

lol

who who

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Posted by Lenlo on Yesterday, 06:08 PM in DM Mafia Games

Wildfire Sedai, on 18 Jan 2017 - 4:24 PM, said:

Lenlo, on 18 Jan 2017 - 4:13 PM, said:

But see AJ, one of my problems is with what she theorized. W/W or W/V were her only immediate thoughts and even if that's just stream of conciousness, it's not a towny one imo.

That's in regards to our wifi talk btw

Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe SOME people start their way as wolfie to me and have to work their way to townliness??? no names given. and no its not just darthe and aj.

Wildfire Sedai, on 18 Jan 2017 - 4:28 PM, said:

Wildfire Sedai, on 18 Jan 2017 - 4:24 PM, said:

Lenlo, on 18 Jan 2017 - 4:13 PM, said:

But see AJ, one of my problems is with what she theorized. W/W or W/V were her only immediate thoughts and even if that's just stream of conciousness, it's not a towny one imo.

That's in regards to our wifi talk btw

Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe SOME people start their way as wolfie to me and have to work their way to townliness??? no names given. and no its not just darthe and aj.

and by w/w I meant darthe/aj for your information....also the same with w/v just in case you were thinking something else. I just thought of that now as I reread it.

I knew who you meant when you said W/W and W/V, there is no confusion there.

As for who starts as wolfy and works their way up, if your going to have different standards for different people say that before hand for one. Two, Thats a horrible idea to start different people at different levels of wolfy. Three, that means you just assumed Darthe was a wolf from the get go, meaning all of your posts have the preconception that darthe was a wolf there and also does absolutely nothing to change what it is you actually said in your posts. I dont care if they start as a kumquat on the scale of wolf-town, what matters is what you said and what you said was wolfy, to me. Clearly I am in the minority, but posts like this arnt really helping you with me.

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Posted by Lenlo on Yesterday, 06:08 PM in DM Mafia Games

Andrej, on 18 Jan 2017 - 6:04 PM, said:

lol

who who

Doctor, is that you?

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Posted by Lenlo on Yesterday, 06:10 PM in DM Mafia Games

Just realized I may not have been clear in that wifi response. Some words were weird.

I dont like that different people start at different levels of wolf/towny just by existing. I dont like that shes using that as a defense for what her actual posts said and I am not sure who else she thought I could be meaning when I referenced the W/W and W/V portion.

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Posted by Andrej on Yesterday, 06:15 PM in DM Mafia Games

Lenlo, on 18 Jan 2017 - 6:08 PM, said:

Andrej, on 18 Jan 2017 - 6:04 PM, said:

lolwho who

Doctor, is that you?

Just your friendly neighborhood owl.

I'm amused and intrigued by the latest development

Eldrick4221 · January 19, 2017

@Eldrick did you have thoughts on hallia? If you said them before my apologies between the error on page 23 and my internet being awful today I lost access to my notes. :(

I don't have much. It's weird that we aren't seeing eye to eye. We usually do as town. I don't like her defense of Darthe. It was early and felt unjustified. I don't like that she has been so quiet; that she came in and commented on having votes, and then nothing.

Eldrick4221 · January 19, 2017

She is definitely a candidate for scum for me.

Eldrick4221 · January 19, 2017

I haven't liked Darthe's game much. It's beyond the point of the initial claim thing.

He doesn't seem to be contributing or solving. He voted Nolder (needs to be tallied btw. it was pg23) with no reason, while talking about and wtv wiffy. Feels like possible distancing.

My tip candidates for scum are Darthe, Wiffy and Hally.

Verb, Marsh, and Nini have yet to prove themselves as well. Could easily be scum in there.

Going with [v]Darthe[/v] for today. Willing to consolidate on Hally or wiffy if need be.

Eldrick4221 · January 19, 2017

List of posts from pg23 (by my timestamp)

End of pg22 - 4:13pm

Hally 4:24

Wiffy 4:24

Wiffy 4:28

Eldrick 4:32

Wiffy 5:37

MrsClov 5:41

Bop 5:47

Darthe 5:48

Darthe 5:49

Darthe 5:50

Darthe 5:51

Darthe 5:57

AJ 5:57

Bop 5:59

Bop 6:01

Bop 6:02

AJ 6:04

Lenlo 6:08

Lenlo 6:10

AJ 6:15

Eldrick4221 · January 19, 2017

Start of pg24 6:46pm

Eldrick4221 · January 19, 2017

I'm around, but I'm gonna cool down and watch stuff. That data collection took a lot out of me.

bopolis · January 19, 2017

I'm having concerns about darthe but mostly because he hasn't been around in a couple days and he felt more present in the first day of the lost game than he did here.

I'm concerned about nolder basing all of his reads around darthe.

I'm pretty sure we won't be hearing from hallia before EoD since the end of the day is at 5pm and she works during the day without internet access.

I'd also like to hear more from ironeyes/verbal32/niniel.

AORN i think the lynch should be inside hallia/wifi.

#whereimat

MrsClov · January 19, 2017

I haven't liked Darthe's game much. It's beyond the point of the initial claim thing.

He doesn't seem to be contributing or solving. He voted Nolder (needs to be tallied btw. it was pg23) with no reason, while talking about and wtv wiffy. Feels like possible distancing.

My tip candidates for scum are Darthe, Wiffy and Hally.

Verb, Marsh, and Nini have yet to prove themselves as well. Could easily be scum in there.

Going with [v]Darthe[/v] for today. Willing to consolidate on Hally or wiffy if need be

Not that I'm complaining by any means, but out of curiosity sake, why the switch from me to Wifi?

Sooh · January 19, 2017

Vote count:

Eldrick (1): Verbal

Darthe (1): Eldrick

Nolder (1): Niniel

Wildfire (1): Lenlo

Hallia (4): Dice, MrsClov, AJ, Nolder

Not voting (5): Darthe, Bopolis, Hallia, Ironeyes, Wildfire,

Eldrick4221 · January 19, 2017

You were never that bad to begin with. I had a problem with you early game. It wasn't for a strong reason. You have improved since.

Wiffy never made it above null for me. The point of her fence sitting at the beginng is a good one. Her posts have been weird even for her.

I'd rather vote within Darthe/Hally though.

Verbal32 · January 19, 2017

wifi,

why do you think hallia is a wolf, because up until that list I don't thnk you ever mentioned her except for quoting one of her posts asking 'what it means'?

This is a pretty good point, actually. I don't recall seeing an answer as I caught up - did you get one?

So are you thinking it's a scum slip then, Bop?

I know you didn't ask me, but I'm gonna say I think it might be (subconsciously). I've seen it happen many times before, on multiple sites. Usually comes from newer players who don't re-read their posts before clicking the button.

I could switch to Wifi.

bopolis · January 19, 2017

Vote count:

Eldrick (1): Verbal

Darthe (1): Eldrick

Nolder (1): Niniel

Wildfire (1): Lenlo

Hallia (4): Dice, MrsClov, AJ, Nolder

Not voting (5): Darthe, Bopolis, Hallia, Ironeyes, Wildfire,

i have a vote for wifi on the mythical page 23; i think it's accessible now

bopolis · January 19, 2017

verbal,

haven't gotten a response from wifi yet about hallia

MrsClov · January 19, 2017

You were never that bad to begin with. I had a problem with you early game. It wasn't for a strong reason. You have improved since.

Wiffy never made it above null for me. The point of her fence sitting at the beginng is a good one. Her posts have been weird even for her.

I'd rather vote within Darthe/Hally though.

Alrighty, thanks for explaining ^_^

Verbal32 · January 19, 2017

I used my magic on page 23, so we should be good now. ;-)

Verbal32 · January 19, 2017

verbal,

haven't gotten a response from wifi yet about hallia

Ok, thanks. I also don't recall any type of defense from Hallia, seeing as she's the main train with < a day left until DL. Hmm.

Eldrick4221 · January 19, 2017

It's back!

Eldrick4221 · January 19, 2017

You were never that bad to begin with. I had a problem with you early game. It wasn't for a strong reason. You have improved since.

Wiffy never made it above null for me. The point of her fence sitting at the beginng is a good one. Her posts have been weird even for her.

I'd rather vote within Darthe/Hally though.

Alrighty, thanks for explaining ^_^

Of course ^_^

Eldrick4221 · January 19, 2017

verbal,

haven't gotten a response from wifi yet about hallia

Ok, thanks. I also don't recall any type of defense from Hallia, seeing as she's the main train with < a day left until DL. Hmm.

Her last post was a comment about votes on her and that she would respond when she caught up.

That she still hasn't looks really bad, and is partly why she's on my list.

bopolis · January 19, 2017

eldrick,

thoughts about wifi's possible slip?

Sooh · January 19, 2017

Vote count:

Eldrick (1): Verbal

Darthe (1): Eldrick

Nolder (1): Niniel

Wildfire (1): Lenlo

Hallia (4): Dice, MrsClov, AJ, Nolder

Not voting (5): Darthe, Bopolis, Hallia, Ironeyes, Wildfire,

i have a vote for wifi on the mythical page 23; i think it's accessible now

I ask that any votes that might have happened on pg 23 would be re-cast.

Eldrick4221 · January 19, 2017

eldrick,

thoughts about wifi's possible slip?

I think you might be onto something there. I try to use my own reasons for my reads on people, but it does look bad.

Verbal32 · January 19, 2017

[unvote]

Not sure I'm prepared to push anything at Eldrick today. Still suss, but moved below others for now.

bopolis · January 19, 2017

[v]wifi[/v]

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