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[Basic] I <3 the 90's Mafia: Music Edition - TOWN WINS!


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  On 6/11/2016 at 10:02 PM, wish-tree said:

Lenlo, is your case on Sili because of the 'crap reasoning' he's given for you being a wolf?

This entire game his reasoning has been questionable at best. All hes really done is call me wolf, tell me to shut up cause im a wolf, then get onto people for lynching townies, without ever really fighting to defend anyone. There was no real opposition to the Dice lynch even though he was supposedly town telling. Same with Seph. The most active ive seen him this game is when hes attacking me.

 

I dont really think hes a wolf. Just not town. He has more SK equity then wolf equity to me.

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  On 6/11/2016 at 10:03 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Nah. u could at least keep consistent wuth how u describe my actions though. u just asked me to let you convince me essentially. Thats not consistent with ur vote imo.

I asked you to let me convince you? Of what? Show me the quote Sili.

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  On 6/11/2016 at 10:03 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Nah. u could at least keep consistent wuth how u describe my actions though. u just asked me to let you convince me essentially. Thats not consistent with ur vote imo.

 

????

 

lol

 

I'm a bit mad because of the [censored]

 

gahasdfklj'f

 

*headbang*

 

unrelated stuff, sorry

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  On 6/11/2016 at 10:04 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 6/11/2016 at 10:02 PM, wish-tree said:

Lenlo, is your case on Sili because of the 'crap reasoning' he's given for you being a wolf?

This entire game his reasoning has been questionable at best. All hes really done is call me wolf, tell me to shut up cause im a wolf, then get onto people for lynching townies, without ever really fighting to defend anyone. There was no real opposition to the Dice lynch even though he was supposedly town telling. Same with Seph. The most active ive seen him this game is when hes attacking me.

 

I dont really think hes a wolf. Just not town. He has more SK equity then wolf equity to me.

 

 

I noted the underlined part in Hallia too, because I thought it looked super scummy. But she claimed doc... so uhhhh

 

Yes, the red part I've also seen. 

 

for people who know of Sili's play, is this towny for him at all?

Posted
  On 6/11/2016 at 10:07 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

No selfawareness is another lenlo sin.

Give me the quote.

 

And you dont know me.

Posted
  On 6/11/2016 at 10:08 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

My phones out of power.

Give me the quote when your back.

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I can't figure out how to edit these quotes properly so my answers are in blue:
 

  On 6/9/2016 at 8:01 AM, Clovdyx said:

You asked for my thoughts.
 

  On 6/9/2016 at 6:44 AM, BFG said:

This looks pretty bad

1) Liz spends longer talking about Lenlo than she does about Seph yet she hasn't had time to test the Lenlo theory while she's ok with Seph as mafia?

2) She also doesn't really do anything to address Seph prior to the post she makes just before she's away till EOD

3) She actually spends most time talking about Zander whose always a town read afaict of varying strengths.

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-1/?view=findpost&p=3663409 this stands out. If Seph has been her strongest mafia lean since the beginning, why isn't she asking Lilys opinions on him?

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-1/?view=findpost&p=3664132 here she's complaining that wish/Zander/(Darthe) aren't answering her questions, but why aren't there more to Seph? (first question comes after this post)


I think I’ve already responded to all of these questions already except for the last part – I was complaining about Zander/Darthe/Wish because I was in the thread with them in real time, so I could see what their responses are as they were posting.

With Seph I was posting probes and not coming back to the thread until later and if he responded I still don’t know because there are chunks of the thread I still haven’t read. But I based my read on him off of my early suspicions and his responses to other people that I did read.



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1) I've read her ISO three times now, and I don't feel this is the case at all. The only things she said directly TO Lenlo was asking if he thinks Sili is town and that Lenlo's reply to my push on him kind of answers that question. The things she says about Lenlo are that I noticed what she noticed and that she doesn't him, and then she mentions him again in that post you quoted.


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I also have supsicions on Lenlo, Dice and Darthe, but I feel like I haven't had a chance to test out any of those theories because they don't seem to be responding to my probes...or they're not responding when I'm around. Darthe, I will admit (sorry Darthe) is that he seems nicer than I expect him to be. But I actually agree with his thoughts on Seph (with the exception of that ridiculous theory about punctuation that I'm hoping he's joking about)

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If I'm missing something, please, correct me. But that point doesn't seem right. In contrast, she asked me why I was reading Seph as town, asked Zander what his read was, asked you why you were tonwreading him, asks Darthe how Seph being a wolf impacts Darthe's read of you, and asks Sili what Seph's argument was. That's in addition to the ten paragraphs or whatever she wrote about him in that post.

So right off the bat, I feel you're wrong there. Secondly, I don't feel somebody has to bring up their scumreads a certain amount of times for them to be validated. If somebody's mind is already made up, it makes more sense to resolve people they're not sure about. That's not the case here, but my point is that even if that point were true it wouldn't bother me.

3) This is half true. She had considerably more to do with Zander than Seph. Again, that doesn't necessarily bother me. What does bother me to some extent is the part you actually got wrong - Zander wasn't a townread throughout the entire day. I asked her what he had done to get townread originally, and she explained why she was no longer townreading him. I corrected her by explaining I understood why she wasn't reading him as town at that point, but that I didn't understand what gave her that impression originally - and I explained why it came as a surprise.

As far as I can tell, she never even acknowledged the correction.

 


I don’t’ understand what you mean by “correction” here. You didn’t understand, you can’t correct what my impression of my own impression is…

I don’t know if I ever saw a follow up from you, but I know I’ve explained multiple times already and probably most recently to BFG why I originally thought that Zander was town – because he seemed to be genuinely asking questions he wanted to know the answers to rather than questioning for the sake of questioning, which is the impression that I had of him in the two scum games I’d seen him play

 

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2) This is actually probably where I have the biggest issue with her. You're mostly correct here, but there was this.


 

  On 6/8/2016 at 2:20 AM, Lizabeth said:

 

  On 6/8/2016 at 2:13 AM, seph said:

darthe you are horrible at mafia lol.

ps. I already know I am horrible, so glgl ill be back at dl.
I would only want to lynch liz/tina d1


Why are you wanting to lynch me? Because I'm asking questions about you at the moment?

Funny that you're not engaging me directly or answering any of my questions but you want to vote me...

 



This isn't me attempting to refute your point. I want to call attention to the bold, because as far as I can tell...THIS was the only thing she had directed towards him that night.



  On 6/8/2016 at 1:34 AM, Lizabeth said:

 

  On 6/8/2016 at 1:12 AM, seph said:

meh its the truth, plain and simple. I actually have a few mafia games on the spoiler in my sig. though the 9-5 I was town and subed into mafia, and was my 1st game ever. all my wolf games are pretty old.

sili yes i buddied hallia, and I plainly state it in the thread lol, because I thought she was town from the get go and the game is easier with someone you trust.


What made you think she was town that early?

 



Scrolling through the pages from the time she asked to the time she made that point, it looks like she's telling the truth - Seph didn't answer. But that seems like a really obscure thing to get bent out of shape about him not answering, giving that Seph was kind of taking a pounding from about four other people at the time.

And like you implied, it'd kind of a two way street...

 


I was getting frustrated about not being able to keep on top of the thread and not being able to even figure out if people were responding to me or not when I was away. So with Seph finally being in the thread with me at the same time…yes, I may have been impatient.

Posted
  On 6/11/2016 at 10:10 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

I dont need to

Yes you do. Its dependent on your claim. Give me the quote proving what you said, ill vote myself.

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also, you two flinging back -do this

 

-no u

 

-do that

 

 

SO IRRITATING

 

JUST FREAKING GIVE THE QUOTES AND STOP BICKERING LIKE CHILDREN IF YOU REALLY HAVE EACH OTHER AS A SCUM READ

Posted
  On 6/11/2016 at 10:11 PM, wish-tree said:

also, you two flinging back -do this

 

-no u

 

-do that

 

 

SO IRRITATING

 

JUST FREAKING GIVE THE QUOTES AND STOP BICKERING LIKE CHILDREN IF YOU REALLY HAVE EACH OTHER AS A SCUM READ

His case is currently dependent on a quote he wont give. Cause it doesnt exist.

 

Sili. Gimme the quote, ill help you lynch me if it exists.

Posted
  On 6/9/2016 at 8:07 AM, Clovdyx said:

She also didn't follow up after I gave her an honest take on Seph.

 

 
  On 6/8/2016 at 2:22 AM, Clovdyx said:

 

  On 6/8/2016 at 2:21 AM, Lizabeth said:

 

  On 6/8/2016 at 2:18 AM, Clovdyx said:

Even if I thought Seph was probable scumx that would be a terrible argument. The fact I think he is likely town is a really bad look.

What makes you think he's town?

I read the thread.

 

 

Just Clov being Clov.

 

So that's what that feels like.

 

  On 6/8/2016 at 2:23 AM, Lizabeth said:

 

  On 6/8/2016 at 2:22 AM, Clovdyx said:

 

  On 6/8/2016 at 2:21 AM, Lizabeth said:

 

  On 6/8/2016 at 2:18 AM, Clovdyx said:

Even if I thought Seph was probable scumx that would be a terrible argument. The fact I think he is likely town is a really bad look.

What makes you think he's town?

 

I read the thread.

 

All 50 million posts of it?  :dry:

 

 

I don't mind this response, especially when factoring in this interpretation.

 

  On 6/8/2016 at 2:25 AM, Lizabeth said:

 

  On 6/8/2016 at 2:22 AM, Clovdyx said:

 

  On 6/8/2016 at 2:21 AM, Lizabeth said:

 

  On 6/8/2016 at 2:18 AM, Clovdyx said:

Even if I thought Seph was probable scumx that would be a terrible argument. The fact I think he is likely town is a really bad look.

What makes you think he's town?

 

I read the thread.

 

Okay, I need to go to bed. I totally misread what you said XD

 

I thought you told ME to read the thread.

 

"I read the thread" is almost as snarky, but not quite AS irritating :P

 

 

 

 

  On 6/8/2016 at 2:32 AM, Clovdyx said:

 

  On 6/8/2016 at 2:25 AM, Lizabeth said:

 

  On 6/8/2016 at 2:22 AM, Clovdyx said:

 

  On 6/8/2016 at 2:21 AM, Lizabeth said:

 

  On 6/8/2016 at 2:18 AM, Clovdyx said:

Even if I thought Seph was probable scumx that would be a terrible argument. The fact I think he is likely town is a really bad look.

What makes you think he's town?
I read the thread.
Okay, I need to go to bed. I totally misread what you said XD

 

I thought you told ME to read the thread.

 

"I read the thread" is almost as snarky, but not quite AS irritating :P

I'd apologize, but I'm really not that sorry  :tongue:

 

His early posts sounded good to me, with a certain amount of sincerity. The comment he made about trying to get on Alanna and BFG's good sides if he were mafia seems like a really strange thing to say.

 

I thought when he was going back and forth with siki, he wasn't stretching or misrepping anything.

 

His willingness to reevaluate and look at the bigger picture is a very protown. Unless he's mafia eith sili, I don't see why he would argue that silis actions have been scummy and use a very noticeable meta to clear him before anybody else brings it up.

 

 

But I got nothing for this.  If she is genuinely interested in getting other people's opinions on Seph, I'm not sure why she would take the time to response to be deliberately being an ass to her question and NOT provide something to an actual answer - especially considering she was apparently upset that nobody else would answer them.

I never saw your response. By the time I came back the thread was another gajillion pages and I had to pick and choose what I was going to try to read through. That was basically most of my D1 and D2

Posted
  On 6/11/2016 at 10:12 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

I am not arguing wish. Only len.

If your phones out of power go.

 

If its not, stop pussyfooting around and give me the quote.

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