[Basic]: Be Nice Mafia

[Sili Quirrels]

Maybe there are no wolves and the nk was random.

[Thane Vakarian]

someone ate that pie..... they're guilty

[Sili Quirrels]

No see the cake came like that

[Thane Vakarian]

No see the cake came like that

"OH NO! Who could have done it? It has only been you, Fluttershy´s friends, who have been in the room. A few minutes before she arrived you turned off the light, it must have been at that time that someone stole a piece of the wonderful cake."

 

I disagree with your statement. 

[Sili Quirrels]

Im not sure if its right but im going to give u villa pts for the last pozt.

[Sili Quirrels]

-cause i think scum thane wldnt put the effort in

[Thane Vakarian]

i'm only pointing out things that look odd to me, and that was simply not true. 

 

It's quiet at work, so i actually have some time to dedicate to the game.

[Sili Quirrels]

Does bfg enjoy being scum?

[Thane Vakarian]

i have no idea, you'd have to ask her yourself. 

[Sili Quirrels]

On pg 8 i think shes scum more i think. Just way too comfortable

[Thane Vakarian]

being comfortable in game isn't really a scumtell for anybody. It can be faked. 

[Cass]

Sorry, had a phone call, am back. Only up to page 28 with the 'real time'/replying to specific questions for me stuff now lol.

Who's still here? 

 

[Thane Vakarian]

me!

[Thane Vakarian]

i'm hard to get rid off... well, for the coming hour. Then it's time to go home and take care of the household a bit. 

[Cass]

 

 

 

 

 

I dont think i would read me as a wolf if i knew me so i dont see what u see tress.

I might have agreed with you prior to seeing you wolf recently. But since I have? I'm Team-Tina on this. It's early. Just be you.

I think Yates was fielding for responses... like, the pairings were absurd.

Objectively you look very good if I flip scum.

 

 

 

A couple of thoughts here:
1. Let's say for the sake of argument that you are correct about me "fielding for responses." Now I know that you are already aware of it and adjusting responses accordingly. Plus, you haven't actually responded to the connection/accusation other than to acknowledge it and claim the "pairings were absurd." I'd really like it if you could stop being so guarded [like you have something to hide] and just freestyle rap wit me a bit.

2. The pairings aren't absurd to me. Your interaction didn't look like the interaction of two people that don't know each other's alignments. I happen to agree with Cass on one point; the way you treated her vs. the way you treated Clov was very different. Would you please [and thank you in advance] explain the rationale there in a way that makes some sense to me?

3. That "if I flip scum" stuff always pings. Rhetorical question: You don't know if you will flip scum or not? That's why your answer to question #2 will help me decide if we can frolic in the stream of Equestria together or if you need to be sent to the glue factory to be turned into glitter paste.

 

 

Even though I'm trying to consider things without tinfoil on you Sili... The bold. I don't think you've answered this, and it still bugs me... can you explain?

 

 

 

i already answered it. i said something like i wasn't obligated to read everyone the same way.

 

guess i don't understand where the question is coming from. is there a reason i should have read two different posts from two different people the same way?

 

 

 

For context, the original point being referred to wasn't that you should have read two different posts from two different people the 'same way'.

It was a concern that you reacted differently in game to essentially the same event. (The event being somebody suggesting they thought you were/asking ITT if you were scum). And that this seemed inconsistent and potentially more indicative of scum play than something that would come from Town.

 

Original WoT quote-chopped down to the specific point, with spoilers removed:

 

 

- Clov asks straight out if Sili ate the cake. Sili's response (without giving a real reason/proper explanation) is that he gets the impression that Clov is a Wolf, but when I do almost the exact same thing and ask straight out if he's wilfing again, his response is that his confidence in me as Town has increased. It's inconsistent, and it pings. (Also, this is what first makes me wonder if Sili-Clov are W-W creating distance...)

Sili, did you eat the cake?  Be honest.

  

I am not a party killer. But your response is.

  

Yeah, so I might have been to abrupt before... I was on mobile... but clov, I'm getting the impression you're a wolf.

  

 

 

Cass, have you played a lot of scum? could you link me?

None! I'm still (somewhat nervously) awaiting my first rand as scum... For now I'm honestly still quite happy to just keep being Town and keep learning/figuring out how to solve the puzzles!!
TBH though Sili, I find this question slightly odd coming from you, considering that you've played both of the two only 'extended' games I've been in and I mentioned this in the sign up thread when Tina asked if I'd played before. You should already know that I've only been Town...
Even though you say you've got me as Town, my gut's wondering if you're trying to set me up as scum... Yes, it's early and I may already have a habit of always reading you as scum, but still...
I like my gut *g*

You wilfing against me again?

  

tl;dr - all reads are tentative, but some more than others.
 
Also, my confidence in Cass went up with her last post.

  

 

 

Event: Clov asks if you ate the cake / Effectively straight out asks if you're playing scum

Reaction: You point out that you think he's a wolf

 

Event: I ask you if you're wilfing against me again / Effectively straight out ask you if you're playing scum

Reaction: You point out that your 'confidence in me' 'went up'

 

Boil it down to gameplay and it equals: same event, different reaction.

 

I can kind of see your point if you're suggesting you were working on nothing but tone, but strictly gameplay, removing what you profess are 'reads' (presumably based on tone) at the time, it feels like an inconsistency that may be more indicative of 'opportunistic' scum than Town.

 

Inconsistencies based on 'opportunities' help pinpoint wolves IMO, which is why I pointed it out.

 

Make more sense?

[Thane Vakarian]

makes sense to me Cass. 

[Cass]

i'm hard to get rid off... well, for the coming hour. Then it's time to go home and take care of the household a bit. 

 

Tonal reactions to this:       ...      

 

FWIW, This is more how I remember reading your play - easy-going-potential-scum who makes my brain go round in circles wondering if they're clever scum being deliberate or laid-back Town being aloof. For almost the entire game.

 

It doesn't really help me one iota here, but it sounds more like the you I know, from a game where you were Town, so it may be something... 

 

I'm glad you're here 

[Cass]

makes sense to me Cass. 

 

 

Yey!

 

(FWIW, I thought it was clear the first time...  )

[Thane Vakarian]

weekends are crazy nuts with the kids, but, my work should allow me to be around and post more during the week Now that i've put some thoughts out there, and i read the game a few times, i'm also more at ease in the game. It's hunting season 

 

And, FWIW, it's nice to have you in game too (i'd hate to find out you're fooling me as a wolf )

[Thane Vakarian]

 

makes sense to me Cass. 

 

 

Yey!

 

(FWIW, I thought it was clear the first time...  )

 

your posts are generally large and i have the attnetionspan of a... woohoo, squirrel!

[Cass]

 

 

makes sense to me Cass. 

 

 

Yey!

 

(FWIW, I thought it was clear the first time...  )

 

your posts are generally large and i have the attnetionspan of a... woohoo, squirrel!

 

Lol

 

Even my eyes cross over on my WoT rereads. It sucks. I know it sucks. But I can't help it because I want to make sure that I'm clear. lol

 

I'm trying to trim them down...

[Thane Vakarian]

it's ok , i try to make sense of them and usually know what you mean. If not, i ask

[Cass]

*Goes back to general re-reading/consideration from EoD*

I've promised myself I'll be in bed by midnight at the latest tonight

   

 (little under 2 hours away) and I'd like to be caught up for when the craziness of PoG begins.

 

If I find stuff relating to you I'll try and post it first in case you have a chance to answer. Happy with my replies to you so far?

[Cass]

it's ok , i try to make sense of them and usually know what you mean. If not, i ask

 

 

 

Wait....

 

 

You buddying me??

[Thane Vakarian]

yup. As i said, i'd be unhappy if you'd be a wolf this game. Not saying you couldn't fool me, but i'd like to think i could figure out when you play as a wolf.