[Standard] 11/10 Top Tier Vanilla+ Game Thread

[csarmi]

  On 11/28/2014 at 5:18 AM, Pralaya said:

 

  On 11/28/2014 at 5:13 AM, Thane Vakarian said:

Pral, remind me to tunnel you to death next game i'm suspicious of you D1

 

 

Hehe, it was good instincts. But your reasons were kind of weak because I play the same way as town on D1.

You wanted us in F3 right? Did you suspect I had you down as top suspect?

[csarmi]

  On 11/28/2014 at 5:19 AM, Thane Vakarian said:

i trust my gut more than i can put my reasoning on paper, that's the problem

Your reasoning is sound enough Thane. Just not always apparent right there. On a reread i saw what you meant why you said it and they were very good reads on top of that.

 

You don't need to change your style. People have to start reading the game.

[Thane Vakarian]

Thanks Csarmi, but i think it would help if more people would understand me more easily so i don't get lynched so often. Or get a CFD... 

[csarmi]

People will always make bad calls if they don't read and reread in contex. Note that thee wre quite a few goat players who did NOT misread you.

[Pralaya]

  On 11/28/2014 at 5:19 AM, Thane Vakarian said:

i trust my gut more than i can put my reasoning on paper, that's the problem

Heh, you are not alone. I have the same problem. That is why my best games are when I am a vig :D

[Pralaya]

  On 11/28/2014 at 5:34 AM, csarmi said:

 

  On 11/28/2014 at 5:18 AM, Pralaya said:

 

  On 11/28/2014 at 5:13 AM, Thane Vakarian said:

Pral, remind me to tunnel you to death next game i'm suspicious of you D1

 

Hehe, it was good instincts. But your reasons were kind of weak because I play the same way as town on D1.

 

You wanted us in F3 right? Did you suspect I had you down as top suspect?

 

I kinda expected you to vote me last day. But, I had my trust in Des too :)

 

I was mainly planning to use the fact that dice was supposed to vig Cass and no vig death means that I can push the suspicion on her.

 

Which brings me to the point, what happened to my BPV???

[Thane Vakarian]

[csarmi]

Pray, did you have a BPV for real?

 

Anyway we probably would have lynched you even if you survived but it wouldn't have been easy. Cause I didn't think Dice (or any team player) would ever go rogue here, but by then I was totally convinced Cass was town.

[csarmi]

  On 11/28/2014 at 9:42 AM, Pralaya said:

 

  On 11/28/2014 at 5:34 AM, csarmi said:

 

  On 11/28/2014 at 5:18 AM, Pralaya said:

 

  On 11/28/2014 at 5:13 AM, Thane Vakarian said:

Pral, remind me to tunnel you to death next game i'm suspicious of you D1

Hehe, it was good instincts. But your reasons were kind of weak because I play the same way as town on D1.

You wanted us in F3 right? Did you suspect I had you down as top suspect?

I kinda expected you to vote me last day. But, I had my trust in Des too :)

 

I was mainly planning to use the fact that dice was supposed to vig Cass and no vig death means that I can push the suspicion on her.

 

Which brings me to the point, what happened to my BPV???

Yea but you couldn't raise that point yourself cause then the question would be why you were not really participating and taking stance and clarify and such in that discussion. Or call a hit yourself.

[Pralaya]

Yeah, I had a BPV.

[csarmi]

  On 11/24/2014 at 5:38 PM, Cass said:

Have done up to EoD 1 on Darthe. Gut says he's quite a wee bit scummy. Won't post a giant Cass WoT, but find it weird how he was one of the first to get serious, how he pushed Leelou just a bit, had some weird conversations with Kiv and Yates and Des and dropped his Yates vote at last minute to vote against Dice. The weight of other confirmed Town people's meta on him (esp. Leelou) counts for me here too. Also on review, I'm really not sure that I can like the way he sided/buddied with me, starting when I came straight out and posted @Kiv that I thought Kivam was scum. At the time it was nice to have a 'friend', but... why is he the only one 'buying' my explanations -especially now- if nobody else is willing to do the same? Yes Darthe, I realise I'm painting you into a no-win situation there, but really, all me still being here is doing is confusing the game/wasting time.

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Thanks if your benefit of the doubt is genuine though, potential scum

 

 

I'm going with this.

 

[v]##Darthe[/v]

 

 

 

FWIW, in my re-read I'm a little more clear on Dice - Krak for one (and Darthe too if you count his end vote) made definite moves against him that could've been scum pushing. I'm still not comfortable with Deslarmi. Hopefully I'm wrong and maybe it's just lack of meta, but there's a whole lot of random going on there. This post and others just felt weird too. Thane is still either scummy or just walked into traps/communicates strangely. Tress, Pral and Hallia I really don't think I have enough to go on, not sold on the idea that Hally's not SK just because odds are low.

 

 

In a nutshell, Sus down to Town

 

Darthe

Tress

Deslarmi

Thane

Pral

Dice

Halli

 

 

And, one final time, just so I'm sure you've all heard: I'm not the SK and I have not been scumming it up with Wolves .

 

 

 

Will be on mobile sneeking peeks at the office tomorrow. GL!

Cass GOAT

[csarmi]

  On 11/28/2014 at 11:27 AM, Pralaya said:

Yeah, I had a BPV.

Wear it next time?

[Sili Quirrels]

What would be a good win rate?

 

I have 3 - 3.

[csarmi]

Dunno.

 

I think I have about 3/4, maybe a little lower.

[Sili Quirrels]

that sounds good.

[csarmi]

But most of the time I've been playing town was winning most of the games. So ~60-70% of the players won on average.

[Sili Quirrels]

those old days will come again, i hope.

[Sili Quirrels]

though i start to think this game favors wolves in the math.

[csarmi]

  On 11/24/2014 at 9:06 PM, Hallia said:

I'm off finding a tiny violin for Darthe,

 

I'm adding AtE to his scum tells.

My fav post.

 

Hally GOAT

 

@Cass - the best tip I can give you is to reread the thread NOW that you have full info. Analyze it. Possibly finalize your notes.

 

Then come back to it in a week and do a skim.

 

Yea that's work. But that works.

[Cass]

  On 11/28/2014 at 12:50 PM, csarmi said:

@Cass - the best tip I can give you is to reread the thread NOW that you have full info. Analyze it. Possibly finalize your notes.

Then come back to it in a week and do a skim.

Yea that's work. But that works.

Already on it ;)

[Sili Quirrels]

If you look at his reaction in the dead thread it's pretty clear he acted up because it was unjustified. And I am sure people appeal to emotion whenever they're invested in the outcome anyway, so I guess it depends.

[Cass]

  On 11/28/2014 at 11:27 AM, Pralaya said:

Yeah, I had a BPV.

...

 

Damn

[Sili Quirrels]

He was probably shot early on.

[Sili Quirrels]

Oh, and mistakes will happen. Mostly my death was because Wombat decided to play a gambit.

[Sili Quirrels]

I say gambit... really, it was probably a ruse to help cover his power role and delay his death.