[Advanced] Revenge of the Marlfox

[Krakalakachkn]

That's a lynch

 

 

Alanna(4): Monstrma'am, Sili, Dice, Pral

 

Not voting: Lates, Alanna

[Krakalakachkn]

Alanna, Mafia Roleblocker, has been lynched.

 

 

It is now Night. Actions are due in 24 hours at 10:30 am EST.

[Sili Quirrels]

thanks krakus.

 

we nabbed the roleblocker it seems.

[Pralaya]

 

 

If this is three town votes it's currently 4/2

 

which means there is one townie and two wolves not voting

 

also yates is a townie, dunno if you know that or not.

 

 

Also, BFKey flipping jailkeeper lock clears me.

 

It's the only explanation for the no death on n1.

 

This kind of hard justification at the end game is why I think manbat is the last scum. Town wouldn't do this, this is desperate scum tactics.

 

For the first point, no, Alanna was going to obvioulsy lynched today whether scum wanted or not. There was clearly going to be scum busing her. But, you bringing out that specifically that you are town because you voted Alanna first is just desperately trying to get town cred.

 

For the second, as mentioned a post back, it does not clear you as town. You are an experienced mafia player and you should know this. You wouldn't try to clear using this assumption if you were actually town.

First of all, major misrep because I never once said the words "I'm clear for wanting alanna lynched" so that's strike one.

 

Strike two: i made a Tolo vote. No one had any idea alanna would be the lynch. Why are you posting as if you already knew she was going to die? This is why you two are w/w

 

Third of all, you are indicating extreme levels of cognitive dissonance in your post where you are talking to me as if you are being aggressive and trying to find scum, but your post specifically says "you are an experienced mafia player. You wouldn't try to use this to clear yourself as town."

 

Where normally this wouldn't seem to be much of a problem in this case you are referring to me in specific as if you have played with me many times before and know what I would and would not do as town, a train that nearly no one else has shown in this game aside from corycurren, who also flipped wolf.

 

I think this is a strange assumption to make and you're already saying "there was clearly going to be scum bussing her" which pretty much confirms the scuscum lynch because you already assume in that exact sentence she is flipping mafia.

 

It was a house. Of cards.

 

 

When you say that the remaining wolf is in the other two non-voters, it is clear that you are proclaiming yourself town. Stop pretending otherwise.

 

Everyone has been talking about lynching ALanna. You can look at what I had said or Yates or Sili or Dice yesterday and it was pretty clear that everyone was voting Alanna. Saying that she was doubtful to be voted just crude justification.

 

Your hard justification trying to portray yourself as town pretty much outed you. None of them were actually true and it was just a desperate move.

[Pralaya]

Pral Is reaching.

 

Whether I die or not lynch him last

 

I guarantee you he shoots Sili tonight (a person I would never shoot as scum since he is on my side) if he's trying to frame me.

 

Now he's probably locked into it. Glglgl

 

Really? Neither are you dying nor sili is. It is obvious who is going to die tonight, both town and scum can see it ... so save that logic.

 

You are just trying to pass the suspicion after slipping. Nice try.

[Pralaya]

 

FINAL VOTE COUNT - Day 1

 

Berf (2): AJ, Thane

BFKEY(1): Pral

Sili (4): Des, Lates, Cuddles, Dice

Thane (9): Tommy, Alanna, Sili, Berf, Monstr, Flea Bag, Arsis, BFKEY, Rags

FINAL VOTE COUNT - Day 2

 

Pral (3): AJ, BFKEY, Sili

Sili (8): Cuddles, Dice, Pral, Arsis, Des, Alanna, Lates, Tommy

Alanna (1): Monstr

Cuddles (1): Berf

BFKEY (1): Rags

 

Not Voting (1): Verbal

FINAL Vote Count - Day 3

 

Verbal (7): Des, Hallia, Rags, Monstr, Dice, Sili, Arsis

Hallia (2): Verbal, Lates

Arsis (1): Alanna

 

Not Voting (2): BFKEY, Pral

Final Vote Count - Day 4:

 

Hallia(1): Monstr

BFKEY(5): Des, Pral, Alanna, Hallia, Rags

Des(4): Sili, Dice, BFKEY, Lates

Final Vote Count - Day 5

 

BFKey (6): Des, Rags, Alanna, Hallia, Manbat, Sili

Hallia (4): Lates, BFKEY, Dice, Pray

 

Not voting (0)

Final Vote Count - Day 6

 

Halia: Lates, Pral, Desp, Dice, Sili

Rags: Halia

Desp: Rags

 

Not voting: Manbat

 

 

For those still thinking monstr as town, look at D4 and D5 lynches as they hold the key.

 

D4 was a lynch between two townies and yet the lynch did not go through. Sili and dice both were online nearing the deadline and neither of them shifted the BFKey to lynch. This wiould not even have put suspicion on sili or dice because BFG was the top scum choice of many. The only reason why this didn't go through was that monstr wasn't online at the time. It pretty much explains it all.

 

For D5, monstr was distancing how hallia was scum for days. And, yet what happens during the deadline. He ends up voting BFG over Hallia. Especially, when it was looking like the day would go to another no-lynch and the scum had to hard push BFG. If you don't see the opportunism here, then I don't know what else to say. 

[monstrman]

Your accusation against me still doesn't make sense.

 

First you said I was clearing myself because I voted Alanna first, and now you say I was clearing myself because I said I was a townie. I'm not really sure how I am supposed to be expected to say I'm anything else regardless of what my alignment is which makes your reasoning for suspecting me holier than swiss cheese

[monstrman]

I can make you look bad from votes too.

 

Look at pral ONLY EVER VOTING FOR TOWN IS UNTIL HALLIA LYNCH

[monstrman]

And not only that but I don't know what universe you're thinking of where I'm scum and try to lynch a wolf over a townie when my team would be so close to victory but it must be a nice place.

 

Pretty sure I always hammer there as scum

[Pralaya]

If this is three town votes it's currently 4/2

 

which means there is one townie and two wolves not voting

 

also yates is a townie, dunno if you know that or not.

 

No, I did not say that you were clearing yourself BY VOTING Alanna. You were trying to clear yourself by claiming that all the votes on Alanna so far was town. Which is an indirect way of saying that you are town. 

[monstrman]

 

If this is three town votes it's currently 4/2

 

which means there is one townie and two wolves not voting

 

also yates is a townie, dunno if you know that or not.

 

 

 

Also, BFKey flipping jailkeeper lock clears me.

 

It's the only explanation for the no death on n1.

 

 

For the first point, no, Alanna was going to obvioulsy lynched today whether scum wanted or not. There was clearly going to be scum busing her. But, you bringing out that specifically that you are town because you voted Alanna first is just desperately trying to get town cred.

 

For the second, as mentioned a post back, it does not clear you as town. You are an experienced mafia player and you should know this. You wouldn't try to clear using this assumption if you were actually town.

Dunno how I ever said "i'm voting for alanna first so I'm clear" ever came into contention but it sounds like you already know she's flipping scum

#dropthemic

You in fact said exactly that.

[Pralaya]

Voting for town isn't the point. The context is the point. What was the situation when you voted.

 

The D5 lynch was critical in that aspect. 

 

@Sili, you need to stop tinfoiling here. Just see the obvious distancing D2 and D4 and the unnatural progression of monstr voting out the JK over a scum and frankly tell me that he is not scum. 

[monstrman]

Sili you need to stop tinfoiling here and just realize that he has now changed his reasoning for suspecting me itt

[Pralaya]

 

 

If this is three town votes it's currently 4/2

 

which means there is one townie and two wolves not voting

 

also yates is a townie, dunno if you know that or not.

 

 

Also, BFKey flipping jailkeeper lock clears me.

 

It's the only explanation for the no death on n1.

 

For the first point, no, Alanna was going to obvioulsy lynched today whether scum wanted or not. There was clearly going to be scum busing her. But, you bringing out that specifically that you are town because you voted Alanna first is just desperately trying to get town cred.

 

For the second, as mentioned a post back, it does not clear you as town. You are an experienced mafia player and you should know this. You wouldn't try to clear using this assumption if you were actually town.

 

Dunno how I ever said "i'm voting for alanna first so I'm clear" ever came into contention but it sounds like you already know she's flipping scum

#dropthemic

You in fact said exactly that.

 

 

That's what YOU said, which I am pointing out

 

Let me phrase it so you can stop misrepping me.

 

But, you bringing out that specifically that "you are town because you voted Alanna first" is just desperately trying to get town cred

[monstrman]

For anyone that knows pral, does he have the ability to go this ham against a townie as a wolf?

 

Is he generally this aggressive?

 

Would like to know just to make sure I don't flub this because even if he is a villager and votes wrong we can still win.

[monstrman]

You're the one misrepping me because I never even used voting alanna as a justification for myself being town.

 

I said "assuming there are three townies on this lynch"

 

It's pretty stretch Armstrong to say that I'm using the justification to call myself a townie at all especially when the justification I was using to be a townie was that there was no n1 kill

[Pralaya]

I get aggressive when I have caught a wolf. Ask Cory. 

[monstrman]

I mean if you're town you just gotta face that you're wrong and we gotta work together and if you're mafia you have to realize by now that your reason for suspecting me has officially been refuted, because it has.

 

Sure we can claim wagonomics all day and like I said anyone can make anyone else look bad by spinning a narrative around how the wagons happened.

 

The evidence supporting this logic is thus: "look pral is voting for all townies because he was just looking for mislynches.

[Pralaya]

You're the one misrepping me because I never even used voting alanna as a justification for myself being town.

 

I said "assuming there are three townies on this lynch"

 

It's pretty stretch Armstrong to say that I'm using the justification to call myself a townie at all especially when the justification I was using to be a townie was that there was no n1 kill

 

Yeah, both posts were attempts to justify yourself as town. The latter was flawed reasoning and the former was just being subtle. 

My point against you was based on both posts together.

[monstrman]

Well you're wrong if you're a villager so I hope that you can come around to the idea that I am town especially after PRETTY MUCH EVERY POWER TOWN I THAT KNOWS MY MET CALL ED ME LOCK CLEAR ALL GAME.

[Pralaya]

I mean if you're town you just gotta face that you're wrong and we gotta work together and if you're mafia you have to realize by now that your reason for suspecting me has officially been refuted, because it has.

 

Sure we can claim wagonomics all day and like I said anyone can make anyone else look bad by spinning a narrative around how the wagons happened.

 

The evidence supporting this logic is thus: "look pral is voting for all townies because he was just looking for mislynches.

 

So, who do you think is wolf?

[Sili Quirrels]

oh boy

[Sili Quirrels]

i'm going to let the dust settle

[monstrman]

 

You're the one misrepping me because I never even used voting alanna as a justification for myself being town.

I said "assuming there are three townies on this lynch"

It's pretty stretch Armstrong to say that I'm using the justification to call myself a townie at all especially when the justification I was using to be a townie was that there was no n1 kill

 

 

Yeah, both posts were attempts to justify yourself as town. The latter was flawed reasoning and the former was just being subtle. 

My point against you was based on both posts together.

No. The second post is a declaration that I am town. That is NOT a justification for clearing myself. They are two different things.

[Pralaya]

Well you're wrong if you're a villager so I hope that you can come around to the idea that I am town especially after PRETTY MUCH EVERY POWER TOWN I THAT KNOWS MY MET CALL ED ME LOCK CLEAR ALL GAME.

 

And, this is the reason why your over-justification looked suspect. And, no, someone calling you lock clear on D1 is not valid.