[Advanced] Kronos and Kaylee's Firefly Mafia Won

[hazelkrs1]

Des, if you want to waste your times quoting posts ive already read, be my guest.

 

Clov has been pinging since he came into the game. His tone is off. His "gambit" was lame. His interactions with me were meh. His following posts mostly involved him going after the newbie, which also doesnt make sense to me.

 

I've played with Clov as town. I've played with him as scum. Not only that, but I was with him in a scum team and got a feel first hand how he plays as scum. He will always respond to nudges and engage because he does that as either alignments. But he makes a ton more sense as town wheres as scum he nitpicks to make it seem like he's actively scumhunting.

 

I'm not buying it and I think he's scum.

So basically what you're saying is you're locked in to that scum read and pretty much don't plan on changing it any time soon?

 

If that's what you're saying, ...

 

[hazelkrs1]

You're basically trolling me Despo by calling black white over and over again.

 

And I'm literally THIS close to post stuff that might earn me a board ban. So yes stop pushing this ty.

Despot doesn't negotiate with terrorists

[csarmi]

I'll just follow my town read.

 

You guya figure this out while im cooling off.

 

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[V]Clov[/v]

 

Sheeping Nyn mode is activated.

[hazelkrs1]

Despo, in the future please refrain from signing up to games that i did. I shall do likewise.

[csarmi]

 

You're basically trolling me Despo by calling black white over and over again.

 

And I'm literally THIS close to post stuff that might earn me a board ban. So yes stop pushing this ty.

Despot doesn't negotiate with terrorists

Can we resolve this Des?

 

Or do you prefer me replacing out?

[hazelkrs1]

 

 

You're basically trolling me Despo by calling black white over and over again.

 

And I'm literally THIS close to post stuff that might earn me a board ban. So yes stop pushing this ty.

Despot doesn't negotiate with terrorists

Can we resolve this Des?

 

Or do you prefer me replacing out?

I prefer you calm down, and come back and respond when you can be reasonable. You're making the game unenjoyable for me atm.

[hazelkrs1]

And quit spamming for the love of God

[csarmi]

In the meantime we have this game.

 

Drop your trolling and i'll drop my spam.

 

But i really do feel like you're doing your best to rile me up by trolling me. I should think you would know how much stuff like thia bothers me.

 

I would never lie here as eitger alignment and i would never defend a player i dont have a confident read on... As either alignment. I would gues you know that so im just facepalming here.

 

Read that exchange again dude, look me in the eye and say that i did not help there to get Hally's wim and interaction up.

 

Do that.

 

Do that in a way that sounds believable and I'll drop this.

 

Seriiusly.

[csarmi]

I am calm now. Kind of. Physico starts in ten minutes.

 

Seriously. Read it. Really do. And tell me with total confidence that i didn't help there to get Hally's wim and interaction up. Then tell me with confidencw that your way of questioning would have worked. You yourself was frustrated there cause it didnt... According to you.

 

But read thia with a fresh mind and tell those things in my face. Do it.

[hazelkrs1]

Csarmi I'm not trying to troll you by saying you were defending her

 

Imo it's not even close to gray area, it's plain as day

 

Your argument is 120% semantics imo, and you getting all hot nd bothered and jumping up and down about it is so Bleurgh to me

[csarmi]

I'm back in an hour.

[hazelkrs1]

This is such a stupid thing to be arguing about

 

Wish I followed through with stuff I said like ever, can only imagine people catching up this are hating life right about now

[csarmi]

Okay forget about semantics.

 

Answer my last two questions.

 

Also tell me that its not pro town to help (defend if you wish to use that word) when you see that something isn't going right.

 

Do it.

[csarmi]

This is such a stupid thing to be arguing about

 

Wish I followed through with stuff I said like ever, can only imagine people catching up this are hating life right about now

I'm pretty sure they will be able to read through.

[csarmi]

I'm kind of serious with not wanting to play with you again btw. This is not even you. We just dont seem to fit in a game for lulz :-(

 

Maybe we should hydra to try and learn some patience towards one another.

[csarmi]

I agree with Nyn's assertion of Clov's play BTW. I'm mixed on him nevertheless cause I'm not really sure how to tell his town/scum play apart but I trust her to do.

[Leelou]

How do you get from here: 

Yea Clov I dunno who the scum are.

Prolly Thane and Wombat.

I usually try to find townies day one and PoE.

To here: 

I agree with Nyn's assertion of Clov's play BTW. I'm mixed on him nevertheless cause I'm not really sure how to tell his town/scum play apart but I trust her to do.

[csarmi]

Thread feels villagery this morning.

First stop. Thread did seem villagery. Upon reread too. Carefree chatter. I wouldn't be surprised if all participants were town actually. May even include Thane though he is way too obsessed with how he looks. Jury out on Sili. I can see how Hally might see spamming there tho.

[csarmi]

 

How do you get from here:

Yea Clov I dunno who the scum are.

 

Prolly Thane and Wombat.

 

I usually try to find townies day one and PoE.

To here:

I agree with Nyn's assertion of Clov's play BTW. I'm mixed on him nevertheless cause I'm not really sure how to tell his town/scum play apart but I trust her to do.

With a leap of faith in Nyn's GOATness. And it kind of reinforced my vibes on Clov.

 

I actually did start to reread tho for the Dragon's sake so ask me again when I finished.

 

I really loved Nyn's case.

[csarmi]

A heat up period and a cool down happened in between, Lee. I've been reforged.

[Tommyrod]

Des one thing you need to become aware of at some point in your life is that you're not always going to be right. You're going to be right about strong villagers leans ~85-90% of the time because the game starts with ~70% villagers and if someone goes 50% out of their wolf range then they're already 85% a villager. But if a player starts at 30% wolf and cuts their villager range in half they're still a wolf 65% of the time. That means you're gonna be inaccurate 1/3 of the time even with correct information. So what do you do? You weigh the reads of your strong villagers. If someone you read as 90% villager has reasonable doubt on your 65% wolf read, then it's more like a 50% wolf read and you can probably find someone better. It's why I'm consistently aware of how Clov appears scummy because I have experience with him as a wolf, but why I'm not crucifying him because AJ is reading him town and I'm weighing that read because thats good enough for now. So you could do yourself and all of us a favor by seeing the game from a team perspective instead of declaring that people that disagree with you are >rand scum because A) you're not gonna be right all the time and B) if you're grinding against several players with good intuition or strong ability to read other specific players (think Salami <-> Tress last game) then you need to reconsider your own position. So who are your top 2 villagers? Try weighing them more when they're confident about something, even if it doesn't match what you think. (And don't form top villagers just based on if they agree with you already.)

[csarmi]

Fwiw that is good advice. Des you do seem to judge people on whether they agree with you. I think Clov and Cory both said in a game that they simply have to match your reads to get into your town pile... And Tommy been leading you on in the Thrawn game with kind of the same.

[csarmi]

Tommy, Leelou, what do you think about Hally's catchup and interaction there? I'm looking for something specific - i wanna know if only i can see it.

[csarmi]

 

 

Fwiw I think Tom is town. I think scum Tom would've abided by the 50 post thing, and used that as a tactic.

Probably not a good way to read me

So you're scum? K

 

:p

Weird sequence from Hally. I like her tone but strange thoughts seem to be coming from het mouth. Nyn is strong around here. Thane sounded much better.

[csarmi]

Also i didn't see how Wombat waa being overdefensive but i tend to take Hally on her worda so it stuck in my mind.

 

Hally, what made you feel so_ any idea?