[Standard] Cory vs. Bad Dietary Habits & Laziness Mafia, Mafia Sweep

[Tyler Glembo]

TG I don't mind you covering all bases but this is likely the least productive thing you could be doing right now.

 

I'm voting Pral and don't need to redo the cop spew analysis.  We kill Pral, he shoots Yates, I say we get at least 1 scum.  I don't see what else is currently relevant besides determining possible teammates.

 

Scumteam Pral/Yates + Darthe + SP + Dice?

[Tommyrod]

TG any commentary on Pral? You said not scum with Yatea but that's all you said.

[Tommyrod]

Dice accused someone of being scummy early for accusing SP. I think AJ maybe. Saw it while looking for Pral quotes.

 

TG I think your behavior right now is scummy. Looks like a bus.

 

If Pral flips scum you think that means what for SP's Mason claim?

[Tyler Glembo]

TG any commentary on Pral? You said not scum with Yatea but that's all you said.

 

Yes, Des is my top town read and you're somewhat town.  The analysis you both did on cop spew was solid.  The claim since convinces me that we need to lynch Pral today.  Either he is scum and he could be lying, or he is town and he gets a shot off.  If we don't lynch him today he ends up beign a possible nightkill and we lose the +EV of a town shot.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

TG any commentary on Pral? You said not scum with Yatea but that's all you said.

Yes, Des is my top town read and you're somewhat town. The analysis you both did on cop spew was solid. The claim since convinces me that we need to lynch Pral today. Either he is scum and he could be lying, or he is town and he gets a shot off. If we don't lynch him today he ends up beign a possible nightkill and we lose the +EV of a town shot.

Whoa whoa what? It is not worth it to trade a town lynch for a shot that MIGHT hit scum. It *IS* far better for Pral to get night killed -- he's not an important PR.

[Tommyrod]

[unvote]

 

[v]TG[/v]

 

Scum.

[Tyler Glembo]

Dice accused someone of being scummy early for accusing SP. I think AJ maybe. Saw it while looking for Pral quotes.

 

TG I think your behavior right now is scummy. Looks like a bus.

 

If Pral flips scum you think that means what for SP's Mason claim?

 

So my behavior looks scummy contingent upon your read on Pral?  As for the mason claim, I don't know yet as I need to go back and look at any interactions with Pral and Dice/SP, but I want more out of Dice and SP independently.

[Arsis]

If you believe his claim. You don't lynch him. Especially with no scum dead yet.

 

 

If you think it's a ploy to live another night for another poison. You do.

[Tommyrod]

Pral voted for SP and called his claim a lie. Hence his vote bring on SP?

[Tommyrod]

 

Time for me to continue this below average game.

Claim time~

Mason. Dice and I.

Yeah, I don't buy this. Looked at SP's posts on D1 and saw this reads list.

 

Slender why Nervositee?

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3. TomStress [Tommyrod / Songstress] - Currently leaning Town on Tom, nothing scummy to be seen from his so far in my opinion.

4. Andrej - Leaning more likely town than scum on AJ, he's not playing like Lylo in DBZ or how he played that game at all really.

5. Arsis - Leaning null on Arsis a lot of his posts feel lacking in substance and as if they're just there.

6. SickPuppets - Town

7. Krakalakachkn - Haven't seen any posts by him. Null.

8. manbat - Monstr, I'll be able to tell if he's town for sure if not whenever the first scum flips.

9. Body Burner nervositee - Null, I've seen one post by him

10. Darthe - Same for Darthe, little to nothing to work with

11. Torrey_Smith's_Brother - He's dissapeared from the thread after being pushed by TG. I'd say that makes Swag more likely town than scum. Scum Swag's more likely to be quite a bit more active.

12. TI [Turin Turambar / Ithillian] - Slight scum lean. A lot of their posts I haven't liked or felt one hundred percent about.

13. Pralaya - Haven't seen anything by, currently being pushed.

14. TheSlenderMan - Minor town lean at the moment, he's not being worthless and some of his posts are good.

15. dicetosser1 - Null, I've seen two posts by him.

16. GleMeri [TGlems / Meridian] - I don't believe Meridian has posted but TG I am currently null on

17. Despothera - Leaning town on Des this game, he's being quite a bit more casual than usual yet still trying. I think Scum!Despot would be a lot more likely to be cautious rather than laid back

That makes absolutely no sense if they were masons. Why would he call him null? Irespective of how much dice posts, he knows he is town. Not only that, other than this, SP doesn't talk about Dice at all till D2. Dice does defend SP in a couple of posts but all in late D1 or afterwards. No hints early D1, which makes me suspect this is just a gambit by them.

 

[v]SickPuppets[/v]

Right here. The narrative itself is scummy. Notice how its addressed to "the audience" instead of confronting SP.

[Tommyrod]

The claim post from SP quoted above looks pure as hell. Chance of that being how scum claims Mason is like 0.1%.

[Tyler Glembo]

Whoa whoa what? It is not worth it to trade a town lynch for a shot that MIGHT hit scum. It *IS* far better for Pral to get night killed -- he's not an important PR.

 

Pral and Yates are both on my scum possible teams, and Pral looks like the best lynch for today given cop-spew analysis.  Especially given that Pral would likely be lying about his claim if he is scum. 

 

However, on the off chance Pral is town, at least we get a town-directed shot out of the deal. 

[Tommyrod]

 

Whoa whoa what? It is not worth it to trade a town lynch for a shot that MIGHT hit scum. It *IS* far better for Pral to get night killed -- he's not an important PR.

Pral and Yates are both on my scum possible teams, and Pral looks like the best lynch for today given cop-spew analysis. Especially given that Pral would likely be lying about his claim if he is scum.

 

However, on the off chance Pral is town, at least we get a town-directed shot out of the deal.

But that's not what you said. You said:

 

"If we don't lynch him today he ends up beign a possible nightkill and we lose the +EV of a town shot."

 

Implying you DONT want scum to night kill him even though that would be the BEST scenario.

[Pralaya]

 

It would have been better if the info would not be known for scum. Plus, as clearly seen above, it is not a claim which would be easily believed. It would be better to claim later in the game when the options to kill are reduced than at the beginning.

What? You get a shot if you get lynched. But it's better to just claim and draw a night kill -- especially when you haven't been active.

 

Saving this for endgame makes no sense to me.

 

You admitting it's not a believable claim bothers me even more.

Obviously because I would get more information on who to shoot later in the game. Planning to die D1 or D2 with a shot is basically shooting in the dark.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

It would have been better if the info would not be known for scum. Plus, as clearly seen above, it is not a claim which would be easily believed. It would be better to claim later in the game when the options to kill are reduced than at the beginning.

What? You get a shot if you get lynched. But it's better to just claim and draw a night kill -- especially when you haven't been active.

 

Saving this for endgame makes no sense to me.

 

You admitting it's not a believable claim bothers me even more.

Obviously because I would get more information on who to shoot later in the game. Planning to die D1 or D2 with a shot is basically shooting in the dark.

WHAT??? IF YOU CLAIM YOU WONT GET LYNCHED! YOU'LL DRAW A NK! THATS FAR BETTER THAN A TOWN LYNCH FOLLOWED BY A GAMBLE!

 

You're even even making sense!

[Pralaya]

Pral why did you say "good thing you guts didn't lynch me" on D3 if lynching you D2 would have given you a shot to use? Seems like an incongruent response.

Because i would have shot csarmi had I been lynched D1. And, he had claimed healer at the time.

[Tommyrod]

I'm still waiting on that flavor of how dumbbells let you kill people. I'm guessing it's not coming because its a fake claim.

[Pralaya]

 

 

 

It would have been better if the info would not be known for scum. Plus, as clearly seen above, it is not a claim which would be easily believed. It would be better to claim later in the game when the options to kill are reduced than at the beginning.

What? You get a shot if you get lynched. But it's better to just claim and draw a night kill -- especially when you haven't been active.

 

Saving this for endgame makes no sense to me.

 

You admitting it's not a believable claim bothers me even more.

Obviously because I would get more information on who to shoot later in the game. Planning to die D1 or D2 with a shot is basically shooting in the dark.

WHAT??? IF YOU CLAIM YOU WONT GET LYNCHED! YOU'LL DRAW A NK! THATS FAR BETTER THAN A TOWN LYNCH FOLLOWED BY A GAMBLE!

 

You're even even making sense!

Why will i try to get NK and losing a free shot at scum, which is quite probable at later stages of the game . You are the one not making any sense.

[Tommyrod]

 

Pral why did you say "good thing you guts didn't lynch me" on D3 if lynching you D2 would have given you a shot to use? Seems like an incongruent response.

Because i would have shot csarmi had I been lynched D1. And, he had claimed healer at the time.

Salami? Why salami?

[Pralaya]

Look at my post end of D1

[Tommyrod]

 

 

 

 

It would have been better if the info would not be known for scum. Plus, as clearly seen above, it is not a claim which would be easily believed. It would be better to claim later in the game when the options to kill are reduced than at the beginning.

What? You get a shot if you get lynched. But it's better to just claim and draw a night kill -- especially when you haven't been active.

 

Saving this for endgame makes no sense to me.

 

You admitting it's not a believable claim bothers me even more.

Obviously because I would get more information on who to shoot later in the game. Planning to die D1 or D2 with a shot is basically shooting in the dark.

WHAT??? IF YOU CLAIM YOU WONT GET LYNCHED! YOU'LL DRAW A NK! THATS FAR BETTER THAN A TOWN LYNCH FOLLOWED BY A GAMBLE!

 

You're even even making sense!

Why will i try to get NK and losing a free shot at scum, which is quite probable at later stages of the game . You are the one not making any sense.

Because if you miss that's two townies dead. If you get NK'd you play to your wincon and protect more important roles and we don't waste time arguing over you. You've been a scum lean all game.

 

This is basic. I refuse to believe you don't understand this.

[Tommyrod]

Look at my post end of D1

I see it. So... you felt better about Arsis or just thought Salami was scummier?

[Tyler Glembo]

But that's not what you said. You said:

"If we don't lynch him today he ends up beign a possible nightkill and we lose the +EV of a town shot."

 

Implying you DONT want scum to night kill him even though that would be the BEST scenario.

 

You might be right on this.  I was thinking that currently we are at 12 left, presumably 4 scum.  We lynch Pral today and if he is scum, a NK tonight puts us at 10/3 tomorrow.

If Pral is actually town, he shoots Yates, and we likely hit scum in the two putting us at 9/3 tomorrow. 

But in your scenario of 2 townies dead that puts us at 9/4 and MyLo.  Having Pral be a potential NK given the WIFOM it introduces to scum for his possible lynch later is probably more +EV than a town-directed shot now. 

[Tommyrod]

 

 

But that's not what you said. You said:

"If we don't lynch him today he ends up beign a possible nightkill and we lose the +EV of a town shot."

 

Implying you DONT want scum to night kill him even though that would be the BEST scenario.

You might be right on this. I was thinking that currently we are at 12 left, presumably 4 scum. We lynch Pral today and if he is scum, a NK tonight puts us at 10/3 tomorrow.

If Pral is actually town, he shoots Yates, and we likely hit scum in the two putting us at 9/3 tomorrow.

But in your scenario of 2 townies dead that puts us at 9/4 and MyLo. Having Pral be a potential NK given the WIFOM it introduces to scum for his possible lynch later is probably more +EV than a town-directed shot now.

Who are the 4 players you think are scum?

[Tommyrod]

Do you guys see this? If Pral is somehow town then TG is scum and spewed Yates town. TG has been scummy as HELL since he popped in.