[Advanced] Blackhoof's Cthulhu Mythos Mafia Game- Day 1

[Myndrunner]

Why would Despo not question my Dreamer reading or go after one of the other two?  Why did he choose Red instead?

[nervositee]

I'm instinctively positive to Des, cause he sees what I see and thus I feel like we share a goal and alignment.

 

I'm however wary of to what extent he has defended me now towards Red. Most people have me as town atm and it could be a buddying move. Even setting me up for a future mislynch if Red is actually town.

 

Might be paranoid android here. I'm liking his play so I'm not gonna pursue my paranoia atm. But keeping it at the back of my mind in case.

 

I think Red is seriously misrepping. Not just me but absolutely everything in this game. Like seriously so. However, as confident as she is, I'm doubting she would actually stand in direct opposition on SO many as scum. Her reads list is like everyone elses just turned UP-SIDE-DOWN. Not sure if scum would stick their neck that far out.

 

I'm comfortable with my vote on Womb today. I think we're seeing some heavy town-on-town this game and I think everyone should look at the bigger picture instead of picking sides in player-player-conflicts.

 

Wombat today, then lookng at Tsanubi. He is iffy-smelling too. His explaining Reds action looks like he is scum team working on leading Red around.

 

His reply to me just above didn't help the feel, really. Why mad?

[Red2111]

@ clov - he defending Despos lynch by attacking me and pushing the person i'm lockclearing. its an indirect defense, but a defense none-the-less imo

 

 

the only thing that will change my mind at this point on wombat is if a finder outs him as scum. until then agree to disagree because its the best "concrete" thing i have in this game aside form my gut reads.

 

and by concrete i mean coming form the mod so i know its legit from Womby.

 

if he's YOLO scumming me then congrats to him for taking a gamble and succeeding, i'll be more wary of it in the future.

 

 

but from mynds list (which is where we should be focusing tbh as it will help vet another player or out another scum)

 

i'm lockscum on Despo, lock clear on Womby and waffle on Dap as i haven't gotten a chance to go back and look at him yet.

[Myndrunner]

@Red - Would you agree that it is POSSIBLE that Womby gifted you to make sure you wrote him off as town?

[Red2111]

Why would Despo not question my Dreamer reading or go after one of the other two?  Why did he choose Red instead?

because he's trying to milk his meta but doubling down and tunneling on me Mynd. i've been saying from the get go that i think he's been using his meta as a shield and warning people not to let that clear him.

[Red2111]

@Red - Would you agree that it is POSSIBLE that Womby gifted you to make sure you wrote him off as town?

possible yes (this is mafia after all and i dont know his alignment), probable no.

 

 

my gut is saying go with the later, and i trust my gut.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

[v]Tsuki[/v]

 

case?

 

 

I don't like his chances to be town.  He's put in no effort towards solving the game/finding scum - as far as I can tell, these are his only three posts actually based around the game (other than him fixing a vote).

 

 

Tsuki admits to being off focus and less interested since game began due to family that I don't normally get a chance to see are here.

 

Tsuki is scummy as hell by nature, and has never been vetted or cleared without a stupid amount of work - so, yeah, I howl. Bring it.

 

Tsuki was not targeting Dawn, anymore than I always do. Perhaps if she gets used to a little bit of early pressure (not even a case, just pressure (kinda like a joke vote, in my book)), she'll be less likely to bail, or to jump on this emotrain that I see is getting popular around DM... ugh. Sign up then threaten a quit before 36 hours are up - gross. But, whatever.

 

Appointments to be kept, shall return in 2-3 hours.

 

This post was in response to Lenlo's large post that we went over earlier.  He admits to being scummy as hell, so why is he bothered that he's getting a little bit of pressure?  He certainly isn't one of ones I would expect to actually be lynched based on Lenlo's opinions.

 

 

Lenlo flipped scum though.  Do you think this reads as scum/scum.  I'm pretty null on Tsuki right now.  He just looks openly lazy to me which isn't really alignment indicative.

[WWWwombat]

First of all, BLATANT MISREP ALERT @ emphasized

 

Dap wasn't even close to trying to thunderdome with Lenlo

 

Now, Red clarifies that she thought "thunderdome" meant hardcore casing, but even that isn't true, and honestly doesn't really fit the context she used it in. There's not really anything wrong with casing someone who's silenced- if you case them then act like their lack of a response is scummy, well then obviously there's something wrong with that, but that's not what Dap was doing. He was catching up, and pointing out stuff he thought was significant, and obviously wasn't caught up enough or missed that Lenlo was silenced, but either way he wasn't going into huge "Case Lenlo to get lynched immediately mode"

 

So yeah, BLATANT MISREP there on Red's part

 

Second, let me point out who's defense she is sprinting towards here- Lenlofinger, who happened to flip scum. Did I have a town read on Lenlo? Yes. Oh well, he fooled me. /shrug

 

I never attacked anyone for suspecting him tho. Red did, and she does this multiple times.

 

DO NOT LET HER DOWNPLAY HER CONNECTION TO LENLO FOLKS

 

Lastly, Mynd points out that RTE has a better case on him, and has been talked about by more people (so more info) and that his train is larger, so why not have competing trains between RTE and Tommy? Red responds that me and Tommy are far scummier, but that we could set up tri-trains to include RTE. Basically in my eyes it just makes Red look like SHE is the one who was trying to set up as many lynches as possible, trying to juggle reads to make sure town remembers that Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, and Z are all scummy

 

Also, with Tommy flipping town, my scum read on RTE went down somewhat, so it's very likely that Red wanted to set up three competing trains on three townies. This doesn't automatically make her scum as town!Red has been wrong A LOT in the past, but still worth noting

 

This is the kind of post that makes me think you are scum.  This isn't even a good case at all.  In fact, it's really bad.  You just made it into a wall of text and then highlighted the conclusions you want people to draw with CAPITAL LETTERS.  It's like you're hoping people will skim and assume that "lots of words = good case."

[WWWwombat]

 

2a. Skimming is not scummy. If anything, scum has more to lose than town skimming as they can slip up or be incoherent. Town doesn't have to orchestrate their game.

perhaps scummy wasn't the right word. lazy game play is a better word. and imo Town does have more to lose from skimming townies. the scum has their QT to check and make sure their WIFOM is fact based. a townie is alone. if they skim the thread they miss important info and can not expect to catch scum at all. not only do skimmers hurt the town, because they aren't paying attention they tend to get out of sync with the game, fall behind for need of re-reading and become lurking sheeple votes on wagons which let the scum get an easy win.

 

so no,i disagree. the town has more to lose by having a bunch of skimmers.

 

 

 

2b. I haven't skimmed this thread. I explained why I felt it was random you suddenly wanted to ignore everyone else. You assumed skimming and decided to peg it on me together with claiming it was scummy.

its called focusing. we're 3 RL days into this game. Hoof hasn't set a deadline yet, but typical D1's on DM last around 5 RL days. we only have one lynch, so its time to stop casting a large net and focusing on the slimiest fish to get a decent lynch with info.

 

unless you'd rather no lynch?

 

First quote: #DAT BACKTRACK ROFLMAO

 

So Red says skimming is scummy, then responds to Vos and says that sure, skimming does likely come more from town than scum (completely going against what she previously said) but that skimming townies are antitown

 

So okay, backtracking already puts this post in a bad light

 

But then guess what we get a MISREP ALERT

 

She says she disagrees, town has more to lose by having a bunch of skimmers

 

BUT WAIT A SECOND

 

That's COMPLETELY misconstruing what Vos actually said! He didn't say skimming was good for town, he was just saying that skimming wasn't really in and of itself scummy (which is a valid point imo)!!!

 

So Red gets caught basically, on using terribad reasoning to fos Vos, so then she backtracks and makes it seem like they were arguing about whether or not skimming was good for town. I think you'd be hard freaking pressed to find ANYONE who thinks skimming is actually GOOD for town, so Red just looks like she's completely full of hot air there

 

Second quote: So Vos makes a good point, that Red seemed to want to set up competing trains rather prematurely, ignoring anyone else in favor of JUST focusing on myself and another flipped townie. Red starts talking about how a deadline might come up soon.

 

At that point, there was no deadline.

 

-_________-

 

Vos wasn't saying we needed to cast this big huge net, I think he just took exception with Red trying to prematurely set up two competing trains when there was still a LOT of other significant stuff to look at.

 

Red finished it up by asking him if he's suggesting No Lynch.

 

...

 

 

 

This post doesn't make sense either.  Where do you get a misrep out of Red arguing with Vos over the alignment-correlated detriments of skimming?

[WWWwombat]

 

 

-her "case" against me is just lolbad.

1. linkage of numerous players - lol vague much? Seriously. You even repeat this "scumtell" later, illustrating how forced your case is. But yeah, linking players is NOT a bad thing, or scummy. This game is all about relationships between various players. Me showing the connections I'm seeing shows I'm paying attention

linking players is a bad thing because its you setting up future lynches. you dont clear or condem someone based off another persons actions, it just leaves you open to being played hardcore. and i did point out who you were linking (Darthe & Dawn, you even commented on it)

 

it may show that your not skimming like Vos is; but it also shows you trying to set up future lynches.

 

you're still doign the linkage btw see below for an example or 500.

 

 

2. Setting up future lynches - SHOW ME where I did this Red. I call complete and utter bullshanks

see above.

 

 

3. Distraction stuff with Cory about AtE - uh no, I wasn't trying to distract anyone. Cory is an emotional player, but he's also good at AtE as he showed in a recent game where he won as a SK, but made the game generally less enjoyable for everyone else while doing so. I was trying to keep the game from going that direction again. I failed. /shrug

what happens in another game ha no bearing on this one. from where i stand it looked more like you were capitalizing on Corys emo metl down by making it the focus of the game for multiple pages and pushing actual game content to the background (like the RTE stuff and Wombat going at Cory like that, which still feels forced to me)

 

 

4. linking Darthe and Dawn and saying Darthe was coaching Dawn - here goes that linking thing again lol (seriously, anyone who doesn't see Red's case against me as insanely forced is dumb or scum). Dawn was parroting what everyone else was saying, but her "Your defense isn't good Cory" didn't seem like something derpDawn would say, so I thought she might be being coached, and I remember Darthe giving her an "Attaboy" not too long ago. The point I made wasn't that far fetched, and certainly wasn't scummy

 

and my point was that if Darthe and Dawn are scum together Darthe isn't stupid enough to go coaching her on thread when he has a perfectly good QT to coach her on. and to point this sort of FoS is not only sloppy for you but is also lolreaching.

 

speaking of Dawn, i also noticed that you decided to drop that bone. i dislike it when a person digs in hard on someone then suddenly does an about face. both you and Tsuki have done this on Dawn.

 

I mainly wanted to point out the lolhypocrisy on Red's part here- so she says I'm linking players blahblahblah. Incidentally, linking players (which isn't scummy) is NOT setting up lynches! Setting up lynches is when you try having a predetermined read based on a flip that you're pushing for, in the attempts to then have someone to push the next day. Linking players isn't doing that- it's noting possible connections between players, which is something every townie should do really.

 

Either way, she says I'm scummy for linking players, but she TWICE links players in this post alone! She says the Wombat/Cory thing was forced (a reference to an earlier comment by her that it was a gambit between the two) and then she links me with Tsuki

 

...

 

Step 1: Call someone scummy for linking players

Step 2: Link players yourself

Step 3: Profit?

 

Nope, not in this case Red. You're swinging this game, whether it's while I'm still alive or after I'm dead and have my reads proven to be genuine

 

 

Since when do you care about hypocrisy?

[WWWwombat]

page 90 making my eyes bleed

[WWWwombat]

page 91 making my eyes glaze over then bleed then glaze over

[WWWwombat]

I'd like to point something out apparently everybody has freaking missed.

 

Mynd claimed Dreamer and says there IS scum between Dap, Wombat, and Despo.

 

How are we all not concentrating there right now? 

 

[v]Wombat[/v]

 

This is a good point.  Although it is Mynd we're talking about here.  Don't like the vote though.

[WWWwombat]

 

I'd like to point something out apparently everybody has freaking missed.

 

Mynd claimed Dreamer and says there IS scum between Dap, Wombat, and Despo.

 

How are we all not concentrating there right now? 

 

[v]Wombat[/v]

 

 

Still, this has been entertaining.  Did you catch Dawn slipping in to vote Red?

 

BTW, I think it's really between Despo and Womby at this point.  I'm feeling very townish on Dap.  The one thing that Lenlo did of significance before getting frozen was to make a more than casual case against Dap.  I don't think he would have done that to a fellow scum, especially just before baiting the Mod with the H stuff. 

 

 

Meh.  Lenlo kind of has a perpetual D1 deathwish.  The paranoid part of my brain is thinking he would probably find it amusing the get himself modkilled D1 while bussing a teammate.  That being said, it's unlikely imo.

[WWWwombat]

 

  I'm feeling very townish on Dap.  The one thing that Lenlo did of significance before getting frozen was to make a more than casual case against Dap.  I don't think he would have done that to a fellow scum, especially just before baiting the Mod with the H stuff. 

 

 

Forgot to add this.  The scenes read like Lenlo got silenced for Hastur.  However, Hoof came in with MODSPEAK to specifically point out that he didn't kill Lenlo.  It's still possible scum team has a silencer, although less likely given that Hoof never denied silencing Lenlo.  So Lenlo could have cased Dap and then silenced himself, or it could have been due to mod baiting.  Either way, we don't really know.  Hence, I'm less sold about Dap.

 

Also, H stuff....you should go to Japan and do a google search.  Or just ask people to help you find some...heh.

 

 

It was almost certainly mod-baiting imo.  Why he did it might be WIFOM until postgame though.  We don't even know if he knew what would happen.  All the assumptions that Lenlo silenced himself for towncred are raising my hackles.  No doubt the mafia thought his silencing was a good way to get towncred after the fact, but would they have known it would happen?

[WWWwombat]

 

but i am 100% lockclear on Womby.

 

i'm not sold on Dap being town and it not being an early set up for distancing between the two of them. heavy FoS on anyone suggesting it wasn't. the entire situation is WIFOM, to be certain one way or the other means you have inside info on it.

 

I feel like I could have written this post myself.

[Myndrunner]

 

 

  I'm feeling very townish on Dap.  The one thing that Lenlo did of significance before getting frozen was to make a more than casual case against Dap.  I don't think he would have done that to a fellow scum, especially just before baiting the Mod with the H stuff. 

 

 

Forgot to add this.  The scenes read like Lenlo got silenced for Hastur.  However, Hoof came in with MODSPEAK to specifically point out that he didn't kill Lenlo.  It's still possible scum team has a silencer, although less likely given that Hoof never denied silencing Lenlo.  So Lenlo could have cased Dap and then silenced himself, or it could have been due to mod baiting.  Either way, we don't really know.  Hence, I'm less sold about Dap.

 

Also, H stuff....you should go to Japan and do a google search.  Or just ask people to help you find some...heh.

 

 

It was almost certainly mod-baiting imo.  Why he did it might be WIFOM until postgame though.  We don't even know if he knew what would happen.  All the assumptions that Lenlo silenced himself for towncred are raising my hackles.  No doubt the mafia thought his silencing was a good way to get towncred after the fact, but would they have known it would happen?

 

 

I'm pretty sure the result of what happened to Lenlo was random, kinda like my deal.  It is possible that he had a choice though, like a benefit and a chance at being frozen, kinda like my deal.  Lenlo may have gotten some other kind of benefit in addition to being frozen and had the option to use his gift or not.

[WWWwombat]

Two random people on every lynch train will be able to grant a single random item to a player of their choice (but not themselves). The gifting player is not told what the item is, but the recipient is told who gave them the item. 

 

 

That is how Red would KNOW womby is town - Scum would not give an item to Town.

 

 

Yep.

[WWWwombat]

 

That is how Red would KNOW womby is town - Scum would not give an item to Town.

Really? Or Red and Wombat are both scum. Simplest explanation, really. Always works.

 

 

Except when it doesn't.

[Myndrunner]

Why would Despo not question my Dreamer reading or go after one of the other two?  Why did he choose Red instead?

 

This is where my head is at.  Despo in no way questioned my reading as if I am scum.  He seemed to assume that I was telling the truth and not a LLL.  The only players who know for 100% who is not mafia is the mafia themselves. 

 

If I was a townie who was just grouped with two other scummy-looking players and someone claimed they had a vision that one of us is scum, I would first call bullshanks on that person and then go after the other two.  Despo chose to go after Red instead.  Why is this?  Why did he choose Red instead of Womby or Dap?

 

And Dawn's vote on Red seems like the Sith Apprentice following the master.

[Myndrunner]

This will clinch it for me.

 

Womby, would you say that the gift you gave Red COULD make it possible for Lenlo to have an accident?  You don't have to be specific, but is it possible that you gave Red a gift that could have caused Lenlo's death?

[Myndrunner]

I've been reading Red as town the entire game, but I think I have to change my mind here. She did look like she was defending Lenlo. And that did look like a scumslip to me.

If she flips town, Despo is almost definitely scum. If she flips scum, Despo is definitely town because his reads on Red did NOT seem like distancing.

 

[unvote]

[v]Red[/v]

^ This for reference.  I am not slamming Dawn, but does this sound like a typical Dawn post to you?  Or maybe a coached post?

[WWWwombat]

 

Wombat:  199 posts.

 

I've made the casing a bit more compact, due to amount of posts. I just realized at some point that there's no way I'm doing a complete post by post play of 8 pages of posts lol

 

Anyways.

 

 

Wombat starts off with a couple of fluff posts. Declares himself  lock clear villager by post 3. Places a vote on me, saying I'm rand mafia in his opinion. He points out that the game is weird, that Cory is coming off scummy and that Dap and Darthe are coming off townie. In retrospect, wrong about Cory, right about Darthe. Tells Cory he doesn't care about his meta and that he doesn't like his lolcory moments. Gets a bit aggro with him. He defends RTE and says that in his opinion RTE's OP is null. I've agreed with this, myself. He notes Cory getting rustles over him FOSing Cory. Then comes a series of back and forth with Cory, where he accuses Cory of flipping out at being FOSed. The argument takes a childish 'No u' turn pretty quickly lol  When asked why he thinks the game is being weird, Wombat says that everyone is buddying and not doing much to move the game (this is said like 24 hours into the game). Generally keeps calling Cory out for overreacting to being called scummy. Then he asks Cory what's his read on me and Des. Not really sure why he was particularly interested on his read on us. Seemed a bit random. Then he professes a provisional town lean on Darthe. More exchanges between him and Cory about him overreacting. Gets a bit aggro. Keeps telling Cory he has to calm down.

 

LOL's as Len gets silenced. Some joking around with Des with joke FOSing. More arguing with Cory and calling him emo. Then he asks for a VC and says he's kinda going back and forth between Cory and Des. Seems a bit odd, considering the interaction with Des seemed playful up until now. He says he wants to hear people talk more. That he "feels like leaving Cory alive for now". Ping. He accuses Des of being a brazen scum. Again, a little weird for me that he jumped from playful to full out proclaiming Des to be scum. Then he puts his money where his mouth is, unvotes and votes Des. Considering the time and energy he put into his little face off with Cory, I'm really surprised that his vote ended up going to Des.

 

He lols at Des mentioning Darthe as lock clear town, after he showed his behind. Not sure why he thought it was funny. He himself had a townie read on Darthe earlier. He reinstates that Despo is scum and that RTE, Dawn and Darthe are spewed town. A couple more aggro wtf is your problem with Cory. Then he mentions in passing that Tommy did appear howtrolling to him before. No mention of it in his posts though. But he thinks that it should be left alone for now and that it's better off to go after lock scum Des. This is the second time he puts people he considers scummy on the back burner, to go after Des, the king of scum!. Seems quite anxious to get him lynched. He explains why he intially pushed Cory because of the whole Spurrs talk with Des. He seems convinced one of the two is scum. But then he says that Des' WIM has increased considerably since Cory has been pushed, which made him shift to Des. Fair enough. Then he claimed Des got FROZEN. When asked for his two tops suspects, he says Des and Tommy. He tells Darthe he needs his help to push a Des lynch. Rebuts all of Des' posts by saying he's scum and lol's.

 

He agrees with Pral that Dap might be hiding behind his meta. Most posts of referring to Des' posts as word vomit and takes a general mocking tone without ever bothering to respond to what Des is saying. Agrees with Darthe that Red is towntelling. Calls Despo's post gross, tells him to stop trying to AtE, calls him a dolt, criticizes him for saying honestly twice in a sentence (lol). Gets needlessly aggro, imo. Tommy starts the whole 'play better' speeches at this point. Wombat completely disregards him. He defends Red saying that Des going after her is unwarranted. He goes at Des getting all worked up about Tommy trying to appeal to him while voting for him. Wombat suggests putting more votes on Des. Critisizes Des and says he gets fixated about his reads.

 

At this point there's a shift in the interaction between Tommy and Wombat. Wombat asks Tommy what his read on Des is. He tells Tommy he can trust him barring a recruitment. He says that lately Tommy has been towntelling. What can I say? Love is in the air. He adds that Des seemed pretty scummy, but that he's starting to look more like a psychotic townie. This is the first time that I've seen where Wombat is willing to go back from putting Des in his lockscum list. He asks Darthe for a Des read. Des asks Wombat why he's trying to appeal to someone he considers to be scum. Wombat replies that he has appealed to people he considers scum before and that the responses helped. Okay. Once Mynd dishes out his read list, Wombat says some of it is bad, some of it is good and questions Mynd regarding his RTE and Dap read, asking him if he thinks RTE was bussing.

 

More bla bla with Des. He disses Des' top scum list (Red, Wombat, Tommy, RTE) and says he has, at most, one scum in that list. Defends RTE and says he thinks he's lynchbait. Mentions that Des' WoTs full of nothing is a scum tell. Keeps mocking Des. Eggs Tommy on to mock Des. A lot of unnecessary ridiculing of Des, imo. He keeps flip flopping from having a scum read on tommy, to seeming villagery, but still pointing out he's top tier wolf so you never know. Looks to be that he can't seem to make up his mind and take a stance on him. Points out again that RTE is towntelling. More mocking. One moment he's laughing with Tommy and egging him on to rip Des a new one, the other he's suspicious of him.

 

Mynd raises a theory about Dap possibly knowing something more about Len being silenced. Wombat calls Mynd out on it and says it's obvious what happened to Len from the context, in his opinion. Then suddenly, he unvotes and votes Dap, claiming he's hiding behind competing trains meta and general sliminess. I find this vote odd. He's been spending days riding Tom and Des, only to revert to Dap who he has hardly mentioned. He says he's up for a Dap lynch because everyone is reading him as scum, except Des, which is a good sign. Jumps at Vos' throat when Vos points out that he doesn't get why Wombat was accusing Des of being AtE.

 

Next, Wombat agrees with Mynd about Tommy overplaying scum hunting and buddying up people. So it's back to thinking Tommy is scummy. Then he brings up Tommy giving a lockscum read on Cory early on, saying it was gross. Calls Tommy's read list garbage. Lock clears Darthe (like the third time he does lol). Unvotes, votes Tommy. He says that as soon as Tommy stopped arguing with Des, he started scumtelling again. He does some Tommy dissing and some more dissing of his reads. Then he dares Tommy to have a scum read on someone other than Dap. I don't get what the big deal is here. Wombat himself has a scum read on Dap, but he drops him to juggle tommy again.

 

Suddenly he cuts out the mocking crap with Des and legit asks him if he has any other scum reads that aren't associative other than Tommy. When RTE tries to explain his early reveal, he calls it dumb. There's a general air of misplaced hostility towards everyone, even RTE who he has constantly townread throughout the game. This is around the time Des says on thread that he asked for a replacement. Wombat gets really rustled and tells him to get over himself. Loves on Darthe a bit more. Asks Darthe to assume control. In retrospect possibly because he doesn't want to assume responsibility of a mislynch. Defends RTE  from Darthe. Says on thread, again, that Darthe is his strongest town read. Apparently he want this KNOWN and engraved in our memory forever more. Then out of the blue he says RTE is playing a lot bolder than he usually does. Mmmmm. Soon after he turns on RTE and says he's being emo and AtE. Tells Red to drop it when she's going after Darthe. When Darthe casts a vote on RTE, Wombat says he doesn't like it. More tommy nudging and mocking plus telling Red again to stop getting her panties in a bunch over stuff. I believe it had to do with Darthe bringing up fishy things about Lenlo, while Lenlo is unable to respond.

 

He congratulates a point Des made about RTE ignoring the possibility that Darthe might be scum. Funny, coming from someone who's been town clearing Darthe in his sleep, but okay lol. Then he goes back to dissing Des  and his reasoning LOL  Moves on to dissing Tommy. Says Tommy is going after Dap because he's an easy lynch, even though Wombat himself was going after Des earlier as well. I would assume, for good reasons, right? He also doesn't like Tommy going after Darthe. Later on he chimes in that he started a train on Dap that Tommy followed up on after rereading and realizing that Dap is scummy. He seems to suggest that Tommy was trying to use Dap as a scapegoat. Wombat defends Dap in his back and forth with Tom. More dissess at Tommy's reads. Lock clears Vos. More Tommy mocking. Gets very aggro at this point. Then it's back to pure mock mode. Pointing out that Tommy's read list stinks... again. More soft defending of Dap's inactivity. In reply to Tommy he says "Nice try, but dumping at Des to look town ain't gonna work." So he has a town lean on Des now? Who knows! He gets bored pretty soon and goes back to his new hobby: dissing Tommy. And MOAR.

 

He quotes Mynd and says he doesn't like his comment about the DT being funny with Cory and Tom in it, that it's like a foreshadowing of tommy flipping town. But he gets over it pretty soon and goes back to making fun of Tommy *laughs* More about how opportunistic tommy's read list is. He gets annoyed at RTE later on for self voting.Once Tommy is gone, he's back to riding Des xD  He gets mad at Red's reaction to the whole troll fest.

 

 

 

 

I'm not loving what I'm seeing here. I do expect TownWombat to be fluid and not lock himself into a specific mindset. But his constant read hopping bugs me. Half the time I couldn't really keep up with his current read list because it would constantly change dramatically, as if he he doesn't want to commit to anything to not be held accountable. He's been more than willing to let Darthe take the lead. That doesn't sit well with me either. He's been unnecessarily aggressive, dismissive and downright rude, when it was quite obvious that he wasn't with agreement with some people. He didn't need that attitude to get his point across. I love Wombat's quips and sarcasm, but I'm not seeing it here. I see serious trolling and misplaced aggro, which is what I've come to expect from ScumWombat.

 

 

 

Vote Wombat

 

 

 

I like your summary, but I don't like the conclusion.  How does being aggressive and inconstant on D1 make me scum?

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This will clinch it for me.

 

Womby, would you say that the gift you gave Red COULD make it possible for Lenlo to have an accident?  You don't have to be specific, but is it possible that you gave Red a gift that could have caused Lenlo's death?

 

Yes.

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