[Advanced] Blackhoof's Cthulhu Mythos Mafia Game- Day 1

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

 

 

@RED

Vote Tommy

@Dawn

Vote Tommy

@Dap 

Vote Tommy

@Mynd

Vote Tommy

@Tsuki

Die in a fire scum

@Len

Do something useful or positive

@Vos 

Vote Tommy

@Every non'reader

GFY

 

Goin full OLD DARTHE on this game.  

 

 

bold - dude he's silenced viw Mod Conformation.  sever pingage for that

 

 

i went all "ooo squirrel" on RTE and stopped my catch up.  before i even think of taking your words into consideration imma need to catch up first.  we now have a deadline and its far enough away that we still dont need to speed lynch even if i do decide to go with your idea.

 

 

tbh given you on thread bromance with Despo and tommy's recent play it makes me not want to trsut you one iota DartheVadar

 

 

Wouldn't know that Len was silenced but that's a frankly idiotic thing to ping someone over anyhow.  God that's annoying to even read.  You, don't do crazy things.  It's how you screwed up the last few games.  Lynch Tommy, if I'm wrong lynch me.  Don't sway on it a damn bit.  I staked my town cred on this lynch.  

 

 

You didn't even know Len was silenced and you want us to follow your lead here and vote on your word?

 

Whut? Seriously? Do you know Cory/Hallia got modkilled? Do you know Despo is a crybaby? Do you know Dawn is going camping?

 

How do we know what you have read and haven't since you didn't even know Len was silenced? Where did you think he was? Vacation? 

 

Your arguments are weak but sure, let's go with this.  LOGICAL EXTREMISM:

 

I now know Len was silenced but did not before since, as I said yesterday, I've missed quite a few pages between 30 and here.  I've been popping in since my WIM died and trying to get back into it so I have sporadic coverage of the past 12 pages or so.  Your other arguments (not you, your arguments) are so stupid that I wouldn't use them to wipe my ass.  Being unaware of a single thing in the game doesn't dictate that I am not aware of the game.  By this logic you should be condemned for your vote on DAP.  After all, DO YOU NOT KNOW that he is town?  Maybe you do, you seem to not care either way.  The point being that it is ultimately irellevant if I have missed a few pages.  What I have seen in the 95% of the game I've read is enough to tell me who is and isn't scum just the same as everyone else is making decisions without having read pages that haven't been written yet.  It's less informed, not uninformed.

 

Also, I feel the need to include something important for everyone in a second paragraph.  My memory is foggy but didn't RTE follow Tommy on Cory?  If he did then this locks them as scum together since Tommy had only read 4/20 pages, the equivalent of 20% of the game.  Selective arguments are one of the biggest global scum-tells in existence and one that typically only comes into play in late game because of how intensive it is.

 

 

Nope. More misrep and mistakes Darthe. Keep up the good work though!

 

 

Kinda feel like RTE is playing way bolder than usual.

[WWWwombat]

 

PLEASE NOTE: RTE's LAST TWO POSTS ARE NOT ABOUT THE GAME AT ALL BUT ARE ATTACKS ON MY CHARACTER MEANT TO WEAKEN MY CREDIBILITY.  THEY SERVE NO OTHER PURPOSE, ANOTHER SCUMTELL USED TO WEAKEN POWER TOWNIES THAT ARE GENERALLY UNTOUCHABLE OTHERWISE

 

What, did I hurt your feelings?

 

Maybe you can ask the mod to replace you too?

 

 

Lol seriously?  You complained about the emo calling this the worst game you'd seen in a while and now you're coming with this crap?

[Tommyrod]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@RED

Vote Tommy

@Dawn

Vote Tommy

@Dap

Vote Tommy

@Mynd

Vote Tommy

@Tsuki

Die in a fire scum

@Len

Do something useful or positive

@Vos

Vote Tommy

@Every non'reader

GFY

 

Goin full OLD DARTHE on this game.

 

bold - dude he's silenced viw Mod Conformation. sever pingage for that

 

 

i went all "ooo squirrel" on RTE and stopped my catch up. before i even think of taking your words into consideration imma need to catch up first. we now have a deadline and its far enough away that we still dont need to speed lynch even if i do decide to go with your idea.

 

 

tbh given you on thread bromance with Despo and tommy's recent play it makes me not want to trsut you one iota DartheVadar

Wouldn't know that Len was silenced but that's a frankly idiotic thing to ping someone over anyhow. God that's annoying to even read. You, don't do crazy things. It's how you screwed up the last few games. Lynch Tommy, if I'm wrong lynch me. Don't sway on it a damn bit. I staked my town cred on this lynch.

You didn't even know Len was silenced and you want us to follow your lead here and vote on your word?

 

Whut? Seriously? Do you know Cory/Hallia got modkilled? Do you know Despo is a crybaby? Do you know Dawn is going camping?

 

How do we know what you have read and haven't since you didn't even know Len was silenced? Where did you think he was? Vacation?

Your arguments are weak but sure, let's go with this. LOGICAL EXTREMISM:

 

I now know Len was silenced but did not before since, as I said yesterday, I've missed quite a few pages between 30 and here. I've been popping in since my WIM died and trying to get back into it so I have sporadic coverage of the past 12 pages or so. Your other arguments (not you, your arguments) are so stupid that I wouldn't use them to wipe my ass. Being unaware of a single thing in the game doesn't dictate that I am not aware of the game. By this logic you should be condemned for your vote on DAP. After all, DO YOU NOT KNOW that he is town? Maybe you do, you seem to not care either way. The point being that it is ultimately irellevant if I have missed a few pages. What I have seen in the 95% of the game I've read is enough to tell me who is and isn't scum just the same as everyone else is making decisions without having read pages that haven't been written yet. It's less informed, not uninformed.

 

Also, I feel the need to include something important for everyone in a second paragraph. My memory is foggy but didn't RTE follow Tommy on Cory? If he did then this locks them as scum together since Tommy had only read 4/20 pages, the equivalent of 20% of the game. Selective arguments are one of the biggest global scum-tells in existence and one that typically only comes into play in late game because of how intensive it is.

Nope. More misrep and mistakes Darthe. Keep up the good work though!

Kinda feel like RTE is playing way bolder than usual.

In a scummy way or a townish way? This statement is vague as hell.

[WWWwombat]

*snorts @ Darthe*  since when is it good form or logical to request a silenced player to ...  and i quote ....  "Do something useful or positive"

 

the guy LITERALLY CANNOT POST

 

Red.  Drop it.  Please.

[Darthe]

Darthe, on a serious note, why shouldn't I just scream my head off for you to be lynched after me if I was to get lynched?

 

I am going to flip town. What's your next move?

I'll humor you on this once (despite you having asked me before as scum).  If you somehow manage to flip town I am going to go on to RTE most likely and Red will fall on my list a lot and I'll likely reread your interpretations of peoples' play, corroborate them with those of Cory early game and reassess.  Ya know, like a logical being.

[WWWwombat]

 

Should we start a tally of how many things Darthe has gotten wrong this game?

BLATANT SCUM SLIP

 

How would you KNOW if I got anything wrong?  It's D1.  

 

[v] unvote vote RTE [/v]

 

@Tommy, comin at you tomorrow, this lynch is #locked

 

 

Don't like this.

[Darthe]

 

*snorts @ Darthe*  since when is it good form or logical to request a silenced player to ...  and i quote ....  "Do something useful or positive"

 

the guy LITERALLY CANNOT POST

 

Red.  Drop it.  Please.

 

I wasn't the only one who thought that dumb?  I didn't even attack the guy I just wanted him to step his game up.  

[Tommyrod]

 

 

Darthe, on a serious note, why shouldn't I just scream my head off for you to be lynched after me if I was to get lynched?

 

I am going to flip town. What's your next move?

I'll humor you on this once (despite you having asked me before as scum). If you somehow manage to flip town I am going to go on to RTE most likely and Red will fall on my list a lot and I'll likely reread your interpretations of peoples' play, corroborate them with those of Cory early game and reassess. Ya know, like a logical being.

I REALLY think you're gonna head in the wrong direction if you do that.

 

Red is town. Seriously, lock it in.

 

I sincerely believe RTE is town as well, especially with constant pressure on him that never dies, yet people let Dap slip to the sidelines over and over.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

Just lol

 

Moving on... I've read about 20% of the thread.

 

I'd really like it if everyone lists their top 2 scum leans with brief explanations for why.

Despo - Read teh thread

Tommy - Howtroll

Tommy mebbe this is why Wombat aint conversing with you?

 

/shrug

 

And yeah, just looks like Wombat going with Red re: setting up Tommy and me thunderdome to distance and stuff.

 

But I dunno, I could be mortal after all and Red wanted to set up a thunderdome with two townies, and Wombat followed her up on it. If it wasn't for Tommy's last three pages I'd have an easier time believing that. Wombat's tunnel on me is making him look scummier by the post

 

But, if I'm right about all dem, then again, I guess this is scum's best idea of #DAMAGE CONTROL

I don't even know what "Howltrolling" means but it sounds like a buzzword invented to replace having to make an ACTUAL read on me.

 

Wombat, care to explain?

I made it up. It's like I was getting the same vibes I was getting from you in the House game and the Red Wedding game. You were being blatantly wolfish to troll some people while being just villagery enough to not get lynched. Kinda hard to explain cuz it's gut. I'm not getting the feeling from your recent posts, but I know you're Top Tier Wolf, so it's pretty hard to back off that read.

Darthe: check out pages 33-36. Observe our conversation and how the two of us appear to be getting along and going back and forth. His entire reason for not clearing me at the time was "I'm a good wolf." He says it himself in the post above.

 

He never actually backed up his statements about me being trollish. I figured he had moved on so I didn't press for more.

 

Now would be a good chance to explain, Wombat.

 

Who are your top three and bottom three.  Soul read, go.

[WWWwombat]

 

Dap is clear town and you already got a townie killed with your pushes when you hadn't even read the game. I'm never going to let a single townie take the fall for someone I am damn sure to be scum and why would I? That entire line of reasoning is a fabrication from you, one I know from experience. Nyn can be forgiven for her ignorance on the matter but you don't fool me anymore Tommy and I am NOT going to play to it. Your reads are crap, your methods are opportunistic and conceived around whatever will get a lynch and your tone is off, has been since Cory threw you with that suicide. The immensely veteran players pushing for your lynch didn't come to the conclusion that you are scum without reason. We know your game now.

Let's start small.

 

How is down "clear town?" I quoted one of his really bad posts that I broke down and showed it to you again. You ignored it. So the onus is now on you to show us why Dap is clear town.

 

Good luck!

 

 

bad != scum

 

Selfless Mafia 101

[Darthe]

 

 

Darthe, on a serious note, why shouldn't I just scream my head off for you to be lynched after me if I was to get lynched?

 

I am going to flip town. What's your next move?

I'll humor you on this once (despite you having asked me before as scum). If you somehow manage to flip town I am going to go on to RTE most likely and Red will fall on my list a lot and I'll likely reread your interpretations of peoples' play, corroborate them with those of Cory early game and reassess. Ya know, like a logical being.

I REALLY think you're gonna head in the wrong direction if you do that.

 

Red is town. Seriously, lock it in.

 

I sincerely believe RTE is town as well, especially with constant pressure on him that never dies, yet people let Dap slip to the sidelines over and over.

 

Are you crapping me?  RTE disappears every single time he gets pressure.  Take the blinders off, dudes blatant scum.

[WWWwombat]

 

PLEASE NOTE: RTE's LAST TWO POSTS ARE NOT ABOUT THE GAME AT ALL BUT ARE ATTACKS ON MY CHARACTER MEANT TO WEAKEN MY CREDIBILITY. THEY SERVE NO OTHER PURPOSE, ANOTHER SCUMTELL USED TO WEAKEN POWER TOWNIES THAT ARE GENERALLY UNTOUCHABLE OTHERWISE

Well, to be fair -- you are acting like a huge buffoon right now. You're character assassinating yourself more than anyone else is.

 

But you know that.

 

 

Typical anti-Darthe rhetoric imo.

 

 

yes its ping worthy to attacka  player who CANNOT DEFEND THEMSELVES!!

 

 

you want to go after Len for his vote on Dap.  by all means do it.  but do it when he can post back. 

 

 

no one likes the silence roles or post restrictions for this reason and anyone who uses a player being silenced to their advantage is rightly called out for it.

 

Is Darthe voting Lenlo right now?  No?  Then why are you still pushing this?

[WWWwombat]

 

 

Dap is clear town and you already got a townie killed with your pushes when you hadn't even read the game. I'm never going to let a single townie take the fall for someone I am damn sure to be scum and why would I? That entire line of reasoning is a fabrication from you, one I know from experience. Nyn can be forgiven for her ignorance on the matter but you don't fool me anymore Tommy and I am NOT going to play to it. Your reads are crap, your methods are opportunistic and conceived around whatever will get a lynch and your tone is off, has been since Cory threw you with that suicide. The immensely veteran players pushing for your lynch didn't come to the conclusion that you are scum without reason. We know your game now.

Let's start small.

 

How is down "clear town?" I quoted one of his really bad posts that I broke down and showed it to you again. You ignored it. So the onus is now on you to show us why Dap is clear town.

 

Good luck!

Please answer IN DETAIL.

 

 

You keep saying this like everyone except for you should have a huge burden of proof.  I don't get it.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just lol

 

Moving on... I've read about 20% of the thread.

 

I'd really like it if everyone lists their top 2 scum leans with brief explanations for why.

Despo - Read teh thread

Tommy - Howtroll

Tommy mebbe this is why Wombat aint conversing with you?

 

/shrug

 

And yeah, just looks like Wombat going with Red re: setting up Tommy and me thunderdome to distance and stuff.

 

But I dunno, I could be mortal after all and Red wanted to set up a thunderdome with two townies, and Wombat followed her up on it. If it wasn't for Tommy's last three pages I'd have an easier time believing that. Wombat's tunnel on me is making him look scummier by the post

 

But, if I'm right about all dem, then again, I guess this is scum's best idea of #DAMAGE CONTROL

I don't even know what "Howltrolling" means but it sounds like a buzzword invented to replace having to make an ACTUAL read on me.

 

Wombat, care to explain?

I made it up. It's like I was getting the same vibes I was getting from you in the House game and the Red Wedding game. You were being blatantly wolfish to troll some people while being just villagery enough to not get lynched. Kinda hard to explain cuz it's gut. I'm not getting the feeling from your recent posts, but I know you're Top Tier Wolf, so it's pretty hard to back off that read.

Darthe: check out pages 33-36. Observe our conversation and how the two of us appear to be getting along and going back and forth. His entire reason for not clearing me at the time was "I'm a good wolf." He says it himself in the post above.

 

He never actually backed up his statements about me being trollish. I figured he had moved on so I didn't press for more.

 

Now would be a good chance to explain, Wombat.

Who are your top three and bottom three. Soul read, go.

Almost certainly town, my lock town soul reads:

Red

Dawn

Tsuki

Vos

 

 

Most likely scum:

Dap

You

Wombat

 

After that it gets fuzzy.

 

I have many more confident town leans than confident scum leans, but that's O.K.

 

I don't need to solve the entire game on D1, I just need to find the best lynch. I REALLY think it's Dap.

[WWWwombat]

Darthe is right RTE, you did just claim scum

 

Scummers that fall for the trap of "Look how many times this guy has been wrong" make me laugh.

 

Expose yourself moar scum team, please and thanks. Mebbe eventually it will be enough for them to wake up and see what Darthe and I already do

 

You used to use that line on me 100% of the time regardless of alignment.  Just sayin'.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

 

 

Darthe, on a serious note, why shouldn't I just scream my head off for you to be lynched after me if I was to get lynched?

 

I am going to flip town. What's your next move?

I'll humor you on this once (despite you having asked me before as scum). If you somehow manage to flip town I am going to go on to RTE most likely and Red will fall on my list a lot and I'll likely reread your interpretations of peoples' play, corroborate them with those of Cory early game and reassess. Ya know, like a logical being.

I REALLY think you're gonna head in the wrong direction if you do that.

 

Red is town. Seriously, lock it in.

 

I sincerely believe RTE is town as well, especially with constant pressure on him that never dies, yet people let Dap slip to the sidelines over and over.

Are you crapping me? RTE disappears every single time he gets pressure. Take the blinders off, dudes blatant scum.

Dude -- you're saying the same thing to me about RTE that I'm saying about Dap! Except Dap sounds INFINITELY more guilty and self conscious! He makes excuses in every creaking post he makes. Where is he now? He said he would have lots of free time as of yesterday.

 

At least RTE isn't pulling punches. He's sassy, he's active. His OP was meh but it wasn't the lock scum event lots of you appear to be insisting it was.

[WWWwombat]

 

Lol what are Darthe and Despo going to say when I flip town AGAIN?

 

Despo should just concede to not being able to read me. Period.

Oh look, RTE claiming scum again.

 

RTE, did you forget you were supposed to still think o might be scum?

 

 

Great point here actually.  RTE completely ignoring the possibility that Darthe is scum seems pretty sketch given all the back and forth.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

 

Lol what are Darthe and Despo going to say when I flip town AGAIN?

 

Despo should just concede to not being able to read me. Period.

Oh look, RTE claiming scum again.

 

RTE, did you forget you were supposed to still think o might be scum?

Great point here actually. RTE completely ignoring the possibility that Darthe is scum seems pretty sketch given all the back and forth.

This isn't a thing. I talk to people like they are town even if I think they are scum.

[WWWwombat]

And Tommy, Dap is LOCK CLEAR town because of Red's scummy scummy misrep of him.

 

But oh wait you're acting like she's def town

 

 

Terrible reason to LOCK CLEAR someone.  Skill up.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

And Tommy, Dap is LOCK CLEAR town because of Red's scummy scummy misrep of him.

 

But oh wait you're acting like she's def town

 

Terrible reason to LOCK CLEAR someone. Skill up.

It's just STUPID. Red isn't scum. So dap is lock clear because red is town? Okay Des. Great job.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

And Tommy, Dap is LOCK CLEAR town because of Red's scummy scummy misrep of him.

 

But oh wait you're acting like she's def town

 

She probably is town...

Nope. Reread her and watch how she fabricates a scum read on Tommy, then tries leading town into setting up competing trains on the two of us, then starts acting like every post has her more and more convinced that Tommy is town after all.

 

Obvious scummates bro.

 

 

Red fabricates scum reads on everyone.  It's what she does.

[Darthe]

I agree that Des is way off on Red btw and that she is more likely to be right about him than he is to be right about her.  That said I still have him as more town based on my own personal reads.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

And Tommy, Dap is LOCK CLEAR town because of Red's scummy scummy misrep of him.

 

But oh wait you're acting like she's def town

 

A townie talking about another player doesn't clear anyone, what are you even talking about?

 

You don't KNOW Red is scum. If you do and are a day cop or something, then you should claim that. Otherwise, shut up. Red reads as her genuine annoying absolutely batshit insane town self in this game and is going hard as a bulldog at a bone festival. Your scum read on her is extremely likely to be wrong or simply fabricated.

 

If you REALLY want to leave the game we can lynch you instead, but I still think you can play better and act like a reasonable person. Up to you.

If all you're going to say all game is that I'm terrible at mafia and blah blah blah, just know I will never play mafia with you again. I don't care if you're scum, this is just bs disrespectful crap that you should have elevated past long ago

 

I'm legit pretty good at mafia, and completely caught you and most of your team. Whine on the QT all you want about it, but continuing to disparage my play is just going to lead to me blacklisting you

Des: Jesus Christ. I am not mafia.

 

Do you understand those four basic words?

 

So your reads CANT BE GOOD and you can't "catch my team" when I'm town!

 

I think Darthe is playing you HARD right now and you need to stop having a pity party and choose:

 

1. Lynch Dap.

2. Lynch Darthe.

3. Lynch yourself.

 

That's it, those are your options.

 

Which do you think is MOST LIKELY to be the most +EV play for town?

 

And don't dodge me please.

 

 

By most +EV do you mean least -EV?

 

#REKT

[Tommyrod]

I agree that Des is way off on Red btw and that she is more likely to be right about him than he is to be right about her. That said I still have him as more town based on my own personal reads.

So we agree on both of them! Hooray. Hate you.

[WWWwombat]

Also, just an aside while I'm catching up, Tommy is playing 100% defense at this point in the thread.  The only people he pushes are Dap (who he sees as an easy lynch imo) and Darthe (for obvious reasons).