SCOOBY GAME THREAD - TOWN WINS

[Mafia-19]

I just woke up and needed to post that cos I thought I'd die

I'm reading now

[Mafia-19]

 

One thing that would make sense to me is if Witch is Fred.  Then getting new abilities that could be stolen night after night would fit with, well, having abilities stolen night after night.

That's not how it happened. The role was actually slip streamed to me because my night action wasn't seen until DPR had already started sending out night action results [including WD's]. Instead of taking the Watcher Role from WD after the fact - as was assumed - he gave me a Watcher Role and let WD keep his as well.

 

The issue I have with this is I replaced. He made me a new Role PM and list of actions. The previous WD hadn't revealed on thread

Just taking it away from me would of corrected that mistake completely and no one would of known it had ever existed

 

 

 

Why not just take WD's away?

You would have to ask the mod. My understanding is because he had already sent WD his night results.

See but he hadn't. He may if send the old WD one but I got new PMs

[Mafia-6]

skeleton has low post counts cause he has been away for days and is still having home problems.

 

I recieved the pm but that double check link wont open for me.

 

I sm trying to catch up now but can someone   who is NOT wax or Mantis please tell me at what point those two were MOD confirmed on thread? Cause I am concerned about them running this idea. Mantis has already proven to be a liar in this game and I would not put it past DPR to play around having one suit town one suit not town. If it is confirmed on thread  fine 

[Mafia-10]

WD, can you just ask the mod about the night 2 actions too? For clarification.

[Mafia-10]

@SKELETON

 

Confirmed town - Short version:

 

WAX = WEREWOLF (played by the same person - confirmed by both)

MANTIS = JAGUARO (played by the same person - confirmed by both)

 

WEREWOLF and JAGUARO flipped as town.

 

PM reveal

 

If the txt doesn't open for you, we can just copy the contents into a PM. Right now it's very empty cause we haven't your claims yet.

It's just a plaintext file hosted on dropbox.

 

I'm taking off for the weekend now (will have some net access every now and then, but usually not). If you send me the actions in 10 mins I can update it for you.

[Mafia-19]

I have but no reply as of yet

[Mafia-10]

@MOD: Can you confirm that if two suits are played by the same player, they have the same win condition? 

@MOD: Can you confirm that a player's win condition doesn't change upon one of his suits dying?

 

@MOD: Can you confirm that a player's win condition can't change once he died?

@MOD: Can you confirm that if two suits are played by the same player, the death of one of the suits have no effect on the other suit?

[DPR]

Current Vote Count

 

Witch Doc (6) - Ghost, Sharky, Tar, Witch, Cat, Phantom

Heap (5) - Ghost, Mantis, Sharky, Cutler, Tar

Tar (5) - Kook, Coffin, Cutler, Hyde, Phantom

Sharky (3 ) - Mantis, Coffin, Wax

Skeleton (1) - Wax

 

With 21 players, it takes 11 to lynch.

 

10,000 (-)

 

Zombie (5) - Mantis, Tar, Ghost, Heap, Witch, Cat, Phantom, Kook, Coffin, Cutler, Hyde, Creeper - ZOMBIE IS RELEASED

 

Miner (5) - Mantis, Tar, Ghost, Heap, Witch, Cat, Phantom, Kook, Coffin, Cutler, Hyde, Creeper - MINER IS RELEASED

[DPR]

@Mod will you please confirm that there were no mod mistakes involving Witch Doctor and his Watcher role on Nights 2 and 3?

 

Confirmed.

 

 

 

Why I'm Voting Creepy Heap:

 

@Creepy Heap - Please confirm in thread that you holstered Night 1 and started with a Tracker role

 

@Ghost - Please confirm in thread that you attempted to steal from Creepy Heap on Night 1 and got nothing

 

We got a few other discrepancies like this, but we need more info. Note that this is not proof in itself (someone else could have stolen it).

 

@MOD: Will you confirm on thread how it is determined which player gets the goodies if two or more players try to steal from the same player (and he does have soemthing)?

 

 

Timestamp.

 

 

 

So what's up with WD now? I'm quite busy but I still can't see how it adds up.

 

MANTIS stole a watcher from WD N2. (confirmed town and there is no question of messing up the nights because he had no action N1 and holstered N3)

SPACE KOOK claims that he stole a watcher from WD N3.

WD claims that he holstered N2/N3 and that his watcher has been stolen on N3.

 

How is that possible?

An extra role was slipstreamed in there.  Mod confirmed.

 

 

Confirmed.

 

There was some confusion as to the ability to steal. An action was turned in the day after the night it should have been turned in. I am notoriously lenient when it comes to confusion on the player's part and did grant the action with no penalty to either player involved. When setups are complicated, I will nearly always agree with the player if they are genuinely confused.

 

@MOD: Can you confirm that if two suits are played by the same player, they have the same win condition? 

@MOD: Can you confirm that a player's win condition doesn't change upon one of his suits dying?

 

@MOD: Can you confirm that a player's win condition can't change once he died?

@MOD: Can you confirm that if two suits are played by the same player, the death of one of the suits have no effect on the other suit?

 

PAFO

Confirmed

 

That doesn't even make sense.

PAFO

[DPR]

Couple of other points of interest:

 

Please use and enjoy the PMing to your benefits, but do not use it to unnecessarily harass each other. Keep it cool.

 

I have been asked about the possibilities of several methods of cheating or wrongdoing. Simply put, it is not happening. I do watch for that kind of thing and would immediately modkill anyone who played outside the spirit of the game. However, I have seen no play whatsoever that falls into this category. All is well.

 

If anyone feels that something outside the spirit of the game does occur, PM ME FIRST. I'll take it from there.

 

Party on.

[Mafia-10]

PTERODACTYL: Could you please go through your actions, clarify them with the mod if needed and tell us the exact results for each day and night? 

Something doesn't add up with your action and one other players' and I'd like them clarified for 100% before laying out the details.

 

CREEPY HEAP: Could you please go through your actions, clarify them with the mod if needed and tell us the exact results for each day and night? 

Something doesn't add up with your action and one other players' and I'd like them clarified for 100% before laying out the details.

 

DEMON SHARK: The same, except you never even sent your actions. Please do send them asap. There is a likely discrepancy between your action and two other players' actions. Nothing's sure, but giving us your action might result in catching scum. You can claim on thread if you wish.

 

SKELETON: We absolutely do need your actions. Come on man, we can't piece the puzzles together without you.

 

10000 VOLT: Please be more detailed, you said we would talk today.

 

Everyone:

1) We are looking for a tracker steal on N2. No one seems to want to take credit.

2) Could someone go through CHARLIE ROBOT's stuff, or give us information on what he claimed. If anyone had been in PM contact with him, we'd be glad if you added us to the conversation. The same goes for SNOW BEAST. If you told any of you anything that might be of use, please do share it.

 

Thanks in advance.

[Mafia-10]

@MOD: Can we have a deadline please? Hopefully one that's longer because of the weekend lull, say on tuesday or something?

[Mafia-13]

Wax - do you mean Snow Beast? I'm still alive and have been in tons of contact with you.

[Mafia-10]

I do mean SNOW BEAST, will edit now.

[Mafia-10]

Just to clarify. You are allowed to share PM's as long as you are alive yourself, that's how I understood it anyway. I asked DPR about it as soon as I got my cop view on TAR, because it gives interesting options. For instance, I created a PM thread with him asap so that he can prove that I have cop viewed him even if I got killed without revealing it.

 

@MOD: Can you confirm that players are allowed to share their PM conversations with other players in the game anytime they'd like to, regardless of whether the other participants agreed to it, or if they're even alive in the game?

[Mafia-11]

I appologize for not being active. I just don´t have the energy to re-read the thread and be involved. I´m trying to help Wax and Mantis the best I can and I´m here to vote.

 

I don´t understand why some people don´t send thier na´s to them. Those who don´t should be lynched.

[Mafia-13]

vote Demon Shark

[Mafia-17]

@MOD: Can we have a deadline please? Hopefully one that's longer because of the weekend lull, say on tuesday or something?

 

We already have a deadline.

 

Sometime on Monday evening IIRC.

[DPR]

Just to clarify. You are allowed to share PM's as long as you are alive yourself, that's how I understood it anyway. I asked DPR about it as soon as I got my cop view on TAR, because it gives interesting options. For instance, I created a PM thread with him asap so that he can prove that I have cop viewed him even if I got killed without revealing it.

 

@MOD: Can you confirm that players are allowed to share their PM conversations with other players in the game anytime they'd like to, regardless of whether the other participants agreed to it, or if they're even alive in the game?

 

Anyone can PM anyone, with anything, unless the recipient notifies the sender that they do not want to be PM'd. The recipients wishes must be honored.

[Mafia-7]

Just got a PM from DPR.  N1 I stole from Heap.

[Mafia-3]

Time to get movin'

 

vote Witch Doc

vote Creepy Heap

[Mafia-7]

skeleton has low post counts cause he has been away for days and is still having home problems.

 

I recieved the pm but that double check link wont open for me.

 

I sm trying to catch up now but can someone   who is NOT wax or Mantis please tell me at what point those two were MOD confirmed on thread? Cause I am concerned about them running this idea. Mantis has already proven to be a liar in this game and I would not put it past DPR to play around having one suit town one suit not town. If it is confirmed on thread  fine 

 

In this game there are people who get multiple accounts.  Both accounts being controlled by the same person means that if one account is lynched and comes up town, then the other account is also town.  Both Wax and Mantis had multiple accounts and both of them were lynched town, hence we know Wax and Mantis are town.

[Mafia-3]

Technically, the other account doesn't have an alignment.  At least that's the way it works with mine.

 

It's not impossible for the suit to have a slightly different win condition, but it is impossible for the suit to be anti-town imo as that would not only be bastard modding but would open up a whole slew of issues about making people play to win conidition.

[Mafia-9]

 

Shark, you'd have to matter for me to actually register your opinion. 

 

:(

 

sad face

 

Tough love, baby.

 

 

Creepy Heap claims he started with a Tracker role. 

Creepy Heap claims he holstered N1. 

Ghost claims he tried to steal from Creepy Heap. 

Ghost didn't steal a Tracker role that should have been available. 

Creepy Heap claims he tried to steal from Demon Shark N2 and got nothing. 

Creepy Heap claims he finally used his Tracker role - which wasn't stolen and which he didn't steal - on Demon Shark on N3.

 

I'm inclined to believe Ghost. I think Creepy Heap might have hoped that with claiming to holster and claiming to have targeted a player that isn't willing to share his night actions... that he might avoid discrepancies popping up.

 

I'll place my second vote on Creepy Heap.

[Mafia-2]

unvote Creepy, Vote Tar