Am I the only one who that that Rand and Galad being brothers would play a part?

[Clouded]

I never thought Galad would have a major role just because he is related to the dragon. He has had much fewer view points than many other characters, and we didn't hear from him very often. I understand how being related to the Dragon Reborn feels like it should be significant, but giving him a meaty part in the stopping/starting the end of the world feels like it would be wasted on a minor character.

[thisguy]

Well, he ends up with Berelain, so being the half brother of the Dragon Reborn has its privileges. ;)

[Darksmoon]

Galad and Rand's relationship has played a very small role in the books and I don't see that changing.

[Dagon Thyne]

There is this - Galahad received a vision of the Grail in Arthurian legend. He was the perfect knight and the only one to come as far in finding the Grail for Arthur. Now, the Grail was used to catch the blood of Christ. Rand is a Christ figure. Rand's blood needs to be shed on the rocks of Shayol Ghul. That doesn't necessarily mean that Rand needs to be there if his blood is somehow brought there:

 

"Twice dawns the day when his blood is shed.

Once for mourning, once for birth.

Red on black, the Dragon’s blood stains the rock of Shayol Ghul.

In the Pit of Doom shall his blood free men from the Shadow. ^[5]

His blood on the rocks of Shayol Ghul,

washing away the Shadow, sacrifice for man’s salvation. ^[22]"

 

^{Perhaps, Galad will bring it or even stab Rand so that it happens - he does whatever is the right thing to do no matter the consequence.}

 

Actually the Gail was the cup used in the last supper, the one that held the wine. the bible is not clear on whether this was the same one that was used to catch his actual blood

it's part of the Grail myths, not the Bible.

 

The actual grail myths place it as the cup from the last supper. Only the Authurian legends claim it was the cup that was used to collect his blood.

There is this - Galahad received a vision of the Grail in Arthurian legend. He was the perfect knight and the only one to come as far in finding the Grail for Arthur. Now, the Grail was used to catch the blood of Christ. Rand is a Christ figure. Rand's blood needs to be shed on the rocks of Shayol Ghul. That doesn't necessarily mean that Rand needs to be there if his blood is somehow brought there:

 

"Twice dawns the day when his blood is shed.

Once for mourning, once for birth.

Red on black, the Dragon’s blood stains the rock of Shayol Ghul.

In the Pit of Doom shall his blood free men from the Shadow. ^[5]

His blood on the rocks of Shayol Ghul,

washing away the Shadow, sacrifice for man’s salvation. ^[22]"

 

^{Perhaps, Galad will bring it or even stab Rand so that it happens - he does whatever is the right thing to do no matter the consequence.}

 

Actually the Gail was the cup used in the last supper, the one that held the wine. the bible is not clear on whether this was the same one that was used to catch his actual blood

it's part of the Grail myths, not the Bible.

 

The actual grail myths place it as the cup from the last supper. Only the Authurian legends claim it was the cup that was used to collect his blood.

The Holy Grail myth comes over a milennia after Christ. Most believe the story of Perceval to be its origin. Perceval is a knight of the round table.

The Knights of the Round table were a myth themselves.

 

The grail myth started centuries before the Authurian legends cam about. There were legends about the healing power that drinking from the cup from the last supper had, and the spear of destiny, and many other things associated with christ way before then. People has been searching for the holy grail for hundreds of years before it became popular with the authurian legends.

[thisguy]

There is this - Galahad received a vision of the Grail in Arthurian legend. He was the perfect knight and the only one to come as far in finding the Grail for Arthur. Now, the Grail was used to catch the blood of Christ. Rand is a Christ figure. Rand's blood needs to be shed on the rocks of Shayol Ghul. That doesn't necessarily mean that Rand needs to be there if his blood is somehow brought there:

 

"Twice dawns the day when his blood is shed.

Once for mourning, once for birth.

Red on black, the Dragon’s blood stains the rock of Shayol Ghul.

In the Pit of Doom shall his blood free men from the Shadow. ^[5]

His blood on the rocks of Shayol Ghul,

washing away the Shadow, sacrifice for man’s salvation. ^[22]"

 

^{Perhaps, Galad will bring it or even stab Rand so that it happens - he does whatever is the right thing to do no matter the consequence.}

 

Actually the Gail was the cup used in the last supper, the one that held the wine. the bible is not clear on whether this was the same one that was used to catch his actual blood

it's part of the Grail myths, not the Bible.

 

The actual grail myths place it as the cup from the last supper. Only the Authurian legends claim it was the cup that was used to collect his blood.

There is this - Galahad received a vision of the Grail in Arthurian legend. He was the perfect knight and the only one to come as far in finding the Grail for Arthur. Now, the Grail was used to catch the blood of Christ. Rand is a Christ figure. Rand's blood needs to be shed on the rocks of Shayol Ghul. That doesn't necessarily mean that Rand needs to be there if his blood is somehow brought there:

 

"Twice dawns the day when his blood is shed.

Once for mourning, once for birth.

Red on black, the Dragon’s blood stains the rock of Shayol Ghul.

In the Pit of Doom shall his blood free men from the Shadow. ^[5]

His blood on the rocks of Shayol Ghul,

washing away the Shadow, sacrifice for man’s salvation. ^[22]"

 

^{Perhaps, Galad will bring it or even stab Rand so that it happens - he does whatever is the right thing to do no matter the consequence.}

 

Actually the Gail was the cup used in the last supper, the one that held the wine. the bible is not clear on whether this was the same one that was used to catch his actual blood

it's part of the Grail myths, not the Bible.

 

The actual grail myths place it as the cup from the last supper. Only the Authurian legends claim it was the cup that was used to collect his blood.

The Holy Grail myth comes over a milennia after Christ. Most believe the story of Perceval to be its origin. Perceval is a knight of the round table.

The Knights of the Round table were a myth themselves.

 

The grail myth started centuries before the Authurian legends cam about. There were legends about the healing power that drinking from the cup from the last supper had, and the spear of destiny, and many other things associated with christ way before then. People has been searching for the holy grail for hundreds of years before it became popular with the authurian legends.

 

 

The chalice used by Christ during the last supper and the Grail myths are two different things that are linked. Yes, the knights of the Round Table are myths and fables. Some believe they have true origins.

 

Question: "What does the Bible say about the holy grail (sangreal)?"

 

Answer: The Bible has nothing to say about the Holy Grail because the existence of the Holy Grail is nothing but a mythical legend that has been popularized recently by such books as The DaVinci Code and a renewed interest in King Arthur.

 

There are many legends surrounding the Holy Grail; however, most scholars believe the original source of the legends is a Celtic myth of a horn of plenty (or cauldron or other vessel). This vessel was supposed to be the source of all things good, such as unquenchable food, health, success in battle, etc. According to the legend, this vessel was the source of divine favor because it was thought to be the cup that Jesus used at the Last Supper, or a cup that had caught Jesus' blood as He hung on the cross. However, not all early Grail stories are consistent on even this. In some stories the Grail is a cup, while in others it is a cauldron or a stone. In these mythical stories, the importance is not what the Grail is but what it represents, which is divine power.

 

The most popular of these stories says that the Holy Grail was the cup that Jesus used at the Last Supper and which Joseph of Arimathea later used to collect drops of Jesus’ blood at the crucifixion. This legend has it that Joseph of Arimathea or his descendants brought the cup to Britain where it was lost. This is where the legend of the Holy Grail becomes intertwined with the legend of King Arthur and his knights. Because this mythical vessel was supposed to be the source of all things good and the source of divine favor, those who were noble and pure in heart—such as King Arthur and his knights—desired to possess it and use its power for good.

 

These legends of the Holy Grail were the most popular in the twelfth and thirteenth centuries, which were the darkest of the Dark Ages. At this time Europe was a spiritual wasteland, and people looked to legends such as these for hope as the tales represented a lost golden age and the efforts to regain it. The legend of the Holy Grail seems to arise out of the Celtic church’s claim to apostolic succession, which they traced back through Joseph of Arimathea to the apostle John. In the midst of oppression by the Catholic Church, which claimed that its apostolic succession and priesthood authority was through the apostle Peter, the legend of the Holy Grail represented hope to the Celtic church through an alternate line of apostolic succession. While the Catholic Church claimed that they were the only church with apostolic authority, the Holy Grail became a tangible symbol of the Celtic church’s claim to equal authority, also by a direct line of apostolic succession.

 

While these types of mythical stories of a Holy Grail make for interesting reading and exciting movies, they should not be of great concern for true Christians. As born-again believers in Christ, our hope is not in some vessel that might have held Christ’s blood or might have been used by Him at the Last Supper; our hope and assurance are in His sinless life, His atonement on the cross, His resurrection from the dead, and His promise of eternal life to all who believe in Him. Christians do not need to look to a priest who traces his authority back to Christ by apostolic succession when we have the authority of the Word of God and direct access to the only mediator between man and God, Jesus Christ (1 Timothy 2:5).

 

http://www.gotquesti...holy-grail.html

 

 

The origins of the myth, itself:

 

Edit to add:

he Holy Grail is a medieval legend about the cup of the Last Supper. The first appearance of the term Holy Grail was in 1170 in Perceval, a romantic writing about the legend of King Arthur and his kingdom of Camelot. When Brown suggests that the Holy Grail is not a cup but actually Mary Magdalene who carried on Jesus' bloodline, he alters an existing legend about the historical "cup of Christ" and uses it to advance fictional claims about Jesus and Mary.

http://rbcdavincicode.org/holy_grail.php