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Is it mentioned anywhere in the books that it is common knowledge to the forsaken that asmodean is dead?  Because if it is not, what do you think this means?  In the TGS prologue there is the scene where Graendal is watching the meeting b/w demandred, mesaana, and moridin.  At one point in her POV she mentions how frustrated she is that she doesn't know what demandred is up to and she thinks " She pretty much knew the plans of the other seven remaining forsaken" 

 

If you count there are at that time

Moridin, Demandred, Ara'ngar, Mesaana, Moghedien, Cyndane, Semirhage and of course Graendal makes eight.  So if it isn't common knowledge that asmodean is dead doesn't she have to be the Killer?  sorry if this has already been brought up.

 

Also one other thing from the prologue.  When moridin is giving graendal the instructions to break rand's spirit, he says something along the line that rand must be kept alive until he "can face ME" on the final day.  so does this mean that at least moridin believes that the last battle will be a confrontation b/w the dragon and him and not the dragon and the great lord?

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It's not common knowledge among the Forsaken, but we know that other Forsaken know Asmodean is dead. Demandred was told in LoC that he died and would not come back, Graendal tells Sammael in LoC that Asmodean is dead, Aran'gar is sure Asmodean is dead in KoD, Semirhage thinks Asmodean is hiding in LoC.

 

Moridin is a complicated case. On one level he wants to PERSONALLY kill Rand and show that the Dark One is great and that he was right all along, he also wants to face Rand because he senses the bond growing between them and he hopes to undo that bond upon meeting him. He's possibly afraid of what that bond will do to him if he kills Rand.

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Is it mentioned anywhere in the books that it is common knowledge to the forsaken that asmodean is dead?  Because if it is not, what do you think this means?  In the TGS prologue there is the scene where Graendal is watching the meeting b/w demandred, mesaana, and moridin.  At one point in her POV she mentions how frustrated she is that she doesn't know what demandred is up to and she thinks " She pretty much knew the plans of the other seven remaining forsaken"  

 

If you count there are at that time

Moridin, Demandred, Ara'ngar, Mesaana, Moghedien, Cyndane, Semirhage and of course Graendal makes eight.  So if it isn't common knowledge that asmodean is dead doesn't she have to be the Killer?  sorry if this has already been brought up.

 

She also thought in LOC that she had been to Shayol Ghul and had been 'all but promised' Nae'blis.  Probably, she was asked 'WOULD YOU BE NAE'BLIS?' like Demandred was.  It's probable that she learned about Asmodean's death in the same way.

 

Also one other thing from the prologue.  When moridin is giving graendal the instructions to break rand's spirit, he says something along the line that rand must be kept alive until he "can face ME" on the final day.  so does this mean that at least moridin believes that the last battle will be a confrontation b/w the dragon and him and not the dragon and the great lord?

Moridin also says 'It is not time for us to fight' when he meets Rand in the dream.

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Well, I'm sure you believe she killed him, but that doesn't change the fact that she could easily have learned about Asmodean being dead at Shayol Ghul, just like Demandred did.  In other words, the fact that she knows he is dead is not evidence of anything, and certainly not conclusive evidence as the OP suggests.

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