Maybe I overlooked it....

[jaldy3]

Maybe, somehow I missed it in the reading, but why has none of the Aes Sedai that are hunting the Black Ajah considered Alvirin? They know that the BA knows everything coming out of Eladia's office before it does. And yet I do not recall anyone saying hmmmm maybe we need to look at Alvirin. The Keeper goes off on some "business" and while they consider it strange they dont follow up.

 

Please, quote chapter and verse if I am wrong or voice opinions why this has happened.

[algspkr]

I don't remember where, but they believe for awhile that it is either Eladia or Alvirin.  I think that it was KoD that Eladia asked about Alvirin that seemed to make them more sure that Eladia was the one.

[Mik]

Maybe, somehow I missed it in the reading, but why has none of the Aes Sedai that are hunting the Black Ajah considered Alvirin? They know that the BA knows everything coming out of Eladia's office before it does. And yet I do not recall anyone saying hmmmm maybe we need to look at Alvirin. The Keeper goes off on some "business" and while they consider it strange they dont follow up.

 

Please, quote chapter and verse if I am wrong or voice opinions why this has happened.

 

It's because of this...:

 

Pevara frowned. “Before we give her to Elaida, Saerin, I want to dig out as much as we can. Names, places, anything. Everything she knows!” Darkfriends had killed Pevara’s entire family, and Seaine was sure she would go into exile ready to hunt down every last Black sister personally.

 

Still huddled on the Chair, Talene made a sound, half bitter laugh, half weeping. “When you do that, we are all dead. Dead! Elaida is Black Ajah!”

 

“That’s impossible!” Seaine burst out. “Elaida gave me the order herself.”

 

“She must be,” Doesine half whispered. “Talene’s sworn the oaths again; she just named her!” Yukiri nodded vehemently.

 

“Use your heads,” Pevara growled, shaking her own in disgust. “You know as well as I do if you believe a lie, you can say it for truth.”

 

“And that is truth,” Saerin said firmly. “What proof do you have, Talene? Have you seen Elaida at your... meetings?” She gripped her knife hilt so hard that her knuckles paled. Saerin had had to fight harder than most for the shawl, for the right to remain in the Tower at all. To her, the Tower was more than home, more important than her own life. If Talene gave the wrong answer, Elaida might not live to face trial.

 

“They don’t have meetings,” Talene muttered sullenly. “Except the Supreme Council, I suppose. But she must be. They know every report she receives, even the secret ones, every word spoken to her. They know every decision she makes before it’s announced. Days before; sometimes weeks. How else, unless she tells them?” Sitting up with an effort, she tried to fix them each in turn with an intent stare. It only made her eyes seem to dart anxiously. “We have to run; we have to find a place to hide. I’ll help you—tell you everything I know!—but they’ll kill us unless we run.”

 

Not everyone believes it, but it deflects attention from Alviarin. I'm not sure if they aren't considering her... the Hunters just can't be sure anymore.. and they want to take out the Black Ajah with one clean blow. So, they can't/ won't trust either Elaida or Alviarin untill more pieces fall into place.

 

And then in...:

 

Pevara exchanged looks with Yukiri, then said, “This is the less urgent, Seaine?”

 

The White Sitter’s composure faded into worry, tightening her mouth and creasing the corners of her eyes. Her hands tightened into fists gripping her shawl. “For us, it is. I’ve just come from answering a summons to Elaida. She wanted to know how I was getting on.” Seaine took a deep breath. “With discovering proof that Alviarin entered a treasonous correspondence with the Dragon  Reborn. Really, she was so circumspect in the beginning, so indirect, it’s no wonder I misunderstood what she wanted.”

 

“I think that fox is walking on my grave,” Yukiri murmured.

 

Pevara nodded. The notion of approaching Elaida had vanished like summer dew. Their one assurance that Elaida was not herself Black Ajah had been that she instigated the hunt for them, but since she had done no such thing.... At least the Black Ajah remained in ignorance of them. At least they had that, still. But for how much longer?

 

“On mine, too,” she said softly.

 

After that, they just don't trust Elaida anymore...for all they know she IS Black.

[algspkr]

Maybe, somehow I missed it in the reading, but why has none of the Aes Sedai that are hunting the Black Ajah considered Alvirin? They know that the BA knows everything coming out of Eladia's office before it does. And yet I do not recall anyone saying hmmmm maybe we need to look at Alvirin. The Keeper goes off on some "business" and while they consider it strange they dont follow up.

 

Please, quote chapter and verse if I am wrong or voice opinions why this has happened.

 

It's because of this...:

 

Pevara frowned. “Before we give her to Elaida, Saerin, I want to dig out as much as we can. Names, places, anything. Everything she knows!” Darkfriends had killed Pevara’s entire family, and Seaine was sure she would go into exile ready to hunt down every last Black sister personally.

 

Still huddled on the Chair, Talene made a sound, half bitter laugh, half weeping. “When you do that, we are all dead. Dead! Elaida is Black Ajah!”

 

“That’s impossible!” Seaine burst out. “Elaida gave me the order herself.”

 

“She must be,” Doesine half whispered. “Talene’s sworn the oaths again; she just named her!” Yukiri nodded vehemently.

 

“Use your heads,” Pevara growled, shaking her own in disgust. “You know as well as I do if you believe a lie, you can say it for truth.”

 

“And that is truth,” Saerin said firmly. “What proof do you have, Talene? Have you seen Elaida at your... meetings?” She gripped her knife hilt so hard that her knuckles paled. Saerin had had to fight harder than most for the shawl, for the right to remain in the Tower at all. To her, the Tower was more than home, more important than her own life. If Talene gave the wrong answer, Elaida might not live to face trial.

 

“They don’t have meetings,” Talene muttered sullenly. “Except the Supreme Council, I suppose. But she must be. They know every report she receives, even the secret ones, every word spoken to her. They know every decision she makes before it’s announced. Days before; sometimes weeks. How else, unless she tells them?” Sitting up with an effort, she tried to fix them each in turn with an intent stare. It only made her eyes seem to dart anxiously. “We have to run; we have to find a place to hide. I’ll help you—tell you everything I know!—but they’ll kill us unless we run.”

 

Not everyone believes it, but it deflects attention from Alviarin. I'm not sure if they aren't considering her... the Hunters just can't be sure anymore.. and they want to take out the Black Ajah with one clean blow. So, they can't/ won't trust either Elaida or Alviarin untill more pieces fall into place.

There is another quote that suggests that they believe it is either Alviarin or Elaida, but I don't remember where it is.

And then in...:

 

Pevara exchanged looks with Yukiri, then said, “This is the less urgent, Seaine?”

 

The White Sitter’s composure faded into worry, tightening her mouth and creasing the corners of her eyes. Her hands tightened into fists gripping her shawl. “For us, it is. I’ve just come from answering a summons to Elaida. She wanted to know how I was getting on.” Seaine took a deep breath. “With discovering proof that Alviarin entered a treasonous correspondence with the Dragon  Reborn. Really, she was so circumspect in the beginning, so indirect, it’s no wonder I misunderstood what she wanted.”

 

“I think that fox is walking on my grave,” Yukiri murmured.

 

Pevara nodded. The notion of approaching Elaida had vanished like summer dew. Their one assurance that Elaida was not herself Black Ajah had been that she instigated the hunt for them, but since she had done no such thing.... At least the Black Ajah remained in ignorance of them. At least they had that, still. But for how much longer?

 

“On mine, too,” she said softly.

 

After that, they just don't trust Elaida anymore...for all they know she IS Black.

This seems to have shifted the balance of suspiscion from Alviarin to Elaida.

[Luckers]

Timing also plays its part. Alviarin had been removed by the time the Hunters took Atuan and the rest, yetthey all still claimed that they knew everything going through Elaida's office. It's a misperception, sure, but its still a good reason to focus on Elaida not Alviarin.

 

But, did anyone notice Egwene thinking about using Alviarin's letter to Rand against her. I reckon that will be all the seed necessary to spark the idea of Alviarin in the Hunter's head, and Egwene has had direct interaction with two of the Hunters recently.

 

:D