Sailor Moon Mafia [Advanced] Game Thread

[bopolis]

you gonna come back for 3.0.

 

 

i have lots of 3.0 hype

[Eldrick4221]

I think darthe did too. Maybe.

[bopolis]

rippppp

[Eldrick4221]

Ooh. I do want to.

[Eldrick4221]

So*

[bopolis]

im probably gonna stay up get breakfast then go to bed

[Eldrick4221]

I love your schedule

[Eldrick4221]

I think I'm gonna work on catching me a Scyther. Gen 1 Safari Zone......

[Spadeszee]

I'm still refreshing.

 

I need an adult.

[Fleeing Coward]

 

 

@Fred and coward

 

How familiar are you with mafia in general, and with the players in this game?

 

Been playing mafia variants for over 10 years, I've seen at least half the players in this game play games before. Cuth is from my original forum so I probably know him better than the rest.

How familiar are you with the people you have played with? How well can you read them?

 

 

Not very, I consider myself pretty decent at reading Cuth.

 

Currently pocketed by bop cause of his avatar plus the fact that he plays PoE.

[Fredwood]

 

lol ok, I never said I wanted to lynch someone to clear someone else. I said if one is a wolf then it looks good for the other. If you think that's manipulative that's fine, because I don't want to lynch any of you 3 right now. if you think I haven't said something with my posts, that seems to be a fallback for you on a lot of people, so I'm not really bothered by it, I've stated several specific reasons for my reads and reaction, and I may very well be wrong the Darthe/Spade not being on a team together, but it was my initial reaction to it. I didn't bring up Eldrick, you did, so I'm not sure why you keep mentioning him as a comparison point, if I had a problem with your Eldrick read I would have said something. TBF, I don't really have a problem with your Darthe read (aside from the read possibly being true of yourself), but I don't think it's a read a teammate puts another teammate.

1 I brought up Eldrick because my read on him is very similar to Darthe.

 

2 Once I actually asked you specifics about Darthe you back peddled on what you said a lot, which Idk it's just pinging me so hard right now.

 

Maybe I'm reading too hard into you right now and when I get sleep I'll reread all of this, but it feels forced?

 

3 If I were at my PC I would be more specific as to pinpointing what doesn't line up and why what you've said doesn't say much to me.

 

5 I'm not one to force a read of I don't have one. I think you glazed over some people in your read list, because you don't have much to say about your neutrals. I tried to give an explanation as to why I read everyone the way I did, even my neutrals.

 

4 I think manipulation was too strong a word to use, I apologize for that, but I'm not understanding how you came to your conclusions and it feels forced.

 

6 I really want to reevaluate this in the morning when I have a clear head.

 

1. And I said, it was more specific and I didn't have a problem with it, Eldrick to me is a non factor in the way I read your Darthe critique.

 

2. Where did I backpedal?, I'm still under the assumption that it's not very likely that you two could be working together. If Darthe is town or vice versa, it does little to clear or condemn you or him, I'm pretty sure I was consistent in that the interaction only matters if one of you happen to be scum.  I made the caveat at the time of the original post that maybe I was putting too much stock in my analysis of the interaction.

 

3 Attacking me for lack of content is w/e to me, if my content doesn't mean anything to you. Either you think I'm providing content or you don't, it's not worth getting on a merry-go-round about it. It's not provable or easily clarified one way or the other,  It's part of the reason I came up with the correlation in the first place

 

4. I don't see how it's a forced read, I literally pointed out specifically what bothered me about 3 of your posts and the reason for my positive reads on others (I also pointed out specific reasons why I didn't think you were scum as well).  I didn't point anything out  about Darthe's posts because nothing made me scum read him or town read him.

 

5 You're saying I'm forcing reads but glazing over others...either I'm not posting enough reads or I'm forcing them.  Additionally what you're describing you're doing by posting about people I have no strong opinion on is forcing reads. 

 

I mean I could have specifically gone line by line and had about 6 people where I just kind of post a paragraph about shrugging, but I was already walling with my 3 town leans and my scum lean and my analysis of you and Zander, and I didn't really think it necessary to do that when I could have just lumped everyone together and said (need more info).

 

6. I read this too late, but I already committed this much time responding that it feels a shame not to share how annoyingly pedantic I can be.

 

I will say this, 

 

if you had sad 

 

"Darthe: eh, I'd like to see more from him, I'm not really sure what to make of him" fine

 

Instead you basically said.

 

"Darthe: eh, I'm not sure what to make of him, he hasn't really done anything to wow me or provided me with an original viewpoint"

 

One is not the same as the other. The first one, is a valid statement, the second one can also be a valid statement, but is a dangerous thing to say about your teammate, because it puts him in a difficult hole to dig out of. Maybe that will clarify where I'm at.

[bopolis]

im gonna talk about why i have concerns with clov/cory.

 

Clov head:

 

While I agree with what he said about sooh, the post wher ehe was laying it out seemed more wordy than it needed to be for something that could be said as succinctly as "sooh probably pretty clear for saying that because she's probably that role." Especially because i thought it was obvious that was the case*** I also found his marsh push about not having sooh higher a bit nitpicky.

 

cory head:

He made a couple comments before his reread about the key to the game being to figure out spades and about how he'd have to review spades' villa games to figure her out. I thought this was weird because i don't think spades was the ley to the game at this point. I thnk the key to the game was the 1/3rd of the people who haven't posted or done anything. As to the second part I thought the "getting into spades headspace" part was weird because he was in her first game and hydra'd with her and walked her through(her words) her second game. So the part about having to reexamine them felt a bit odd to me. I also didn't understand why he was evaluating her on stress and we talked about it but i don't think thats more of playstyle(his vs mine) issues than i think that is an issue with his alignment.

 

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irrelevant segway: when i saw it i was talking to spades on discord and i was musing if we could just brute force the game with claims and spades said didn't you read the original post, their are fake claims to which i said, "why would i ever read the original post." then i sensibly chuckled

 

[bopolis]

[unvote]

 

lock clear

[bopolis]

[unvote]

 

lock clear

 

fleeing coward's last post was supposed to be quoted before this.

 

and zander, before you ask this is tongue in cheek

[Eldrick4221]

@Coward You mentioned in your random numbers are the scum team post that you hadn't read the thread.

 

Have you yet. Any comments or questions?

[Eldrick4221]

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Who reads the OP anyway?

 

[bopolis]

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Who reads the OP anyway?

 

villagy

[Eldrick4221]

While I don't agree with Fred's read on spades, his approach does seem towny. Have liked his posts so far (even though they are wordy)

[Eldrick4221]

I think both spades and Fred are misreading things in the back and forth. I'm not seeing what they are pointing out in each other.

[Fredwood]

While I don't agree with Fred's read on spades, his approach does seem towny. Have liked his posts so far (even though they are wordy)

 

Well I did have 58 pages to catch up on, and I put it all in 2 posts. So oops.

 

I'll be less Wall-E from here on.

[Eldrick4221]

[Eldrick4221]

Actually didn't mind the big posts. They were surprisingly easy to read.

[Fredwood]

While I don't agree with Fred's read on spades, his approach does seem towny. Have liked his posts so far (even though they are wordy)

 

I don't believe he issue isn't the read on Spades (my read is null with some positive and negatives)

 

It's the fact that I'm saying a Darthe wolf flip looks good for her. I think she's thinking that I want a lynch eventually from those 3 based solely on this, which I don't.

[Fredwood]

Actually didn't mind the big posts. They were surprisingly easy to read.

 

Well that means more to me then you know lol.

[bopolis]

I think both spades and Fred are misreading things in the back and forth. I'm not seeing what they are pointing out in each other.

 

fred's not considering the eldrick read because thats not what pinged him. it was the darthe back and forth. He doesn't have all her reads/reason on his mind he's just seeing the connection of what he's reading and noting. Whereas spades is acutely awae of her reads because its how she feels and her initial reaction is "im interacting with/reading eldrick similarly, why cherrypick the darthe read and not mention eldrick"

 

its a perspective issue IMO