[Basic] Peg + Cat Mafia -- TOWN WIN

[Shanti]

Where did that change happen?

 

After Halli was killed. I had the same issue in my other game. Once I read someone as scum, it is really difficult for me to read them as anything else....not to mention in both games so far, people are REALLY playing scummy even though they're town. Once our game ended, my sister and I discussed it and even though she was scum and I was town, we both agreed that quite a few of the town lynches would have been avoided if people hadn't played so scummy. She and her scum partner were convinced there was a second scum team it was so bad. Some people on this game are playing the same, they just read as scum.

[Shanti]

And do you mean knew cuz you thought spades was scum and Hally was town? Or knew because she realized the peek?

 

Knew because she knows Halli well enough out of game to know her tells of being town were true from the get go. 

[Eldrick4221]

 

Why did you go after spades for defending Hally, but not anyone else?

In the beginning?

 

Because tbh, I thought it was personal life getting in the way of Spades seeing Halli as scum.

I truly and wholeheartedly believed that Halli was scum in the beginning, and I just felt like any argument that came

Spades' way, she would say that is fair, but...or just continuously defend her. I later considered the fact that maybe Spades just knew

the entire time that Halli was town and so she defended her, which just read wrong in game because I was getting such a scum read.

 

 

Tress gets it...

 

I do as well, I just need to sniff out the scum and need some help from people have more experience.

I take extreme offense to this, not to mention you're incessant defence of Halli is seeming more wolfy by the minute

This doesn't read to me as "personal life getting in the way of reading her". It reads as you calling them teammates

[Shanti]

 

 

Why did you go after spades for defending Hally, but not anyone else?

In the beginning?

 

Because tbh, I thought it was personal life getting in the way of Spades seeing Halli as scum.

I truly and wholeheartedly believed that Halli was scum in the beginning, and I just felt like any argument that came

Spades' way, she would say that is fair, but...or just continuously defend her. I later considered the fact that maybe Spades just knew

the entire time that Halli was town and so she defended her, which just read wrong in game because I was getting such a scum read.

 

 

Tress gets it...

I do as well, I just need to sniff out the scum and need some help from people have more experience.

I take extreme offense to this, not to mention you're incessant defence of Halli is seeming more wolfy by the minute

This doesn't read to me as "personal life getting in the way of reading her". It reads as you calling them teammates

 

 

I don't know how to explain myself without sounding like I'm accusing them of cheating. <.<

[Shanti]

I'm going back through to ISO those of us left to see what I can find that I may have missed.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

Why did you go after spades for defending Hally, but not anyone else?

In the beginning?

 

Because tbh, I thought it was personal life getting in the way of Spades seeing Halli as scum.

I truly and wholeheartedly believed that Halli was scum in the beginning, and I just felt like any argument that came

Spades' way, she would say that is fair, but...or just continuously defend her. I later considered the fact that maybe Spades just knew

the entire time that Halli was town and so she defended her, which just read wrong in game because I was getting such a scum read.

 

 

Tress gets it...

I do as well, I just need to sniff out the scum and need some help from people have more experience.

I take extreme offense to this, not to mention you're incessant defence of Halli is seeming more wolfy by the minute

This doesn't read to me as "personal life getting in the way of reading her". It reads as you calling them teammates

I don't know how to explain myself without sounding like I'm accusing them of cheating. <.<

I don't like that you can't justify the discrepancy with what you did and what you said you were doing.

 

Glad we had this chat. You're a good player, but I think you're scum.

[Eldrick4221]

I'm going back through to ISO those of us left to see what I can find that I may have missed.

Have fun with mine :P

[Eldrick4221]

Gnight

[Shanti]

Gin

 

 

 

 

 

Why did you go after spades for defending Hally, but not anyone else?

In the beginning?

Because tbh, I thought it was personal life getting in the way of Spades seeing Halli as scum.
I truly and wholeheartedly believed that Halli was scum in the beginning, and I just felt like any argument that came
Spades' way, she would say that is fair, but...or just continuously defend her. I later considered the fact that maybe Spades just knew
the entire time that Halli was town and so she defended her, which just read wrong in game because I was getting such a scum read.

 

 

Tress gets it...

I do as well, I just need to sniff out the scum and need some help from people have more experience.

I take extreme offense to this, not to mention you're incessant defence of Halli is seeming more wolfy by the minute

This doesn't read to me as "personal life getting in the way of reading her". It reads as you calling them teammates

I don't know how to explain myself without sounding like I'm accusing them of cheating. <.<

I don't like that you can't justify the discrepancy with what you did and what you said you were doing.

Glad we had this chat. You're a good player, but I think you're scum

 

Fine I will blatantly state that I think OFF game, Hallia and Spades had the discussion of their roles.

 

I almost feel sorry for you that you're so wrong, but if you insist. You really need to get your argument together for Tress or Tigs, because there WILL still be scum if you vote me, 

I have said it once and I will say it again, I am Farmer, Vanilla Town.

[Shanti]

Gnight

 

I'm not joking, you need to decide between Tress and Tigs. G'night.

[Shad_]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Eldrick (1) - Tigraine

 

Shanti (1) - Eldrick

 

Not Voting: Songstress, Spadeszee, Shanti

 

 

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

 

[Spadeszee]

@ Spades - you're the only one i trust completely here... I went into this day phase like you, thinking it had to be Eldrick or Tigs and we'd be good going one then the other.

 

I've been ridiculously bad this game and don't even remotely trust my judgment.

 

However, if Shanti is mafia, at least I got one thing right and the N1 kill was specifically not a seer hunt.  I can see a world in which Darthe decided to pull fancy play syndrome out of the hat N1 to sow confusion later in the game.  Heck, the fact that it's gone this far after 2 mafia lynches in 2 days means whatever choices they made, they were impressive indeed.

 

What do you think of Shanti's reaction here?

 

All bad, she's freaking out, not keeping facts even close to safe, using my argument against her (probably fresh in her mind after reading) as her argument for elf.

Don't like it for a second.

I'd be fine lynching her after this, if she flips town, we know it's Eldrick.

[Shanti]

 

@ Spades - you're the only one i trust completely here... I went into this day phase like you, thinking it had to be Eldrick or Tigs and we'd be good going one then the other.

 

I've been ridiculously bad this game and don't even remotely trust my judgment.

 

However, if Shanti is mafia, at least I got one thing right and the N1 kill was specifically not a seer hunt.  I can see a world in which Darthe decided to pull fancy play syndrome out of the hat N1 to sow confusion later in the game.  Heck, the fact that it's gone this far after 2 mafia lynches in 2 days means whatever choices they made, they were impressive indeed.

 

What do you think of Shanti's reaction here?

All bad, she's freaking out, not keeping facts even close to safe, using my argument against her (probably fresh in her mind after reading) as her argument for elf.

Don't like it for a second.

I'd be fine lynching her after this, if she flips town, we know it's Eldrick.

Sounds like you have it all figured out, but you're wrong. It's ok. At least you have a plan for after I flip town.

[Shanti]

It isn't easy coming back to being attacked from all sides, especially hungover and possibly still intoxicated. But it's fine, I've truly argued all I can and feel defeated so I give up. Lynch me, I'll flip town, take out Eld, because hopefully it's him, as long as he doesn't nk you.

[Spadeszee]

Gin

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why did you go after spades for defending Hally, but not anyone else?

 

In the beginning?

Because tbh, I thought it was personal life getting in the way of Spades seeing Halli as scum.

I truly and wholeheartedly believed that Halli was scum in the beginning, and I just felt like any argument that came

Spades' way, she would say that is fair, but...or just continuously defend her. I later considered the fact that maybe Spades just knew

the entire time that Halli was town and so she defended her, which just read wrong in game because I was getting such a scum read.

 

 

Tress gets it...

 

I do as well, I just need to sniff out the scum and need some help from people have more experience.

I take extreme offense to this, not to mention you're incessant defence of Halli is seeming more wolfy by the minute

This doesn't read to me as "personal life getting in the way of reading her". It reads as you calling them teammates

I don't know how to explain myself without sounding like I'm accusing them of cheating. <.<

I don't like that you can't justify the discrepancy with what you did and what you said you were doing.

Glad we had this chat. You're a good player, but I think you're scum

 

Fine I will blatantly state that I think OFF game, Hallia and Spades had the discussion of their roles.

 

I almost feel sorry for you that you're so wrong, but if you insist. You really need to get your argument together for Tress or Tigs, because there WILL still be scum if you vote me, 

I have said it once and I will say it again, I am Farmer, Vanilla Town.

I think you missed the fact that I was scum reading her D1 and D2 until she claimed PR. I am no cheater and the fact that you're coming to say this clearly shows your inexperience here. Tress listened closely to Hallia, same as me.

Nothing personal, but you're getting voted today because nothing adds up and you haven't been reading carefully.

[Spadeszee]

It isn't easy coming back to being attacked from all sides, especially hungover and possibly still intoxicated. But it's fine, I've truly argued all I can and feel defeated so I give up. Lynch me, I'll flip town, take out Eld, because hopefully it's him, as long as he doesn't nk you.

I thought you just said it was Tigs or Tress? Keep your story straight. You just want anyone but you to be voted off right now.

[Spadeszee]

 

Gnight

 

 

I'm not joking, you need to decide between Tress and Tigs. G'night.

Telling him to vote tress or Tigs

[Shanti]

Oh geez. Everyone at one time or another in my reread pointed a finger at me. I'm done with this. I'm officially quitting. It's no longer fun. I can't get my head straight, I have a huge migraine. Enjoy, guys.

[Shanti]

My final read

 

Eld-town

Spades-town

Me-town

Tress-town

 

Tigs-scum

 

[v] Shanti [/v]

 

Because I am finished playing. I won't be posting again.

[Spadeszee]

Oh geez. Everyone at one time or another in my reread pointed a finger at me. I'm done with this. I'm officially quitting. It's no longer fun. I can't get my head straight, I have a huge migraine. Enjoy, guys.

We're you just criticizing Elrick for doing this exact thing???

I questioned him and I questioned him HARD. Then you know what he did? He made cases for everyone, and that included you. He made sense of things, unlike you right now.

If you take a second to make a case (you're going to have to decide which of the three, you can just say everyone but you, not how it works), Take a few deep breaths and look at this from a clear perspective, you might be able to move opinions.

Your reaction right now? You're throwing a fit, not trying to game solve and it's a really bad look. Accusing people of cheating? Thats just really low.

[Shanti]

 

Oh geez. Everyone at one time or another in my reread pointed a finger at me. I'm done with this. I'm officially quitting. It's no longer fun. I can't get my head straight, I have a huge migraine. Enjoy, guys.

We're you just criticizing Elrick for doing this exact thing???

I questioned him and I questioned him HARD. Then you know what he did? He made cases for everyone, and that included you. He made sense of things, unlike you right now.

If you take a second to make a case (you're going to have to decide which of the three, you can just say everyone but you, not how it works), Take a few deep breaths and look at this from a clear perspective, you might be able to move opinions.

Your reaction right now? You're throwing a fit, not trying to game solve and it's a really bad look. Accusing people of cheating? Thats just really low.

 

 

 

I started with a clear perspective, but every. single. thing that I say is being mangled and twisted and overanalyzed and its getting ridiculous. I'm NEW I'm HUNGOVER, I can barely open my eyes to look at the darn screen yet I was fighting but it was all for naught. I didn't want to accuse you of cheating, truly I didn't. But that is HOW IT CAME OFF to me. I'm throwing a fit because my character is being torn to shreds, it has before but not like this, this feels different and it is something I am not enjoying, so hell yeah I'm jumping ship. Eld has been doing it from the start, I'm doing it now when everything I say is being turned negative. When you stop enjoying something why on Earth would you continue to do it? That is the definition of insanity...to continue to do something and expect a different outcome. I could sit here and argue until I'm blue in the face and it won't do me a lick of good.

[Shad_]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Eldrick (1) - Tigraine

 

Shanti (2) - Eldrick, Shanti

 

Not Voting: Songstress, Spadeszee

 

 

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

 

[Shanti]

I went back and ISO'd everyone. You were commenting on Hallia being town just for her checking in at work, and what I can remember reading without it being mangled, you seemed to continuously lean that way, I'm sorry my brain went into the direction of oh, they shared roles with each other, which to be honest, would be understandable as I think it would make the game more fun to have at least one person you know you can trust instead of the alternative. 

 

Eld was so hard to read through his entire ISO, but I can't help but feel he is town because he seems very passionate about it all. Again, I don't know if this is just him being a brilliant actor and toying with us all or if he has been on the verge of going over the cliff this entire time as I have now. But where he and I differ, up until today I have given NO reason for ANYONE to doubt me. 

 

Tress has given good arguments and reasoning to a certain extent but I couldn't help but to read a lot of wolfy in her ISO

 

HOWEVER

 

Overall with the exception of her reads, Tigs seemed the most wolfy and it seemed to change when Alex and Darthe were gone.

 

There are my reads and my reasonings. 

[Shanti]

Either way, I'm town. I know I'm town. I know I'm innocent and my mistakes are just that...mistakes. But I refuse to sit here and be attacked any longer for crap I'm not even meaning to do. They aren't slips...or tells...they are the mistakes of someone that doesn't feel well and can hardly focus. 

[Shanti]

Curious why you haven't hammered me yet since you're so aggressively coming after me and so sure I'm scum.