I think I slipped because they both serve the same purpose...To be a calming influence to help a highly stressed man stay centered. Remember what Min said about the 3 lies that her aunt says that all women tell their partners?

 

Plus, RJ himself said that all of the main female characters were based on differing aspects of his wife's personality.

 

And of course there is something wrong with Min.. she is SUCH a freak (sexually speaking), but then so we're Elayne and Aviendha, so I guess that's why they were able to accept sharing the same man.

Not to turn this into an R rated discussion, but how were any of the three freaks when it came time to sex? It's not like they decided to share him at the same time. They basically did the same thing the Aiel do.

 

I think I slipped because they both serve the same purpose...To be a calming influence to help a highly stressed man stay centered. Remember what Min said about the 3 lies that her aunt says that all women tell their partners?

 

Plus, RJ himself said that all of the main female characters were based on differing aspects of his wife's personality.

 

And of course there is something wrong with Min.. she is SUCH a freak (sexually speaking), but then so we're Elayne and Aviendha, so I guess that's why they were able to accept sharing the same man.

Not to turn this into an R rated discussion, but how were any of the three freaks when it came time to sex? It's not like they decided to share him at the same time. They basically did the same thing the Aiel do.

I think I slipped because they both serve the same purpose...To be a calming influence to help a highly stressed man stay centered. Remember what Min said about the 3 lies that her aunt says that all women tell their partners?

Plus, RJ himself said that all of the main female characters were based on differing aspects of his wife's personality.

And of course there is something wrong with Min.. she is SUCH a freak (sexually speaking), but then so we're Elayne and Aviendha, so I guess that's why they were able to accept sharing the same man.

Yes, but Rand didn't need to know exactly where they were remember? The image in his head should've been enough. Aviendha was able to make a gateway to a place she'd never been just from a description, and she wasn't good with that weave, at least not the way she was shown by Egwene. Or he could've Skimmed. They really spent more time trying to block each other out than anything instead collaborating, whereas I don't think the girls ever went more than a couple of weeks without communicating in some way, if it was only Egwene leaving them messages in their dreams, or the messages written in dust in the novice quarters of the Tower (pretty ingenious).

Problem is how were they suppose to communicate? We aren't sure they could send messages or communicate through their visions. Mostly they were getting a vison of what the others were doing at that moment. With the guys all over the place, Perin didn't know how to communicate using dreams. All the women could channel, make gateways if needed, and had TAR training. The men didn't. Perin could of used a Asha'man but with Rand moving about, he wasn't easy to locate. Mat was pretty much on his own.

Yes, but still, I think me and Rand had about the same reaction when she died

robert jordan instructed in his notes that post last battle,cadsuane

would become the next amyrlin seat,so brandon sanderson had

very little control in egwene's fate,i.e.either you(the author) kill her

or burn her ability to channel.

I definitely agree. The girls did use T'A'R to communicate, but it was very frustrating when the guys developed the taveren connection thing and did absolutely NOTHING with it. It didn't help them in any way, in fact they deliberately tuned each other out. Them communicating more would've made the series much shorter and maybe RJ would've been able to finish it himself.

For me, one of the most frustrating things in the entire series is the general lack of communication both when characters are in proximity to each other and not using gateways.

I would have let Egwene defeat Taim without burning out (what a waste of OP talent) and she wouldn't have committed suicide.

I don't think any author currently publishing can match RJ for the sheer detail of his characters, except maybe Anne Rice. Her Vampire Chronicles series is wonderful. I've been following it for over 25 years.

What's wrong with Min? She just seemed like a typical Saldaean woman to me... Perrin was the one who was too "cuddly" for lack of a better word. RJ overplayed the "gentle giant" on him. At least he wasn't like Mat...He supposed to be leery of channeling, but he marries a woman who can learn, and both his childhood girl-friends and his sister have the spark. "Me thinks he doth protest too much."

What's wrong with Min? She just seemed like a typical Saldaean woman to me... Perrin was the one who was too "cuddly" for lack of a better word. RJ overplayed the "gentle giant" on him. At least he wasn't like Mat...He supposed to be leery of channeling, but he marries a woman who can learn, and both his childhood girl-friends and his sister have the spark. "Me thinks he doth protest too much."

i never skim,i've never even considered doing it,

having said that,perrin was always my biggest problem regarding povs,

i could barely stand him when he was single,when he married his

degenerate wife,perrin became an unbearable pathetic whiner.

one could skip his entire story arc from the end of the shadow rising

until the field of merrilor meeting without missing anything.

to be honest,i would gladly balefire their(the "dynamic duo") entire story

out of the wheel of time world if i could.

Of course not, what is the point of reading a book when I'm skipping whole chapters? Especially when one is told mostly from Egwene's POV (book 13, Egwene's POV has the biggest page count). Or how about CoS? LoC? I don't understand what anyone could possibly get out of reading maybe 200 pages of a 700-page novel...

Oh well, (sigh), will narrow it down later...CoT was long...

In either book 10 or book 11 (I forget which one), Elayne is shown looking at a picture of Ishara and she is described as being dark. That said, notice some people, such as the Domani, are described as being copper-skinned, not dark, which shows a distinction as far as skin tones go. Apparently RJ's definition of "dark" meant more than just ruddy or olive-skinned.

kesiera,where did you find a physical description of ishara?

I think the One Power disappearing was because the trait was bred out of the population, probably because people became afraid of channelers...Maybe during one of the Ages, both sides of the Power were tainted....We don't know anything about Ages 4-7, so anything's possible.

I think that the characters reflect a very diverse group and with that said, I definitely think Tuon is black, but so was Ishara, the first queen of Andor, and Elayne is obviously white. Thousands of years have passed and everything changes. Also, I don't think the native tribes of Seanchan are white and we don't know the racial make-up of Artur's army.

Understanding that there have been (I don't know how) many generations since Artur Paendrag Tanreall, who I assume was caucasian, and his son Luthair Paendrag Mondwin's, but it seems like the Seanchan with true blood ties to Hawkwing, including Tuon, are a very diverse group.

I'm trying to figure out how the hell the story even makes sense if you've only read half of it.

Really it doesn't, but the WHY is what can make that interesting. For instance, imagine reading only Mat and Perrin's POV. How hilarious!

I'm trying to figure out how the hell the story even makes sense if you've only read half of it.

Really it doesn't, but the WHY is what can make that interesting. For instance, imagine reading only Mat and Perrin's POV. How hilarious!

That's an interesting idea, but I'm doubt because we see in AMoL that Power-wrought weapons killed any sort of Shadows pawn with only one blow... Remember Perrin's hammer?

 

 

A lot of people were promised RAFO's and never had it answered in the books. I think Alan and Maria released some clarifications and we were waiting on the companion to answer the rest and it didn't. I'm with those still wanting to know, lol!

But I really thinks leaving many things unanswered is way better than having answers in clay tablets

My biggest peeve is Thom's Second Best knives and the blue lightning. We were RAFO'd and it wasn't answered. I always suspected Thom came across some power-wrought knives, but later editions had that scene changed slightly to the flash happening as Thom met the Myrdraal. Maybe the knives were special ones Lan spoke of that were weapons that used the OP. Maybe they allowed him his Gleeman tricks and to remain spry in his old age. Maybe not power wrought in that sense but Ter'angreal?