Not quite. Spec talk on D1 is not good - spec talk on D1 when you're trying to game the mod who you happen to live with because it's your wife - even worse. Spec talk later in the game when a bunch of info is available - slightly better, but still not super useful.

It is negated because DPR flipped town. And it's by no means a lock clear, not even close. I'm saying that the scenario that we are town neighbors is the most likely one based on other factors (that Zander and I already discussed).

So that means only 1 mafia team has a neighbor and not the other? If you're trying to compare power levels, this won't work as you're kinda making my point for me here. Also, my 1x ability is not an active one. I would prefer not to get into it more than that.

If we're being fair, I've had that read on you since D1 and did not waver. Reassessment is of course something to do if further info pops up. For example, had Key flipped scum, I would have thought differently on your post. Your post looked like pocketing, I wouldn't have thought that if Key was scum. Of course, with 2 mafia teams I might have still sussed it.....but you know what I mean. That said, I disagree with "doubling down without an actual reason". I already gave my reason. I had 1 reason on Lenlo last game, and I was right. I did this whole thing postgame about 'better to be right and lose'. If I lose and you are scum, I'm happy. Like, I've literally had you and Darthe in my WTL since earlier on D1 and somehow I'm moving you to the bottom? Broski, you've been at the bottom this whole time.

So it's less technical and more "feels"?

I'm not sure you paid attention to what I was saying - it was in reference to me not putting a ton of stock in what Zander says about you early on.

k We clearly disagree re: seph, so I'd really like to know why I'm wrong on him.

@Zander? I had seph as a scum lean since early-ish D1, so I'm sticking with my gun there. I didn't have a super lean on Gud either way, but based on DPR's read and her reactions today, she's gotta be #2 for me. That leaves Dice as 3rd based on POE. Without Gud's recent posts, I would have had her and Dice tied, but her posts feel different now. Townie Dice Gud seph Scum

That is false. It says they don't have to be, but also acknowledges they typically have other powers. I do have a 1x ability, as DPR did. Mine is not RBer, though - I'll say that much.

He literally starts each game with that kind of talk. In case you were wondering, I was talking about not listening to HIM here - it had nothing to do with you. What are you calling a distraction?

I've never seen a 1 person mafia team - they were always called a SK if they had a kill and a survivor if they didn't.

Yes, but I wasn't really paying that much attention to your read on her because the whole pocket joke makes it hard to know if you were sus or not. it was both

Yep. Which is why I was going to reveal today regardless - just makes sense. Funny how Gud then acts like she's "got me", though. A little snarky for the normally even keel and calm player we've known thus far, no?

Fair play, heh. (bastard!)

@Zander? I have a couple posts like this, where I have Key as the "other townie", and then state my WTL with the rest below the line....aka what DPR has as well.

Hold the line, caller.

I'll try to find you my post - it stated Key as the townie and darthe/seph as the scum.

Just remember, like DPR, I have a 1x role in addition to being his townie neighbor.

If somebody counterclaimed me, that would mean one of us is lying. Kill them both, because one of them is scum.

You're welcome. Now go read the neighbor one, look at how there are 2 mafias in this game, and then realize there's no way only 1 of them got to have a "neighbor". We are not Masons because we also have other abilities - Masons don't typically have that, as they are more powerful by themselves.

(there won't be a cc, because I'm not lying)

I didn't, and I'm not sure if he did. I didn't notice it if he did. I'd be super happy to have a cc here - then you just kill us both. That would be worth it, imo.

Read my previous post to you. If you recall, I had Key as town. We disagreed on seph and Key - I thought seph scum and Key town.....and he thought the reverse.

If you think you're actually manipulating me, you're not. I was going to reveal after DPR's death anyway. So you go from acting like you have no idea, and then saying you laid out a carrot? Might as well claim at this point, no?

@Zander? Also, think about why I'd reveal this. Neighbor is not a Mason, there's obviously a chance we could have been alternate alignments. But if I was a mafia member, why is only 1 team represented here? Why not 3, and have 1 member from both mafia teams and a townie? Makes no sense, right?