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Orange7

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  1. Demandred was one of the Shadows foremost generals during the War of Power. In addition, he has millions of deaths on his record. I think that is a little different than keeping his hands clean. Also, his entire motivation for going to the shadow was hating Rand, and holding a grudge for more than 3,000 years doesn't make it seem like he'd listen to reason, even if he were sane. It would be nice, but it is extremely unlikely.
  2. The Night Angel Trilogy by Brent Weeks.
  3. I'm surprised that nobody chose Erith.... In all seriousness, though, I would definitely choose Min.
  4. I agree with several of those topics, but Mat giving up the high ground is perfectly justifiable. Considering the use of gateways, the advantage means much less than it normally would have, and you need to consider that you are facing a huge number of channellers, even without Demandred, who can appear out of nowhere at any moment without warning. Leaving your men exposed on the top of a hill, with the enemy already knowing your entire formation, is suicide. I agree that he should have focused everything that he had on that spot in preparation for the Sharans' arrivals, but honestly, with all of their channellers, I doubt it would have mattered in the end. Demandred alone could have killed every channeller they had, and if they had started attacking him outright, he might have.
  5. 1. The Gathering Storm 2. Lord of Chaos 3. The Shadow Rising 4. The Dragon Reborn 5. The Great Hunt 6. Eye of the World 7. Crown of Swords 8. Winter's Heart 9. A Memory of Light 10. The Fires of Heaven 11. Path of Daggers 12. Knife of Dreams 13. Towers of Midnight 14. Crossroads of Twilight
  6. I can think of several scenarios, but my personal favorite is this: Demandred realizes that Rand went to Shayol Ghul, and so Demandred actually attempts to follow him, traveling to an area nearby the battle at Shayol Ghul, because travelling in there would be suicide. As he approaches, Demandred runs into Fain, and he has some form of cataclysmic three way fight with Padin Fain and his crazed minions and the Light armies. Even with Mat bringing the forces from Merillor to help, the Light has almost no chance. Fain Mashadar's most of the people in Demandred's circle, and almost ends up getting Demandred himself by using his own circle of 72 against him, and he manages to destroy sakarnen/blow it out of Demandred's grip. In the last moments, as he is distracted with killing Demandred, Fain is stabbed in the back by Mat. Demandred, now weakened, is brought down by other circles/flees.
  7. Come on guys... No love for Rand at the top of Dragonmount, Perrin at Malden, any of the battle scenes, Moridin's (pre-Amol) interactions, or any of the BT stuff? There were quite a few good parts. They just happened to have quite a few bad parts surrounding them. It doesn't make the books completely worthless.
  8. "Honestly if someone asked me for my commendation on the series I'd tell them to read books 1-5 and ready the plot summaries of the rest to find out what happens. And if they tell me they'd rather not do that I'd recommend skipping it all together. I cannot in good conscious recommend books 6-14, there are too many better ways to spend one's time than to ready almost ten thousand pages of that." Honestly, Several of those books were quite good. Large parts of 9,10, 13, and 14 are crap, but most of them are still salvageable, and 6,7, 8, 11, and 12 were all pretty good. If anything, you may want to tell your friend to at least go until Path of Daggers. LOC and COS were both good, and POD wasn't too bad, so they may still get some entertainment out of them. Honestly, WH wasn't all that bad either, but it was where it started to get a little painful in places, and it leaves a lot of cliffhangers that make it impossible not to read on (Which would mean COT, *shudder*).
  9. I would probably just hide up in some area like the mountains of mist or the spine, where no one would find me. I would play around with it for a while, and if I didn't die before I went crazy, at least there would be no one around when I did.
  10. About Ishy... I'm not sure that he was given protection while before the bore weakened. However, he was partially trapped, appearing only a few times per century. Perhaps the fact that he was mad by the first few novels is a a reflection of his small brushes with channelling tainted saidin over the eons.
  11. Back to the "how many suldam per damane?" discussion. Considering that sul'dam are tested for at the same age as damane, then assuming that each was chosen around 20 years of age (16-21, but rounded for simplicity), they would likely only spend 50-60 years (we'll also round up to 60 here for simplicity) with an a'dam. Damane should live somewhere between 500 and 600 years. On average, channelers in the age of legends lived between 600 and 700, but considering that the highest we have heard of in the modern era has been 606(I believe?) during one of Elayne's comments to Nynaeve about the Kin's longevity, and considering that it wasn't uncommon in the Age of Legends for non-channellers to live between 150 and 200 years, I think that 500-600 might be an adequate number. We can just call it 560 for convenience. Assuming the numbers above, each da'mane will be leashed for approximately 540 years, while each sul'dam will only hold the leash for 60 years. This leaves us at 1 da'mane per every 9 sul'dam, assuming that the numbers were even at all times. We know, however, that they are not, and it is implied throughout the novels that there are between 4 and 5 sul'dam per da'mane. At this ratio, we can determine that there should be between 36 and 45 sul'dam born for every da'mane. However, any estimation such as this fails to take into account that the consolidation of the Seanchan empire occurred less than 200 years prior to the story. The death tolls from that would result in a population of da'mane today that would be lower than normal conditions, while the sul'dam population would be unharmed. I would redact about 10% of the sul'dam population as compensation, calling the normal ratio as existing between 32 and 41 sul'dam per da'mane.
  12. However, it is important to note that crossing the streams (balefire burning balefire) is what connected Rand and Moridin in the first place. I don't know if we can predict what can happen if the results of balefire can burn itself out of existence, because some pretty crazy stuff has occurred with it in the past. It may even be that it simply doesn't kill you, which would explain why Moridin didn't simply balefire himself and end it all. I'm not saying that the above statements are false, but I'm not sure if we can prove the validity of any argument in this case.
  13. I think that I suck and my opinions are worthless, because I am obviously missing a crucial detail/ not thinking logically/ a bloody flaming son of a goat. The books were so much better/worse than I previously stated, because I failed to take into account something. In all seriousness, though, I felt that AMOL, like every other novel in the series, had it's ups and downs. Also, I greatly enjoyed the comment that someone posted earlier about the differences between RJ and BS when it came to conversation. I thought that something seemed slightly off, but I never actually looked enough to realize that the characters' "thought commentary" was missing. Looking back, however, that does definitely detract somewhat, although I still found the battles pleasing to the senses, and I loved the scene where the people of Hinderstap are shown to be repeatedly fighting. Nice touch.
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