Anyone know of any other places to find the wheel of time Leather-bound books or Legends? 

I have just about every single lathered bound book except a few select few. 

Have a few of the first 3 as well just not signed. Have been watching Ebay for over a decade and want to complete my collection..... 1 day ☺ 

Member posted his collection in 2013 and wish I bought it. 

6 hours ago, KakitaOCU said:

Actually, I thought about this.  They would have had to know the army didn't break up and were on the move.  Why not leave "Gaps" to draw them in for an attack so they can be dealt with instead of letting them roam all over the place doing who knows what.

Examples: L. E. Modesitt Jr: The White Order: a character finds a smuggling tunnel in the sewers and finds out it is never boarded up.  Because then the next tunnel would be... who knows.
Example 2: Infinity War.  The enemy starts circling the shields on Wakanda trying to get in anywhere.  Which means they'd be impossible to defend against entirely.  So they deliberately open one place so the enemy stays focused where they can try and manage it.
 

 

We also know that Sanderson specifically is allowed to be critical and has been on some moments.

I love that you compare L.E. Modesitt. He is my other go to writer, I dont think he gets enough respect. I just find the whole show odd if you read all the books as you understand the message and vibe. My friends who all watched the show and did not read enjoyed it ?, but they also are not analyzing the magic system, why Person A could not Stop B, etc. 

I think that we as readers who know the characters , what they represent, and understand them, are getting more upset as we have lived their lives for over 23+ years. Then after (if your like me LOTS of ? Re-re-reads), all this time you are like Why are you butchering my vision. Sadly it seems we all had the same vision so its annoying the Show couldn't keep it Real

2 hours ago, Skipp said:

There is plenty of things in this show that could be considered a mess.  Lan not being able to stop shrapnel from hitting Moiraine isn't one of them.

@Testeria for sure. @Skippagreed. Bottom line is Lan was the ultimate Warrior, Tam messed stuff up. Now both struggle to be one of the highest level warriors. We'll see what Season 2 brings.

EDIT: I did think though... IN the books Lan was ALWAYS   doubling back and covering everyones (Moiraine's) tracks over the years. So.... we have a serious lower level squad ?

Not that I want to open your can of worms, but:

1. Issue brought up: Lan not being the badass master warrior of every form of warfare as shown in the books:

    I agree, the only message that goes around his ability to not track Moraine correctly...The show making it that he has always tracked her by the bond & now she is in the blight. If even a glimmer of the books holds, the blight shifts & with the bond gone, he never paid attention to her any other way....

"Tell" Far Fetched but only conclusion I could draw from the book changes

2. Fails to protect Morraine when she was shielding Logain,

     Not sure really how he would guard her from Shrapnel as it happened instantaneously. 

3. When he fails to spot the whole (Logain) army coming,

    I agree with @KakitaOCU, Lan was in a camp with an army of warders and Aes Sedai, he was not the one on Guard duty. What the question should really be asking is, WTF happened that a whole army of Warders was not scouting while guarding Logain. That is the real question.

4. When he allows Morraine to enter ways unprotected,

    Change from Books, in the books, Lan is always the first one to enter, but remember in the books you did not need the power to open the ways. Not defending Lan, but the show has changed all aspects of almost every character we know and it is a completely different story with hopefully the same ending. 

5. When he fails to protect the team in the ways,

    I may be wrong but the Trolloc came from down below. Which also should be impossible as you cant climb anything it is a dead drop down.... So not sure how he would have caught something from below and since they can't use the power they cant shield. I also agree the ways were a WTF moment.

6. - when he allows Morraine to leave to the eye because he was busy with the girl.

I think Moraine is the one who left him intentionally & Lan did nothing wrong. Moraine is going to do whatever the "F" she wants to do and always has in the books. To me this was quite in character, but I was more surprised he just did not ride off into the Blight immediately. For we know they are going into the Eye and the Eye unlike the books is a stationary place so TECHNICALLY it should be quite easy to find by this new logic system of the show.

I think a lot of book readers (like me) are more complaining that so many liberties were taken when the show was presented a very different way. To me this is a bait and switch. If they had given any spoiler like this prior, Amazon for sure would know many book readers would not watch and shut down the show before it began. 

But I would think that Robert Jordan's wife, TOR and all people who have handled the intellectual property are VERY aware of what was done with the show. The fact that there is silence from them, says clearly RAFO (AKA WAFO - Watch and Find OUT) 

Bit odd the silence but what else could we gleam as they are quite vocal when someone crosses the boundary.

Everyone I know who did not read the books would watch again. 

All had the same complaints:

1. Why such shoddy CGI 

2. Why so short

3. Is a survivor contestant with no clear track record the right man for the job? Why didn't they choose someone with experience like a Peter Jackson or Favreau?

I think the best response again is seeing the ridiculously low rating the show plummeted down to after episode 8 on Rotten Tomatoes

45 minutes ago, bringbackthomsmoustache said:

What dragon?  Goblins, orks, elves, ents, trolls, a balrog and the winged mounts of the nazgul are all not dragons.  

It was a pun and my whole point. LOTR + Hobbit as well. They ALL looked better then the CGI we are seeing. 

The Balrog looked more realistic than all this CGI and that's 20 year old technology 

"Big difference in xp. Balrogs and dragons vs gobs and orcs." 

My XP bar is through the roof just from the re reads ? 

Personally, 

I've been reading the books since Eye of the World came out. I've read them over 18 times. 

I re-read, Eye of the World just for this season. To say I'm underwhelmed is an understatement. Meanwhile my friends who never read the books enjoyed this finale. Key point  they NEVER  read the books

Yet we all have the same issues, 

 1.Poor CGI

2  Production dollars don't show. 

3. Editing, cutting and flow feel like a college student at times put it together. 

4. Writing could use serious work. 

5. In the books each city, nation had its own culture, accent, dress. They weren't a melting pot. I get we want to show a diaspora of nations living everywhere but only the tinkers seems to follow this thread. 

Story line, I think we are very far past it being aligned. I read enough viewpoints and agree now it had to be done for TV. Yet, did it have to be brutalized so harshly? 

I think the writers wanted to take key points and out them all into this finale likr a bullet point list. 

It does not flow nor make sense. I.e. Horn ? of Valere is under the throne? Lime seriously.... 

Nyn being cute from what looks like death? 

Seal of the Dark one being that big? 

If this what's 100m looks like we're screwed and I really hope they step up as I'm not impressed. 

For $100m it should be art and stand the test of time lime LOTR does 20 years later. The dragon there looks better from 20 years ago than any of the CGI we saw here. 

Personally, 

I've been reading the books since Eye of the World came out. I've read them over 18 times. 

I re-read, Eye of the World just for this season. To say I'm underwhelmed is an understatement. Meanwhile my friends who never read the books enjoyed this finale. Key point  they NEVER  read the books

Yet we all have the same issues, 

1. Poor CGI

2  Production dollars don't show. 

3. Editing, cutting and flow feel like a college student at times put it together. 

4. Writing could use serious work. 

Story line, I think we are very far past it being aligned. I read enough viewpoints and agree now it had to be done for TV. Yet, did it have to be brutalized so harshly? 

I think the writers wanted to take key points and out them all into this finale like a bullet point list. 

It does not flow nor make sense. I.e. Horn ? of Valere is under the throne? Like seriously.... 

Or any of the other drastic changes. 

Nyn being cured from what looks like death? 

Seal of the Dark one being that big? 

If this is what 100m looks like we're screwed and I really hope they step up as I'm not impressed. 

For $100m it should be art and stand the test of time lime LOTR does 20 years later. The dragon there looks better from 20 years ago than any of the CGI we saw here. 

Quick question, I have been gone for the last few years and just rejoined the forums. How do we change the view count when viewing a thread.

I.E if it has 20 threads per page can I up this so all the replies show on one page?

Thanks!!!