@SinisterDeath Dang when'd you get control of things? This episode is what solidified to me that this could truly be a great franchise

Go Seahawks!!! (Yeah, every group has one.)

Relevant username :P

Whose ready for this snoozer of a game tonight??

lmaoooo

Also as a Niners fan, that was the most BS OPI call ever, wtf

The Bills D-line is still fairly nasty now that they're back into a 4-3.  They have some solid LBs too, I think the majority of their problems begin in the secondary.  On the other hand on offense, they have a great offensive line with Glenn/Incognito/Wood.  Pass catchers, especially without Matthews is a problem, but McCoy and Taylor is huge for their running game, not to mention their dual FBs with Tolbert (solid FB weapon, but that only) and DiMarco (best run blocking FB in the league).

Dolphins match them fairly well on the D-line, I'd say a little weaker on LBs, but def stronger in the secondary.  They also have a great RB in Ajayi, but their OL is more of a ?. Better pass catchers, and better passing QB though.  I think Bills and Dolphins finish with a very similar year, not trash, but not wildcard either.

Lmao I'm dying.  Not gonna lie though, that Pats-Chiefs game felt so sweet to watch.

 

Anyone else watch yesterday's game? That was sooo much fun to watch.

 

I was surprised, not gonna lie. Though I think it's too early to consider KC a legit contender and more so to rule out NE. Their respective end of season records will probably speak more volumes, just like last year when KC blew out the Pats at home early on.

 

I think that was like 3 years ago, but point taken.  That being said, I was one of the very few that was predicting a KC win tonight, I've always thought they were severely underrated.  That being said, I didn't expect a performance like that from Hunt or Smith, I thought it'd be a much lower scoring game.

Anyone else watch yesterday's game? That was sooo much fun to watch.

I'm with Basel.  Football is here.  And boy oh boy was that first game fun to see

You got sniped Basel :/

Inkheart

Game of Thrones ;(

Go town! It was fun playing myself hehehe

Oh well :( Last scum reads are Marsh and SK fwiw

 

 

Let's give our moddess some more work.

 

[v]Rand[/v]

Ok so there's like 4 minutes to make a better decision, so like pls, since there's no one else here, I'm talking directly to you

 

Yeah, I know, but I'm not lynching SK.

 

Well there's 100% that you're lynching town here, so SK has got to be better than that

Once again, in case you didn't see it, I'm Rand al'Thor, vanilla town, good guy, etc.

Let's give our moddess some more work.

 

[v]Rand[/v]

Ok so there's like 4 minutes to make a better decision, so like pls, since there's no one else here, I'm talking directly to you

 

 

 

 

Rand, you yourself said that there was no reason for SK to cc LZM when he did as scum. There was every reason to as town. He could see how LZM responded. He could see how others responded, not only to the initial cc, but also to his retraction.

But he didn't.  He disappeared after retracting his claim.  How do you explain that?

 

He doesn't have to be here to read the posts immediately when they happen. 

 

 

It wasn't immediately when they happened though, he was gone for several days, including a period where his confirmation of "ccing to get information" would have helped town progress and then analyze as a group the reactions that had occurred.  Instead, he chose to retract, then not join in discussion or scumhunting.  That to me is a much more clear sign that he didn't want to draw attention to what he did

 

There's no way a retraction wouldn't garner even more attention. Had he been scum he could have powered through a LZM lynch on D1, then, assuming he himself would have been lynched on D2 he would have left his partner with just a couple more mislynches to get.

 

Do you know for sure that he only has one partner?

Also, he probably realized that once he got lynched, his partner would be in an awkward situation and tried to save himself, which apparently seems to be working almost decently

Also, I know that character claims don't mean much here, but like, some slight discussion of it would be nice, even just a lmao his character is his username :/

Yam

 

 

Rand, you yourself said that there was no reason for SK to cc LZM when he did as scum. There was every reason to as town. He could see how LZM responded. He could see how others responded, not only to the initial cc, but also to his retraction.

But he didn't.  He disappeared after retracting his claim.  How do you explain that?

 

He doesn't have to be here to read the posts immediately when they happen. 

 

It wasn't immediately when they happened though, he was gone for several days, including a period where his confirmation of "ccing to get information" would have helped town progress and then analyze as a group the reactions that had occurred.  Instead, he chose to retract, then not join in discussion or scumhunting.  That to me is a much more clear sign that he didn't want to draw attention to what he did

Rand, you yourself said that there was no reason for SK to cc LZM when he did as scum. There was every reason to as town. He could see how LZM responded. He could see how others responded, not only to the initial cc, but also to his retraction.

But he didn't.  He disappeared after retracting his claim.  How do you explain that?

 

Personally I have found his tone towny, but that's all I have on Rand.

Can you point at exactly what has been good about his tone? 

 

He got stuck on SK scum because he counter claimed a character claim early on and retracted, which there is absolutely no reason in the world for scum to do. 

 

First of all, the fact that "scum would never do this" is exactly a good reason for scum to do something.

Second of all, it was a way to cast doubt on someone that he might've known that was town, and I'm not going to argue it was a good strategy, and I personally believe that it could've been a mistake as well that he had to back off from.

Third of all, his complete inability to follow up on his move makes me feel like he was told to lay low and let things blow over.

 

 

 

Personally I have found his tone towny, but that's all I have on Rand.

Can you point at exactly what has been good about his tone?

 

He got stuck on SK scum because he counter claimed a character claim early on and retracted, which there is absolutely no reason in the world for scum to do.

No, I can't point out anything specific. Now that you point that out I'm realizing that my reasoning for town reading him was pretty thin.

 

Huh.

 

He has generated a bunch of content. He has quoted many many posts, and on the first glance, his posts look like he's doing the work. The analysis is lacking though, and even in his first post of D2 where he's touching on the whole LZM/SK situation he concludes that there's no reason for scum to counter claim where SK did, but he's then talking himself back into voting for SK. It reads hollow.

 

There's no basic reason for town to do what SK did either.  By necessity, we have to look at what unlikely things that may have gone through Sk's mind.

I voted lzm to see his reaction/ how others would react.

I find it so weird that the moment Niniel pings you saying you have to pick up activity, you come in with the most general restatement of what LZM and Nyn said you might be doing.

I think ben is most suspicious now. has self proclaimed confusion. I am not sure about rand. I would be okay lynching infiniti's slot.

Is self proclaimed confusion a scumtell, and why?  And infiniti because of  inactivity? Because there hasn't been much there.

Wow. That was a lot easier than I expected. Nothing has happened... I'm still reticent to lynch SK, but I don't know if lynching rand is any better. Well, they say you only live once.

 

[V]Rand[/v]

I'm about to only live once if you continue this nonsense. Keep in mind that both trains only have 2 votes, so its not like you can't start a train you prefer.  This seems very bandwagony to me, scum lean here.

I wish I knew SK and Rand better. The multiquote loooooooong posts from Rand are making my eyes run over and I can't concentrate. On the other hand SK is playing in an interesting way, but I have no idea how to interpret the attitude I sense from him.

Sorry about that :/ That's like most of my posts, I literally just catch up, multiquote as I go, and then respond.  I feel like I'm one of the few now who'll still do long posts like this.  It used to be more common, and people were crazier than I was about walls of text.

SK is definitely playing more open, or was at least.  However him right now is very conservative.

 

 

 

Why, if he is not Sammael, would he cc if he is town?

To see who hops on and gives him support. Then he could see who hops on the wagon, and then use that info to try and narrow down suspects. Since there was no support, I'm tempted to think scum didn't fall for the ruse.

 

I could be off base here by a mile though. For now I'm thinking SK to be town.

 

 

I don't think I agree with this.  To do this accurately, he would have to know if the other Sammael (you) was town or scum.  Otherwise he'd get no info.

 

Wut? Explain please, Rand.

 

If he was trying to analyze the people who were voting/arguing for or against LZM, it'd be very hard for him to figure out what was happening if he didn't know whether LZM was telling the truth or lying (town or mafia).  If he didn't know LZM's role, then seeing people who hopped onto him, or stayed off, wouldn't give too much certain information.

 

At the time it looked like it. Can't remember the math but I think her vote changed a tie. But it was all confused cause everyone was moving votes

Currently I'm looking at Rand as probably my most likely scum, but I wish people would come talk to me about it. 

 

Why should or shouldn't I be voting for Rand? 

 

 

 

 

And yeah, I did hammer Lessa reluctantly, because I didn't see much of a case on her, and I liked SK more as a lynch (and he's still my top scum candidate).  Doesn't necessarily mean I'm bad though, more like a null tell given how strongly I felt on SK.

 

 

Ok, ngl, I look realllly bad here haha.  Same thing as above though, I just didn't feel sure about Lessa, and did feel sure about SK, so I felt like the Lessa train was a distraction.

 

There is so much I don't like about this post.

 

:/ I'm just trying to be honest about what happened and why i did it.

Also, there's 26 minutes left till DL, and I'm tied for the vote lead, so I guess I might as well claim, but I'm my namesake, Rand al'Thor.  I'm well aware that so far it looks like the bad guys and good guys have switched sides at this point (bad guys are good guys in WoT and vice versa), but based on my role, I'm guessing that Niniel just threw in the characters and chose their alignment randomly.

I disagree with lynching SK.

Why?  I understand what you think he may have done, but he hasn't even come in to support that himself yet.

I don't think characters mean anything. I don't think the flavor has any relation to alignment. 

I guess I set myself up for the gif. Well done!

I am not bothered by the "haha" comments, and I am not bothered by switching votes over the counterclaim, but switching to the Lessa train when she was already going down looked like opportunism to me.

I've been in games where the flavor has actually been important before, idk if this is one of them, and it's definitely not something to latch onto for sure, but maybe something to just keep in the back of our mind.

 

 

it's the black tower so I pick food

Apple dumplings.

 

Literally what I suggested pre-edit haha

 

Gulabjamun

 

(Indian dessert, if you haven't had it before, try it out, its to die for)

It sounds delicious!

 

Do you have a k though lol?

 

.... this is very embarassing...  I swear I know how the alphabet works, I was just enveloped by my love of gulabjamun

kale

My problem is that I look at the people I think will develop and pick them  but frequently don't pull the trigger on starting my hunches and then go "how could I have left those 25 points on my bench. Curse you Ingram!!!" Also picking AP in the first last year didn't help any.

 

does Yahoo make you draft an entire team? Meaning a Defense and a Kicker?  

I think so? Not entirely sure though.

And lol, I have that problem all the time.

it's the black tower so I pick food

 

Apple dumplings.

Literally what I suggested pre-edit haha

Gulabjamun

(Indian dessert, if you haven't had it before, try it out, its to die for)