it kinda is lazy, yet I can derail my own rain with 3 words if I chose to. :)

I'm not going to explain anything to someone I don't read as town.

and it's what you guys deserve because of how this game has been.

no, I have been 100% honest, I'm legitimately bored. I don't like this meta, I don't like how people refuse to read into anything. This will 100% be my last mafia game ever, if this is what the meta has become.

also, my request was to just be removed no flip. I had no desire to leave behind any info. Imo you don't deserve it with how lazy this game has felt.

people stopped talking in thread when I refused to give one DPR literally threw out 3 posts complaining about how I wouldn't give a list and then just left. Then for an extended period of time no one talked. So How else am I supposed to feel?

no, what's the point of subtlty if people only care when it's stated out right. I will say this, why would I as town purposefully be bull headed and draw heat? I'm bored the game was so focused on lists and not communicating, not reading between the lines, the change in meta is trash. I disagree. Reads are helpful, these readless lists are dog shit because it gives mafia an idea of who to hide behind. not really because he was pestering others for lists without releasing one. I don't like this meta, but as my request was denied, I am stuck finishing the game, I am not gonna force someone to come in and follow up my strategy not a crashout, I'm bored and think this meta sucks, I wasted time on this yesterday when I had other things I had wanted to do.

well I should say next Key vote count, because Ithi can't approve the request.

I've already asked to be offed. If I'm still here after the next vote count it'll be because the request was denied. This will be my last game.

On that note, I'll return closer to deadline, I just can't be assed. I will not ask to be replaced because the last time I used this strategy I also left the game early for another reason and Ithi was the one that took over then too, and this is a rough strategy to come in to. I don't want Ithi to have to experience it twice since Ithi was the one that asked me to play. So that being said, if I do leave the game I will be asking to just get killed off.

I've said all I'm going to say. if you guys can't figure out what I've given you, maybe you'll realize the lists with no reason stuff is bs. 8 years ago you post a list with no reasons you'd be the first target. Now it's just the norm and it's a garbage way to play the game, if you don't want to read and think about the things people are saying, then why are you here?

it's definitely helpful, Peace's play hasn't been helpful to the town. Peace feels very mafia aligned.

I'm not mafia, but nice try, if you truly remembered my style, you'd know why I'm so annoyed by this playstyle. Everything you need to know about me in this game has been posted by me in this game thread.

nah, if the list thing is just how it's gonna be, I'll be re-retiring after this game. I posted my one and only full list.

well the fire thing wasn't a metaphor, it's literally the strategy I've been using. However, I've never been one to say things bluntly unless I have a solid read on someone.

I returned only because Ithi tracked me down and asked me to join in, but I kinda wish I turned her down. This game feels nothing like the games I remember.

I wasn't talking about you specifically. Conversation just literally stopped after I refused, then Darthe came in for a few posts but that's it. Tigs hasn't posted an update on her progress in awhile.

except when I refused, people stopped interacting with my posts, everyone is too lazy to give deep reading like the old days. I'm not having fun because all people care about are lists, there's none of the subtlety and casing that I used to love about this game.

I'm not feeling pressured I'm bored, this whole list thing apparently somehow became the norm and it's terrible and I'm bored.

if there is something scary in the woods, just light the woods on fire, even the scary ones have to be afraid then.

If activity doesn't pick up I may ask to be replaced, I'm bored.

This is dumb as heck, I can't believe people just stopped trying to play just because I refused to put my reads down in list format...

this list crap is dumb, if this is what Mafia has become I should have stayed retired, and this may be my last game unless I see some real effort put in going forward. Fine if it will get people actually looking at content and not at useless lists I'll post what I've already said multiple times in list format. Town: 1: me Null: (I don't trust none of ya'll it's day 1) 2: Tigs 3: Teph 4: Dice 5: Turin 6: DPR 7: Ed 8: Darthe Probably Mafia: (based on my current reads and gut feelings) 9: Sinister 10: Heavy 11: Peace

and answer me this Darthe, how does it make sense that you have me listed as probably mafia with 2 of my top 3 targets?

you never answered how Heavy was "cleared"