I don't think I believe you

Or - possibly - Lanfear.. who knows how the Bore was made.

That's actually a very neat idea. Quite the twist. You have my vote, just for the fun of it.

Come and join the thread!

Or - possibly - Lanfear.. who knows how the Bore was made.

It's in ACoS35:

"What good to tell him (Rand) he would almost certainly fail without a woman who was dead and gone?"

AFAIK it's not confirmed that she means Moiraine; in fact Moiraine isn't even in her thoughts at that point. Nor is any other woman, though.

Going back to this question:

I've been doing a reread and I somehow seemed to have missed the revelation that the Oath Rod causes agelessness. I've gone from Elayne pondering the mystery of the Kin to everyone knowing. So can someone give me the chapter where it's all explained?

I've just come across something on my re-read, which shows that there seems to be more involved than the Oath Rod:

The glow of saidar surrounded Amys and Melaine, and flows of Air lifted the fiery-haired man {Couladin} and flung him back a dozen paces.

 

Egwene stared, wide-eyed. They could channel. At least, two of them could. Suddenly Amys's youthfully smooth features beneath that white hair leaped out at her for what they were, something very close to Aes Sedai agelessness.

(emphasis mine)

A random thought popped into my head and I doubt anyone will know the answer, but here goes: why is Logain always refered to by his first name, and Taim by his last name. It's never Mazrim and it's never Ablar. It's always Logain and Taim. Any reason for this?

Name order varies in the real world. Many if not most Far Eastern countries, and parts of Africa, put the family name first, while Europe and the Americas put the family name last. So 'Logain' could perhaps be his family name.

(Sometimes, public figures such as sportsmen from the Far East sometimes adopt the Western convention.)

What info do we have on the strength needed for various weaves? For example, in one of the discussions there is talk about using gateways to cut or using Air blades. Do we know which would require more effort to achieve a similar effect?

We do know (TGH47) that Hawkwing and LTT (or their souls) have fought both on the same side and on opposite sides through the Ages.. but not which of them was on the side of the Light. Could have been either, or neither.

Looks like a meta-disagreement here..

Quite the contrary, I'd say, with something as mired in uncertainties as this is!

I thought that was the one she meant, but like you, I find it unsatisfactory, and I wondered if - Terez - you had anything more definite. Certainly that (very good) SH-W dialogue identifies Graendal as at least involved in Asmo's death, which is all that that Glossary tells us.

RAFO, I suppose. And quite possibly, not even then, of course..

Did he say how? Can you direct us to the relevant quote?

Well, she was responsible for his death, though we don't know exactly how. Recall that she was also 'responsible' for Aran'gar's death, though it was actually Rand who killed him/her when he BF'd Grae's stronghold.

(See ToM Glossary: Graendal)

TY to Rose.

Good, thanks.

Possibly a silly question, but can a (sufficiently strong) channeller, or circle of channellers, shield more than one person at a time?

A wayward, and not too serious thought... Was ToM called that because it was the 13th book....?

Immovable object, meet irresistable force..

@csarmi: not looking to prove anything, just waiting to see how it would affect things.

Wait til someone feeds it to Fortuona (mslf)..

Wouldn't surprise me!

Another thought: Are sul'dam vulnerable to the 'wilder sickness' that kills three out of four untrained channellers?

When we first meet Urien (TGH28) he sees Verin, and greets her respectfully as 'Wise One'. When Verin asks hm why, he says: 'You have the look of those who have made the journey to Rhuidean and survived. The years do not touch the Wide Wise Ones in the same way as other women, or as they touch men.'

Was this an error on RJ's part? Or is Urien a DF, giving a plausible reason for knowing Verin?

Of that group, Mat is (I think) the only one who later meets actual Aiel Wise Ones.. but this meeting with Urien was before he is healed from the dagger, so this may be one of the memories that he loses.

(Edited for unfortunate spilling mistrake.. )

It's not really a simple question, but I'll say here what I thought of mentioning there.

 

ta'veren are just as fallible as the next guy (see Rand with Taim, for example, or Mat's attempting to flee Cairhien). But their effect on the Pattern works for the general plan. In this way, their pull on people and events shouldn't be doubted the same way they should.

 

For example, if Nynaeve is helpless to oppose Rand's plan to break the Seals because of his ta'veren nature, then his plan should be heeded. On the other hand, if she supports him just because she's wool-headed, that's a horse of a different color

My read-through has reached TGH3, and here Loial says:

"For a while, the Wheel will bend the Pattern around you three, whatever you do. And whatever you do is more likely to be chosen by the Wheel than by you. Ta'veren pull history along behind them and shape the Pattern just by being, but the Wheel weaves ta'veren on a tighter line than other men. Wherever you go and whatever you do, until the Wheel chooses otherwise you will - "

And then Mat furiously cuts him off.

So yes, I'd say that Rand's pull on Nynaeve should certainly be heeded!

Wool-headed? Nynaeve?

This question has come up in another thread: can a ta'veren do no wrong? Can and should they be trusted and left alone to do what they think best?

For: they are part of the Wheel's self-correcting mechanism.

Against: Rand nearly blew the world to bits with the CK (though he may have been stopped by the TAR-presence of another ta'veren).

Is this a question for Team WoT? Has it been asked before?