[Basic] I <3 the 90's Mafia: Music Edition - TOWN WINS!

Lizabeth · June 15, 2016

If I'm still alive after night I'll iso Alanna to form a proper opinion there.

Sili has been in my town core for a while now and the only thing that can remove him from there is tinfoil from me... I'm hesitant

Did you actually read my iso?

Sili Quirrels · June 15, 2016

I'll take a small break now. Come back with coffee. And go back to work best I can.

Lizabeth · June 15, 2016

like if you want to be honest about this game, you read my interactions with clov and it really is never ever w/w. there is way too much genuine frustration and confusion there for it to be orchestrated. Clov also went at me first and I responded best I could and got frustrated later. I was one of the only people calling him out on his unimpressive logic, and Clov responded like I was being stupid. I didn't want to hammer clov right away because I wasn't sure about lily, but I changed my mind a little when I was reading Lily's iso and saw that there was no signs she was a wolf. I also just like pressing buttons and that's an entirely different topic XD

Now, you guys are free to tear apart my 850 posts because I've said a lot. Lot of stupid things. Lot of good things. That's how it goes when you post as much I have, and there's nothing I really can do to stop any of you from doing that, but please try if you're town to actually be honest with yourselves.

Hold up. Sorry, breaking my promise again.

But seriously?

You just spent the other night in a circular argument with me over my use of the phrase "next to impossible" as it pertained to Lenny and Kat being scum partners, and now this is the second time you're using the phrase "never", this time trying to use it to distance yourself from Clov?

Your hypocrisy is showing...again.

Sili Quirrels · June 15, 2016

Your iso wasn't very convincing. Opinion - me.

Lizabeth · June 15, 2016

Your iso wasn't very convincing. Opinion - me.

Yes and your opinion really matters here, because if it were convincing to you, you'd just say "oh yes, Liz is right, I'm actually scum"

Sili Quirrels · June 15, 2016

like if you want to be honest about this game, you read my interactions with clov and it really is never ever w/w. there is way too much genuine frustration and confusion there for it to be orchestrated. Clov also went at me first and I responded best I could and got frustrated later. I was one of the only people calling him out on his unimpressive logic, and Clov responded like I was being stupid. I didn't want to hammer clov right away because I wasn't sure about lily, but I changed my mind a little when I was reading Lily's iso and saw that there was no signs she was a wolf. I also just like pressing buttons and that's an entirely different topic XD

Now, you guys are free to tear apart my 850 posts because I've said a lot. Lot of stupid things. Lot of good things. That's how it goes when you post as much I have, and there's nothing I really can do to stop any of you from doing that, but please try if you're town to actually be honest with yourselves.

Hold up. Sorry, breaking my promise again.

But seriously?

You just spent the other night in a circular argument with me over my use of the phrase "next to impossible" as it pertained to Lenny and Kat being scum partners, and now this is the second time you're using the phrase "never", this time trying to use it to distance yourself from Clov?

Your hypocrisy is showing...again.

I have tmi. Supposedly. You do not. supposedly.

Also, I was making a rhetorical argument and that's pretty clear by the tone of the post I feel. You're conflating the two and it's not exactly sound thinking.

Sili Quirrels · June 15, 2016

Your iso wasn't very convincing. Opinion - me.

Yes and your opinion really matters here, because if it were convincing to you, you'd just say "oh yes, Liz is right, I'm actually scum"

Villagers can have convincing arguments and still be wrong.

Lizabeth · June 15, 2016

Did Liz even mention that I was the first to strongly back lil's claim against Clov so Clov couldn't get away if he was a wolf?

Look at the iso. I pointed out exactly what you did with links to what you did.

You first said "oh right! vote clov"

Then you immediately backed off and unvoted sayign you weren't sure that lily was telling the truth.

Then you waffled back and forth coming up with reasons why lil might not be telling the truth.

Then you never actually managed to vote when it would have counted.

That's what happened. Show me where I'm wrong.

Sili Quirrels · June 15, 2016

That said, I am biased and I acknowledge my bias openly.

Sili Quirrels · June 15, 2016

Did Liz even mention that I was the first to strongly back lil's claim against Clov so Clov couldn't get away if he was a wolf?

Look at the iso. I pointed out exactly what you did with links to what you did.

You first said "oh right! vote clov"

Then you immediately backed off and unvoted sayign you weren't sure that lily was telling the truth.

Then you waffled back and forth coming up with reasons why lil might not be telling the truth.

Then you never actually managed to vote when it would have counted.

That's what happened. Show me where I'm wrong.

It was more than a vote.

Even after I unvoted there is true progression backing lily's claim while people came on and commented. How the helld id you miss that?

Lizabeth · June 15, 2016

Sili votes clov immediately after Lily says he’s not town, says he didn’t trust clov, then backtracks immediately and unvotes

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668149

TMI

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668150

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668151

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668160

Now claims he thought Clov was the cop (even though he was just saying that he didn’t trust him)

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668162

Wants lily to claim fully even though she already has, says some people won’t believe her, but he still hasn’t revoted

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668173

still avoiding a lynch on clov even though has said lily is likely telling the truth

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668235

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668236

trying to argue about town PR roles, although I agreed at the time

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668246

More TMI:

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668270

Throws out suggestion of lynching outside of lily or clov after pointing out that HAVE to lynch one today and the other tomorrow

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668330

Starts saying he’s reading her intent as townie, then questioning her competence

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668353

Expresses annoyance that he missed his vote opportunity

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668373

Says there’s no way that Lenlo is mafia when he was arguing with me last night that scum buses each other unnecessarily all the time so that didn’t clear Kat

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668374

Puts “pretend” vote on clov

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668375

Alanna and Sili not voting (I was at work)

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668382

Now claiming he wanted to hammer when Hallia was clear she planned to hammer

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668395

Goes back to wanting to lynch lenlo (depending on what happens next makes it “next to impossible” that they’re team mates)

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668402

Now claims that kat’s treatment of wish makes her town when he was arguing that I was scummy for making the same point last night

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668414

Saying the wolves have been fighting him all game, calls lenlo a wolf but then maybe not a wolf

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668429

Trying to establish distance from Wish

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668430

Now giving a reason for why lenlo should be left alive to lylo

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668466

why is he afraid of a TOWN vigilante living to F3?

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668468

I will just respond to a couple points. Reference to a vigilante refers to a scum vig at f3 which means town always loses.

I thought clov could be a cop before then, and I also had my doubts about him. And you can have speculation without being sure - that's what being a villager is. lol.

I gave a lot of reasons about lenlo. Lot of things that go against what I want to do because I'm trying my best to win and help town now that bfg is gone. Someone needs to have patience here and approach each problem from as many angles as possible. =/

You point out inconsistencies like it's a bad thing but they're not. Good luck trying to lynch me liz.

What the ****

(almost swore there...you really test my censor Sili....)

Wtf is a "scum vig"?

Scum have night kills. they don't need a vig.

But keep going. Go on. What is a scum vig, Sili?

Sili Quirrels · June 15, 2016

What a headache.

Lizabeth · June 15, 2016

What a headache.

Yes, I'm sure it must be painful to you to have your scumminess drawn out in excrutiating detail.

Back to catching up. Not making anymore promises about not commenting in the process.

Sili Quirrels · June 15, 2016

Sili votes clov immediately after Lily says he’s not town, says he didn’t trust clov, then backtracks immediately and unvotes

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668149

TMI

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668150

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668151

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668160

Now claims he thought Clov was the cop (even though he was just saying that he didn’t trust him)

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668162

Wants lily to claim fully even though she already has, says some people won’t believe her, but he still hasn’t revoted

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668173

still avoiding a lynch on clov even though has said lily is likely telling the truth

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668235

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668236

trying to argue about town PR roles, although I agreed at the time

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668246

More TMI:

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668270

Throws out suggestion of lynching outside of lily or clov after pointing out that HAVE to lynch one today and the other tomorrow

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668330

Starts saying he’s reading her intent as townie, then questioning her competence

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668353

Expresses annoyance that he missed his vote opportunity

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668373

Says there’s no way that Lenlo is mafia when he was arguing with me last night that scum buses each other unnecessarily all the time so that didn’t clear Kat

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668374

Puts “pretend” vote on clov

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668375

Alanna and Sili not voting (I was at work)

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668382

Now claiming he wanted to hammer when Hallia was clear she planned to hammer

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668395

Goes back to wanting to lynch lenlo (depending on what happens next makes it “next to impossible” that they’re team mates)

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668402

Now claims that kat’s treatment of wish makes her town when he was arguing that I was scummy for making the same point last night

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668414

Saying the wolves have been fighting him all game, calls lenlo a wolf but then maybe not a wolf

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668429

Trying to establish distance from Wish

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668430

Now giving a reason for why lenlo should be left alive to lylo

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668466

why is he afraid of a TOWN vigilante living to F3?

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/98177-basic-i-3-the-90s-mafia-music-edition-night-4/?p=3668468

I will just respond to a couple points. Reference to a vigilante refers to a scum vig at f3 which means town always loses.

I thought clov could be a cop before then, and I also had my doubts about him. And you can have speculation without being sure - that's what being a villager is. lol.

I gave a lot of reasons about lenlo. Lot of things that go against what I want to do because I'm trying my best to win and help town now that bfg is gone. Someone needs to have patience here and approach each problem from as many angles as possible. =/

You point out inconsistencies like it's a bad thing but they're not. Good luck trying to lynch me liz.

What the ****

(almost swore there...you really test my censor Sili....)

Wtf is a "scum vig"?

Scum have night kills. they don't need a vig.

But keep going. Go on. What is a scum vig, Sili?

lol are you for real?

is this an attempt at a derp clear or something? because that's denied straight off lol.

Lizabeth · June 15, 2016

So far your so called case looks more like fishing for reasons to fos me rather than critically thinking about my alignment. I'll continue reading just in case though.

You're hilarious. seriously.

Your argument with me the other night was you fishing for reasons. Basically no matter what I responded you were going to try to make me look scummy for it. What I did was basically outline clearly what you did and when you did it for other people to see and draw conclusions about it.

Sili Quirrels · June 15, 2016

What a headache.

Yes, I'm sure it must be painful to you to have your scumminess drawn out in excrutiating detail.

Back to catching up. Not making anymore promises about not commenting in the process.

Hey, if all I had to say was an appology for being scummy that would almost be better, but unfortunately your arguments are dishonest. Really quite silly. I thought I told you I don't like thunderdomes?

Lizabeth · June 15, 2016

What a headache.

Yes, I'm sure it must be painful to you to have your scumminess drawn out in excrutiating detail.

Back to catching up. Not making anymore promises about not commenting in the process.

Hey, if all I had to say was an appology for being scummy that would almost be better, but unfortunately your arguments are dishonest. Really quite silly. I thought I told you I don't like thunderdomes?

So this is more trying to dismiss what I say by generically using derogatory statements instead of actually trying to show me where I'm wrong.

Show me where I'm wrong sili. I brought you clear facts. Show me where I'm being dishonest.

Still catching up.

Lizabeth · June 15, 2016

Question: Have you ever seen a scum put in almost a 1000 posts?

Maybe Tom did, once, but I wasn't there for it. I've played like 200+ games and besides that it's never happened.

Suggesting that I am scum is silly imo.

You just bragged this game about posting 700 posts as SK. SK is scum.

Sili Quirrels · June 15, 2016

So far your so called case looks more like fishing for reasons to fos me rather than critically thinking about my alignment. I'll continue reading just in case though.

You're hilarious. seriously.

Your argument with me the other night was you fishing for reasons. Basically no matter what I responded you were going to try to make me look scummy for it. What I did was basically outline clearly what you did and when you did it for other people to see and draw conclusions about it.

No.. what you did was you cherry-picked.

I spotted two interesting things and questioned you about it trying to make up my mind. The argument was unnecessary.

Lizabeth · June 15, 2016

I was more referring to Besie and myself

How can you speak for Besie?

Sili Quirrels · June 15, 2016

So this is more trying to dismiss what I say by generically using derogatory statements instead of actually trying to show me where I'm wrong.

Show me where I'm wrong sili. I brought you clear facts. Show me where I'm being dishonest.

Still catching up.

I have showed you where you are wrong. You should try defending your arguments and then maybe if I believe they have merit I won't call them bad.

Sili Quirrels · June 15, 2016

I was more referring to Besie and myself

How can you speak for Besie?

are you not paying attention to the posts you quoted?

wolfy.

Sili Quirrels · June 15, 2016

Question: Have you ever seen a scum put in almost a 1000 posts?

Maybe Tom did, once, but I wasn't there for it. I've played like 200+ games and besides that it's never happened.

Suggesting that I am scum is silly imo.

You just bragged this game about posting 700 posts as SK. SK is scum.

Typically not what people mean by scum. I meant mafia of course. And you think there's a third party? :huh:

Hell most villagers don't post 1000 times in one game, but it at least happens. lol.

Sili Quirrels · June 15, 2016

Hey, you haven't voted yet?

Sili Quirrels · June 15, 2016

If I didn't miss something surely you forgot, which'd be interesting.

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