[Advanced] Arthurian Mafia

[Sili Quirrels]

and, if you look for post 2003, you'd actually see my claim. Which, nobody here has yet, i think

You claimed vanilla but so what??

[Thane Vakarian]

thanks for giving me some reaction at least. I have no PR to claim, no special abilities, just a simple townie. I'd nearly say 'as usual'. 

[Yates]

Oh yeah - Cass and Lili died together. MrsClov shot Lily [which took out Cass as well] N1. Lily and Darthe were the lead wagons Day 1. MrsClov was voting for Lily. MrsClov claimed the shot pretty soon into Day 2.

[Sili Quirrels]

thanks for giving me some reaction at least. I have no PR to claim, no special abilities, just a simple townie. I'd nearly say 'as usual'. 

Cool.

[Thane Vakarian]

i do have the feeling that, if i post something, people skim it and don't pay attention to what i actually type.

 

and it's annoying me. 

[Sili Quirrels]

Town Prs.

 

Arthur

Merlin

Lancelot

2 Lovers

Nimue

Vigilante

 

Yep, I'm pretty sure there are 3 scum.

[Sili Quirrels]

i do have the feeling that, if i post something, people skim it and don't pay attention to what i actually type.

 

and it's annoying me. 

D=

[Yates]

Town Prs.

 

Arthur

Merlin

Lancelot

2 Lovers

Nimue

Vigilante

 

Yep, I'm pretty sure there are 3 scum.

Where are you getting Arthur and Lancelot from?

 

Also, Vig is technically negative utility. At least, it's on the negative side of null. Lovers are straight up negative utility. They didn't know of each other. So mislynch/vig shot/nk on one leads to the death of the other. As it worked out, vig was negative utility and took out both lovers.

[Sili Quirrels]

Clov is Arthur.

 

Leelou is Lancelot.

 

Vigilante is positive utility imo. It can be negative utility sometimes, but mostly it's a town-made kill and therefore +ev.

[Yates]

I should also add that Nimue was an enabler. She could also just as easily have given scum two kills or the Evil Priest Clov mentioned two opportunities to turn villagers vanilla instead of one. And we don't know what other abilities scum have.

[Yates]

Sorry - Nimue was a GIFTER not an enabler.

[Sili Quirrels]

I should also add that Nimue was an enabler. She could also just as easily have given scum two kills or the Evil Priest Clov mentioned two opportunities to turn villagers vanilla instead of one. And we don't know what other abilities scum have.

It seems reasonable to think instead of some crazy buffed 2 scum, there are three scum who are well ballanced, but maybe you just know more about this sort of stuff than me.

[Yates]

Vigilante is positive utility imo.

Your opinion aside, it counts as Town-1 in the balance calculator.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

Vigilante is positive utility imo.

Your opinion aside, it counts as Town-1 in the balance calculator.

 

It depends a lot on who has it.

[Yates]

It seems reasonable to think instead of some crazy buffed 2 scum, there are three scum who are well ballanced, but maybe you just know more about this sort of stuff than me.

Am I arguing this point with you? No. Why are we talking about balance right now? We are talking about balance so BFG can determine the legitimacy of certain claims - like yours, for example.

[Sili Quirrels]

There's alsoo the fact we ostensibly have...

 

6 or 7 confirmable villager power roles.

 

The vigilante get's to clear themselvse by claiming a shot.

Merlin can protect someone.

Arthur nees only to claim and have nimue gift him.

Lovers will find each other.

Beloved must die before f3.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

It seems reasonable to think instead of some crazy buffed 2 scum, there are three scum who are well ballanced, but maybe you just know more about this sort of stuff than me.

Am I arguing this point with you? No. Why are we talking about balance right now? We are talking about balance so BFG can determine the legitimacy of certain claims - like yours, for example.

 

uhuh?

 

uhm. for ballance purposes a protector seems kind of essential, so that seems reasonable too, objectively.

[Yates]

Lovers are Town-3 in the balance calculator.

[Sili Quirrels]

Lovers are Town-3 in the balance calculator.

where is the balance calculator?

 

and i think you also need to factor in the fact a majority of town are confirmable power roles.

[Sili Quirrels]

Like I can't stress enough, the number of people who are possible cleareds in this game is substantial.

[Sili Quirrels]

I consider cleareds really important. They reduce the poe significantly. It's something like 7 Cleareds. 4 not-town. 3 vanillas.

 

That's what we have to work with.

[Yates]

where is the balance calculator?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zb7oxzsz177h4f7/Mafia_Balance_Tester.jar

[Sili Quirrels]

miscounted: 6 cleareds.

[MrsClov]

So, where I come from sometimes roles have multiple win-cons that can be met. For example Player A can meet win-condition 1 or 2... 

 

Is that a thing here?

 

If so, Sili is it part of your win-con to have to get Dice out of the game because of his character? Because if so your actions towards him now make sense. 

[Sili Quirrels]

I can't find lovers.

 

And doc has a self protect in this game.

 

And clov hasn't claimed a role yet.