[Advanced] Avengers - Age of Ultron (GAME OVER!)

[Tommyrod]

Darthe is scum, Darthe is scum, I peeked him scum, I'm a dawn cop, Darthe is scum, we need to lynch Darthe.

[WWWwombat]

No TG. Let's say there's a huge spat occurring in the thread. That was just happening.

 

The more intensity behind it the more likely it's town/town or town/scum. Scum/scum don't go ham on each other. So is Tsuki town or scum? I'm reading him as town because he was pretty cocky to tell me my own role is a scum role if he's scum and knows I'm not. So I know he likes to catch people in gotchas. The red PM thing, as Lenlo wrote It, appeared to be a gotcha. He got excited. I understand that. Then he's all flabbergasted about how people see him as scummy for it after that when he was just excited to catch a scum in a lie. That's how I see it. So he reads town to me. So who are the people popping in to vote him? So far the largest wagons have been me (town) and Tsuki (town) and both just kind of exploded in short time. Is it possible town is just eviscerating itself? Sure! Tress could be town, you could be, Len could be, Vos could be. But is it likely there's scum blending in on these wagons? Yes. Darthe on mine, maybe Vos on Tsuki's? The way Vos conveniently had a case for Tsuki right as the wagon was picking up steam struck me. But tress popping in to question Tsuki while heat was on him bothered me too.

 

This could all be town violence, or Tsuki could be scum and he's getting owned and I'm an idiot, but I note the flow and who appears to be talking advantage of it without getting themselves dirty.

 

This is kind of a lot of words to say that you think Tsuki is town and the people pushing him and you could be scum.

[WWWwombat]

Just saw Tommy's claim.  Gonna continue with catchup then reassess afterwards.

[Tommyrod]

Yeah, is that a lot of scummy words or a lot of townie words?

[WWWwombat]

Waiting on the other PM, but I don't see a smoking gun.  Red listed her top town reads.  She didn't list them in rank order.

 

Agreed.

 

 

 

If two people claim to have the same info/role/whatever, and the info is (possibly) contradictory, it is a Counter-Claim in my book until the Contradiction is resolved. 

 

 

Given what was actually in the PMs and Tsuki's reaction, 100% that Tsuki is not scum/scum with either Tommy or Lenlo.

 

 

Meh.

[nervositee]

http://getlazarus.com/

 

Stop losing posts...

 

"[...]your cat wanders across the keyboard"

 

Finally someone who knows what my life is like.

 

 

 

I said why I found your catchup post scummy. It's surficial. You make 3 conclusions then ignore them all to vote because of popcorn and tie Vos to voting him for the same reason. Bad. scummy agenda pushing post.

 

Do you think you could keep up this level of arguing in real time as scum? Serious question.

 

Kind of mixed feelings on this.  It's something I might have thought of had I known Vos' meta that well.  In this case, I think the negative of possibly helping Vos tunnel if town or giving him an excuse to tunnel would outweigh the positives from any meta read though.

 

 

 

 

BS. I have CONSTANTLY tried to get attention back to the PMs in question. Misrep much?

 

 

Quote the posts you have done so SINCE the post where I voted you.

 

I said why I found your catchup post scummy. It's surficial. You make 3 conclusions then ignore them all to vote because of popcorn and tie Vos to voting him for the same reason. Bad. scummy agenda pushing post.

 

Do you think you could keep up this level of arguing in real time as scum? Serious question.

 

Yes it is superficial, I just speed read 50 pages and summarized my notes in a few salient points.  And I mentioned Vos because Vos reaction should be very telling about Vos' alignment.

 

As for the level of argument, your meta on me is wrong which makes your question baseless.

 

 

Could it be telling though?  If Vos agrees with you and tunnels on Tsuki for today, what does that tell you?

 

 

 

I don't see why things need to be overly complex here.  Tommy fake claimed immediately, is playing to troll and has indicated that he knows things that most likely shouldn't be known by a townie.  Strikes me as a clean D1 lynch at the very least.  

 

I wanna agree here. Really really really. But at this point, I think all that will lead to is a bitch fight after EndGame. #howtoplayMafia

 

 

Logical fallacy.  Agree or don't.  Postgame doesn't play into it.

 

 

Should maybe have emphasized ALL THAT WILL LEAD TO. Ie. I don't think it'll lead anywhere (except said bitch fight). 

 

Beside that, I'm not ruling out TG leading me to Tsuki. Been aware of it since he called me out. Will revisit. 

 

 

 

I have to sleep early since I have classes early tomorrow. So, Tommy I'll get back to you on my reads on both of them. As well as what has happened and will happen.

 

I'll be reading along but I am tired since it's late here. I may or may not post tonight

Did you comment on Tsuki? So many Lenlo avatars.

 

 

Shouldn't be a problem according to Xthrax because they have names above them.

 

 

Holy shit this will make the game so much easier!

 

Darthe is scum, Darthe is scum, I peeked him scum, I'm a dawn cop, Darthe is scum, we need to lynch Darthe.

 

 

You're just trolling again, aren't you?

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

 

and now that its been proven theres no contradiction?  are you still gogin to try and use me to deflect attrition off of you?

 

 

 

First off, was never "using" YOU, just "using" the PMs, since everyone suddenly wanted to ignore them based on my "bwahhahaha" comment.

You used attrition wrong...

noun

1.

a reduction or decrease in numbers, size, or strength:

Our club has had a high rate of attrition because so many members have moved away.

2.

a wearing down or weakening of resistance, especially as a result of continuous pressure or harassment:

The enemy surrounded the town and conducted a war of attrition.

3.

a gradual reduction in work force without firing of personnel, as when workers resign or retire and are not replaced.

4.

the act of rubbing against something; friction.

5.

a wearing down or away by friction; abrasion.

6.

Theology. imperfect contrition.

trust me, I am not weakened or wore down.

 

 

 

and then theres posts like this that come off as overly defensive and give more of a squirming feeling rather than flustered town feeling.

 

 

plus, the addition of the english lesson at me is not only laughable and a waste of time on his part, but also seems like an attempt at baiting me into arguing with him over something that doesn't pertain at all to scum hunting.

 

 

WTF?  I just read this as an autocorrect from "attention" to "attrition."  Red, did you mean to say attrition?  Did you mean to say attention and just didnt' really read Tsuki's post?

 

 

Who cares?  If people are going to start correcting Red's grammar/spelling/diction, this game is going to go down in flames.

[Arsis]

Darthe is scum, Darthe is scum, I peeked him scum, I'm a dawn cop, Darthe is scum, we need to lynch Darthe.

And you waited this long... Because? And also, it was a 1x role?

[WWWwombat]

There is some real odd pushing going on itt. Maybe im missing something here but a red/tommy aliance should never ever happen.

 

What's your point here?

 

 

 

 

There is some real odd pushing going on itt. Maybe im missing something here but a red/tommy aliance should never ever happen.

less commentary and more game play pls

 

kthnxbye

 

I always love when people try junk like this.  That comment was gameplay and your comment here is nothing short of a blatant attempt to have it dismissed.  Typically meaning you want it ignored.  

 

Notable for you all, would a town red ever say something so dismissive or would she have turned on me for mentioning her in a remotely negative light?  I think you know the answer.

 

 

You don't seem to be trying, and therefore deserve to be dismissed until you do.

[Tommyrod]

 

Darthe is scum, Darthe is scum, I peeked him scum, I'm a dawn cop, Darthe is scum, we need to lynch Darthe.

And you waited this long... Because? And also, it was a 1x role?

 

 

Wolfy

[WWWwombat]

After catchup, TG comes out looking scummy, darthe doesn't look anything like usual darthe - town or scum, there's something fishy about NB/Tina statements, Tsuki looks like frustrated townie to me, Red looks like townie Red, X feels town to me, Len seems to be sitting in the background more than usual, which pings me. Tommy seems like town atm.

 

I like most of these reads.  Town lean on you.

[nervositee]

Regarding my unvote on Tsuki: It's pretty much gut/tone read. When he first got some heat it seemed like he was flailing. Now it seems like he is just super-frustrated townie. So I'll let it slide for now. 

 

Gonna revisit TG and Red. 

 

I still has a slight town lean on TG - but seing how everything evolved I'm interested in how he peaked my interest in Tsuki, yet stayed pretty clear of my case or subsequent posting. 

 

Red for early game hounding of X. Didn't matter much when she was on about the time stamps, but when that was resolved she seemed determined not to lose face over catching scum. Still does. And not sold on the PMs either. Would not hold those games against scum-Red to play. Seems to be working too. 

 

Arsis is sticking out this game like a sore thumb. Haven't played with him before so I'm not sure how he is. He hasn't scum slipped or anything but his tone is just way off. Gonna be a wild card this game me thinks. 

 

 

 

 

Darthe is scum, Darthe is scum, I peeked him scum, I'm a dawn cop, Darthe is scum, we need to lynch Darthe.

And you waited this long... Because? And also, it was a 1x role?

 

 

Wolfy

 

 

I agree. But with the amount of trolling and misinformation you've spread - you can't hold it against people to not take what you say at face value?

[Arsis]

 

 

 

Darthe is scum, Darthe is scum, I peeked him scum, I'm a dawn cop, Darthe is scum, we need to lynch Darthe.

And you waited this long... Because? And also, it was a 1x role?

Wolfy

Me? Or you making your 3rd or 4th claim? I'm having trouble keeping up.

 

You alone had a dawn action? So, will there be more dawns or is your power 1x? That's a legitimate question.

[WWWwombat]

You came out of nowhere with a post about "distractions"... I guess, given the nature of DM Mafia (Spam being posted up to, and potentially after, the final lynch) that this seems less than genuine.

 

Wasn't always this way, FYI.  We spammed a bit but knew when to knuckle down and how to keep reading a thread from being a chore.  This has been a change for the worse imo.

 

 

reasons im on tommy

 

he whined about playing.

he then claimed Galactus a major villian, multiple times.

then he goes  oh no im a twin not galactus!!  the twins are villians at this point in canon.

he is trolling and i am in the ABBA game and as such am sick of trolling.

 

 

he didnt want to play then seems to have played to get lynched so i say we give him what he wanted.

 

 

somebody made a comment of me going for low hanging fruit....i have read tommy as scum a number of times and tried to get him lynched and he always turned out scum yet I dont think i EVER succeeded so no im not seeing ure low hanging fruit thing

 

Feels like you're not trying but the tone reads legit here =S

[Tommyrod]

 

 

 

Darthe is scum, Darthe is scum, I peeked him scum, I'm a dawn cop, Darthe is scum, we need to lynch Darthe.

And you waited this long... Because? And also, it was a 1x role?

Wolfy

Me? Or you making your 3rd or 4th claim? I'm having trouble keeping up.

 

You alone had a dawn action? So, will there be more dawns or is your power 1x? That's a legitimate question.

 

 

I found your immediate pounce upon the specifics of my claim wolfy. It's not a question I'm interested in answering at this time.

[WWWwombat]

 

You came out of nowhere with a post about "distractions"... I guess, given the nature of DM Mafia (Spam being posted up to, and potentially after, the final lynch) that this seems less than genuine.

Did you read the rest of my post? It wasn't only that one line.

 

The new way of playing on DM does contain way more spam than I'm used to. I'm all for having fun, but I might be a little sensitive to it after having to wade through a bajillion pages when I played catch up in Des's ABBA game. When it came up in game a second time, I felt that the comment was warranted.

 

 

I agree with you 100% on the volume thing.  I used to actually reread games.  These days I skim back through -_-

[WWWwombat]

 

reasons im on tommy

 

he whined about playing.

he then claimed Galactus a major villian, multiple times.

then he goes  oh no im a twin not galactus!!  the twins are villians at this point in canon.

he is trolling and i am in the ABBA game and as such am sick of trolling.

 

 

he didnt want to play then seems to have played to get lynched so i say we give him what he wanted.

 

 

somebody made a comment of me going for low hanging fruit....i have read tommy as scum a number of times and tried to get him lynched and he always turned out scum yet I dont think i EVER succeeded so no im not seeing ure low hanging fruit thing

 

This is bullshit. I never wanted to collect votes or get lynched, I was just dicking around for reactions. If you're gonna vote me, at least get some real reasons or I'll be vigging you tonight.

 

 

FWIW, I thought it was funny until Mynd started alluding to it in scenes.

[Arsis]

 

 

 

 

 

Darthe is scum, Darthe is scum, I peeked him scum, I'm a dawn cop, Darthe is scum, we need to lynch Darthe.

And you waited this long... Because? And also, it was a 1x role?

Wolfy

Me? Or you making your 3rd or 4th claim? I'm having trouble keeping up.

 

You alone had a dawn action? So, will there be more dawns or is your power 1x? That's a legitimate question.

I found your immediate pounce upon the specifics of my claim wolfy. It's not a question I'm interested in answering at this time.

I was trying to call bullshit in the most polite was possible to fit in over here. How many people did you threaten to vig tonight and now you're dawn phase cop? After claiming galactus? I hope you don't think your power will save you from being lynched. I have the final say in that and when I drop the hammer it stays dropped.

[Tommyrod]

I was trying to call bullshit in the most polite was possible to fit in over here. How many people did you threaten to vig tonight and now you're dawn phase cop? After claiming galactus? I hope you don't think your power will save you from being lynched. I have the final say in that and when I drop the hammer it stays dropped.

Yeah, claiming a lot of roles haphazardly is a classic scum tactic.

[WWWwombat]

I'm going tto use the Tommy defense.

 

I'm significantly better than this as scum so clearly I am being earnest.  If you disagree then you're entitled to that but me thinking differently from you has nothing to do with my alignment.

 

Probably about as useful as the Chewbacca defense.

[WWWwombat]

And yeah atm I think maybe it is red playing Tommy.  He looks odd to me ITT but that could bbe comperable to his scum game only which would make him town?  IDK, I can't really read him for crap though I heavily dislike his plays during the latter part of the dawn.

 

Info.  Cool.

[WWWwombat]

 

Guardians of thw galaxy is my favorite movie so far this year. I love it. Being serious about what?

 

Still need to see it.

 

The game.  What else?

[Arsis]

 

I was trying to call bullshit in the most polite was possible to fit in over here. How many people did you threaten to vig tonight and now you're dawn phase cop? After claiming galactus? I hope you don't think your power will save you from being lynched. I have the final say in that and when I drop the hammer it stays dropped.

Yeah, claiming a lot of roles haphazardly is a classic scum tactic.

I don't really care about classic anything to me if the tropes are known it's easy to use against someone. You can do it to clear yourself and use the exact defense you're using now and it might work.

 

 

Give me something besides "scum wouldn't do that"

[WWWwombat]

Darthe still trying to look like he's playin while spamming it up    srsly tho bro, get in the game.

 

 

 

the infamous list

 

Cool Kids table

 

 

 

Mynd

 

 

 

 

anways

 

lock!town goats[/b]

 

 

 

nadda

 

 

 

approaching lock!town

 

 

 

tommy - meta 80%

 

len - interaction via PR from D0  82%

 

despo - meta & WIM  70%

 

womby - gut feel and tone of posts  51%

 

 

 

 

null to town

 

 

 

tress - reactions feel legit and scum hunting feels pure.

 

Em - same as tress

 

 

 

 

team nullsville

 

 

 

Hoof - needs to post more

 

Hally - has she even checked in

 

DT - has like 1 post and it was fluff

 

Dice - has had a few posts, need to go back and iso him to get a good feel either way

 

Rand - same as Dice

 

AJ - the push at Tuski D0 felt odd to me.  he started spamming then came back to it.  he's since explained it and i'm good with it

 

Tina - appearing to be active in the game and has made some good points, but her latest list looks exactly how Em pointed out

 

not bob - same as dice

 

 

 

null to scum kids

 

 

 

Nol - the off putting attitude and "how to play" discussion is null.  his vote for D1, messing up the code, then voting Verb, then not unvoting before using the code to vote Arsis again pings.  light ping (plus its not Wed yet *shrugs*)

 

Arsis - i dislike his "100% sure you're not town" comment to nol from D0 medium pingage

 

Vos - his reaction to AJ's "whats scummy about tsuki's post" on D0.  it was extremely opportunistic and pings imo  medium pingage

 

TG - not something i can put my finger on directly, its just his entire game feels too ....  something just doesn't feel right about his play so far this game in the gut light ping

 

Tsuki - his game during D0 i'm writing off because we know he had a PR.  D1 however is fair game.  his reaction to the PM stuff is null, scum or town could react that way.  his reaction to the pressure he got is null as well.  what pings is the fact he kept pressing on the PM info, it came off as deflection rather than as a defense.  then his little english lesson came off as an attempt at goading me into an argument.  light ping

 

 

 

 

 

defcon level 4 scum!zone

 

 

 

krak -  is the reverse of Darthe, but equally off his meta.  this post made my hair stand on end 65%

 

Darthe -  the mass claim suggestion from D0 pinged then, and it still pings now.  70%

 

Dawn - her voting reason on tommy is scummy and seems tmi-y as pointed out earlier http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/90474-advanced-avengers-age-of-ultron-day-1/page-38?do=findComment&comment=3306169   and the fact that she is tunneling on Tommy and not really commenting about anything else, even my vote on her  85%

 

Xthrax -  my ISO is here  83%

 

 

 

 

lock!scum

 

 

 

nadda for now

 

 

 

I don't understand why you have Len as town.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

I was trying to call bullshit in the most polite was possible to fit in over here. How many people did you threaten to vig tonight and now you're dawn phase cop? After claiming galactus? I hope you don't think your power will save you from being lynched. I have the final say in that and when I drop the hammer it stays dropped.

Yeah, claiming a lot of roles haphazardly is a classic scum tactic.

I don't really care about classic anything to me if the tropes are known it's easy to use against someone. You can do it to clear yourself and use the exact defense you're using now and it might work.

 

 

Give me something besides "scum wouldn't do that"

 

 

There's nothing else to add. You believe me or you don't. You think I'm scum or you don't.