[Basic] Christmas Mentors & Maffia

[Leelou]

She's making fun of me and trying to save face after backing down from my OP ANALYSIS CHALLENGE!!

 

Yes, I am making fun of you. And you OP analysis challenge was crap since that is not how I scum hunt. And warning, I do bite. 

[peacesells]

 

 

 

##vote elf

So someone said you start every game with "yo" which means you're aware of your own meta which means you're probably not a very adept player (no offense intended) since you have a gimmick to cover yourself. Why are you me-too-ing Cloud's vote without any prior commentary or justification? If anyone has the right to be second in line here, it's me. Pls explain

 

Probably because I'm not a very adept player.  Really, why are you asking questions you've already answered for yourself?

Uh... that's the cue for you to explain your vote. Go on. We won't bite!

 

 

Why is it necessary to regurgitate Cloud's reasons? 

[_CLOUD]

Leelou is town.

[peacesells]

Leelou is town.

 

oh gawd.

[Tommyrod]

Why is it necessary to regurgitate Cloud's reasons?

 

Am I supposed to read your mind as to why you randomly voted without reasoning?

 

All: is this normal behavior from peacesells?

[_CLOUD]

Yup.

[Leelou]

Leelou is town.

 

The horror! There is ANOTHER one! 

 

 

And yes, normal behavior. 

[csarmi]

Remember it is allowed to edit posts.

[Tommyrod]

Remember it is allowed to edit posts.

Kthx

[Leelou]

Remember it is allowed to edit posts.

 

YAY! 

 

 

*edit - because I can. 

[Tommyrod]

Yup.

Kthx

 

 

 

Leelou is town.

 

 

The horror! There is ANOTHER one! 

 

And yes, normal behavior.

Kthx

 

What are Leelou's town tells?

[elffern]

 

I don't actually find him especially scummy right now, and I want to see what he says. And I am aware there are other paths my line of reasoning could take, but it seems best to go down the worst possible case first.

In one of your first posts you mentioned that Tom's eagerness is the only thing that stood out to you, and now you call him out for trying to get a lynch going by using very thin reasoning and at the same time trying to set up an escape if his attempt would fail. I again disagree with your explanation regarding his actions so far, but it's certainly interesting that you are now trying to backpaddle away from your initial read on him by saying that you want to wait for him to talk more. You haven't stated your suspicion on anyone else and you even admit that it's best to go with the worst possible case first, but you still aren't willing to vote for him at this stage of the game.

 

##vote Elf

 

now its getting fun

 

I'm backpaddling from nothing, like I said in the initial post, its the only thing that has stood out to me so far. I assume you know what a ping is? Well that pinged, I didn't feel it was enough to vote on, but it was/is enough to poke with a stick, and also get day one going further than merry Xmas posts. My 'backpeddal' was just an explanation that I had taken into account other evaluations of the situation, and hadn't dismissed them (another reason for not voting yet)

 

Of course I haven't stated suspicion on anything else as I hadn't seen anything else suspicious.

 

I don't see why I should vote of the basis of essentially one post, which was the very thing that whole first post was about? Wouldn't that be hypocritical of me? We currently have no deadline, so why would I want to rush?

 

So essentially your complaint is that I'm too self consistent?

 

 

Also what tommyrod said peace, explanation?

[Tommyrod]

If you guys had a gun to your head and had to choose would you say this is more town peace or scum peace

 

The snarkiness is a bit much

[peacesells]

If you guys had a gun to your head and had to choose would you say this is more town peace or scum peace

 

The snarkiness is a bit much

Your false bravado is overly much.  It's a crutch for player with weak ego's. 

 

How's your hold'em game?  You play online?

[Tommyrod]

Personal attacks after I put doubt on you isn't very Christmaslike :(

 

It's not very town like either

 

##Vote Peaceinthemiddleeast

 

I wouldn't be surprised if we've hit scum already

 

-Self conscious (evidenced by OP gimmick)

-Sheep voting with no discussion, expecting the wagon to take off

-Overly defensive and gets into personal attacks on Day 1 (lol)

 

Definitely the most suspicious play so far

 

Follow me to the promised land

[_CLOUD]

@Elf: You don't feel your suspicions of Tom are enough to vote for him, but you don't have any other scum reads. You want to get Day 1 started but you again aren't willing to vote. You are taking other possible explanations into account, but you claimed that it's better to go with the first case scenario first, and yet again you didn't vote for him. Scum prefer to wait until the deadline approaches and do as little as possible until then because it won't tie them to certain reads. Consistency doesn't have to be a good thing either because it shows that you are self-conscious of your own play which scum are more often than town.

[_CLOUD]

Personal attacks after I put doubt on you isn't very Christmaslike :(

 

It's not very town like either

 

##Vote Peaceinthemiddleeast

 

I wouldn't be surprised if we've hit scum already

 

-Self conscious (evidenced by OP gimmick)

-Sheep voting with no discussion, expecting the wagon to take off

-Overly defensive and gets into personal attacks on Day 1 (lol)

 

Definitely the most suspicious play so far

 

Follow me to the promised land

 

I only agree with you about his touchy attitude in this game, but the rest is null. Do something useful and follow me on Elf instead.

[elffern]

Sorry, formatting issues on phone

 

 

 

 

To gage scummymess from an opening post and asking others to do so just seems like your trying to get a lynch going on very thin grounds, while having an excuse if they come up innocent, also you haven't given the same analysis you asked for until now, kinda like so later if anyone had said something that started a lynch train, you can point to them and say it was their idea.And why golden bfg?

 

The good: being cautious, making theories, asking questions (like to BFG).

 

The bad: twisting what I said to publicly fit it to an image of being scummy.

 

I have a brute force approach to mafia games: I smash and smash and force people to interact so that when mafia eventually flips we get a stronger idea of who to jump to next. If town is quiet and keeps to themselves it becomes very difficult to win.

 

I notice that your opening post and this post are vastly different in tone. I don't know how you went from cute weeaboo to attacking me after I didn't even call you scummy -- consider my curiosity on you piqued. I challenge you to analyze the OPs of the players in this game yourself since you seem to have a problem with my approach.

 

 

I disagree with every point in your post, Elf.

 

Why aren't you voting for Tom if you find him so scummy?

Thanks Cloud but I don't need protection :P

 

I wasn't twisting, just following a possible line of thought and knowledge of possible strategies I might use if I were mafia. I kinda glad cloud disagrees, as it means I still some nice devious thought processes left

 

And the tone, that was night one, this day one, it scumhunting time

[elffern]

Oh and yeah, I don't think analysing first posts on day one is helpful except to give scum reads on easy lynchs

[Tommyrod]

 

Personal attacks after I put doubt on you isn't very Christmaslike :(

It's not very town like either

##Vote Peaceinthemiddleeast

I wouldn't be surprised if we've hit scum already

-Self conscious (evidenced by OP gimmick)

-Sheep voting with no discussion, expecting the wagon to take off

-Overly defensive and gets into personal attacks on Day 1 (lol)

Definitely the most suspicious play so far

Follow me to the promised land

 

 

I only agree with you about his touchy attitude in this game, but the rest is null. Do something useful and follow me on Elf instead.

I wouldn't say it's null. Maybe the OP thing but I'll even add another point: he wanted to bring the conversation off topic to diffuse my momentum on him (asking about my hold'em game? Dafuq?)

[_CLOUD]

I wasn't twisting, just following a possible line of thought and knowledge of possible strategies I might use if I were mafia. I kinda glad cloud disagrees, as it means I still some nice devious thought processes left

 

And the tone, that was night one, this day one, it scumhunting time

You seem a little unsure about yourself. Also, isn't it twisting when you if you read his actions by looking at what YOU might do in his place if you were mafia instead of just taking it at face value?

 

Oh and yeah, I don't think analysing first posts on day one is helpful except to give scum reads on easy lynchs

 

There aren't any easy lynches in this game.

[_CLOUD]

Tom, what do you think about Elf's defense?

 

 

I have to go now.

[Leelou]

I dunno Cloud, Hoof is a perfect example of Day 1 lynches. 

[Tommyrod]

Tom, what do you think about Elf's defense?

 

 

I have to go now.

Hasn't pinged me yet but I'll re-read when I'm at a computer and not on my phone at work.

 

(Vote for peace)

[_CLOUD]

I dunno Cloud, Hoof is a perfect example of Day 1 lynches. 

 

Way to go with giving Elf a way out >.>