[TV] BSG Season 3.5 Discussion

[JenniferL]

Does anyone else have trouble believing that Cally is the same woman who BIT THE EAR OFF A RAPIST in season one?

 

And I see Helo is continuing with the moralizing this week. Good show, dude. Good show.

[Guest Segurant]

Bill needs to tap that! YEAH!

[JenniferL]

And telling someone to jump through OUTER SPACE rates pretty high on the " Bill Adama pyschotic acts of badassery" scale.

[Guest Emperor]

Overall a good episode. I liked the character development of Bill and seeing some of his past.

[Guest Segurant]

Yeah nice to look into the past of the Adamas.

[Guest Emperor]

Last night.

 

I like how they have Brits even lightyears away *g*.

 

I found myself liking the clepto lawyer more and more as the episode ran on.

[Guest Yveva]

I liked the klepto lawyer, but I felt like he was a bit gimmicky. An excuse to get Apollo from point A to point B. I feel like it could have been condensed a little, just get the trial started already! For some reason the grief for starbuck also felt a bit fakey. 'cept for her hubby, him I believed. I dunno, this episode just felt a little weak.

[Guest Segurant]

The Brit Lawyer as you put it, is the guy who played Badger on Firefly.

[JenniferL]

This episode was also written by Micheal Angelli. You may know him from "The Woman King".

 

Fan consensus seems to be that he's the weakest BSG writer and that he hates women.

[Guest Emperor]

I knew I recognized him! Whenever they introduce a new semi famous person, my first thought it "Cylon!"

[Guest Yveva]

yeah, I was thinking "cylon hiding behind dark glasses so that we don't notice his clever disguise"

[Werthead]

This episode was pretty good. Not spectacular, but put the pieces in place for the final episode. Lampkin had some fantastic lines.

 

Sadly, several seperate sources have come forward and confirmed that the spoilers I posted earlier are now all but certainly true. They did spoilerise at least two other BIG plot revelations but I won't discuss those. Seems a bit pointless with just a week and a half to go before the end of the season.

[Guest Emperor]

Ok, the music and the previews makes me think that we are going to learn that the president Aide, Tye and Anders are 3 of the 5 Cylons. Personally I much more enjoyed Tye as a drunkard flawed human... but it will be great to see how this ties into being a Cylon.

 

Innocent or guilty for Baltar? I am still thinking Baltar goes free.

 

What happened to the Adamas? Lee was once a Commander and now he turns in his wings to be a civie... Of course Adama is being an arse about the whole trial.

[Guest Segurant]

So far the character advancement all seem to be heading towards the "I am having a hard time liking them."

[Guest Emperor]

Spoilers ALERT. I have all the answers... This was posted on Friday of last week about the two part season finale. Anything that happened on Sunday will be left in regular text and anything coming up next week will be whited out.

 

This gives away everything, so read only if you do not care about twists and turns.

 

* The fleet realizes the Cylons are somehow following it to Earth.

 

* Tigh talks to Six about it, but their conversation (thanks to Six’s Inner Gaius) turns into a fistfight.

 

* Anastasia Dualla leaves Lee Adama over Lee’s defense of Baltar.

 

* Apparently a cult has risen in the fleet identifying Baltar as a prophet of some kind.

 

* Baltar is not prosecuted for his role in the destruction of the 12 colonies due to lack of hard evidence. He will be tried only for his New Caprica actions.

 

* Kara’s widower is now training beside Seelix as a pilot.

 

* The fate of Ellen Tigh comes up in Baltar’s trial.

 

* Lee and Bill Adama each ask the other to excuse themselves from their roles in Baltar’s trial. The argument escalates until Lee quits the colonial military!

 

* Roslin dreams of the place Baltar and Six visited on Kobol. Hera is there, and Six and Sharon and Baltar and the Final Five. And it turns out Roslin, Sharon and Six were all having the same dream simultaneously.

 

* On the stand, Roslin admits she’s back to doing Kamala, because her cancer has returned.

 

* Gaeta lies on the stand. He says Baltar never protested when the Cylons told him to sign execution orders.

 

* Lee proves himself every inch Joseph Adama’s grandson. There is a not-guilty verdict in Baltar’s trial.

 

* Saul Tigh, Galen Tyrol, Sam Anders and Tory Foster (Roslin’s aide) start hearing low, distracting music a lot of the others don’t hear. Are they four of the Final Five?? (And the music appears to be – GET THIS - Bob Dylan’s “All Along the Watchtower”!!! How!! But!! WHAT!!!!)

 

* Anders and Tory have a make-out session.

 

* Adama tells an unhappy Roslin it was his swing vote that freed Baltar.

 

* Right after the verdict, the Cylons attack! The entire fleet loses power!

 

* Baltar’s cult whisks him away to safety,

 

* Tigh, Tyrol, Anders and Foster are all independently driven by the Dylan tune to the same launch tube. All four are horrified to come to the conclusion that they’ve all always been Cylons!

 

* The lights come on. Everyone is ordered to battle stations. Tigh, Tyrol and Anders scramble to their posts.

 

* Lee too is back in uniform and notices an unidentified craft on the DRADIS. When he investigates, he finds Kara in her viper. She says she’s been to Earth and can show them the way.

[Guest Yveva]

mmmmmm. I love the smell of spoilers in the morning :)

 

I still really wish that Roslin were a cylon. It'd be great.

[Guest Segurant]

BAH! I don't like identifying 4 of the 5 original Cylons just yet.

[Werthead]

Article speculating that Season 4 will be the last season of BSG, based on insider info from the Sci-Fi Channel.

[JenniferL]

Yo! Wert! I emailed you the other day. Go check it.

[Guest Emperor]

he Hollywood Reporter says SCI FI Channel will air a two-hour "Battlestar Galactica" episode in the fall that will bridge the gap between the current third season and the fourth season slated to begin in January.

 

The episode will feature the whole cast and not necessarily be related to the story line. It will be filmed in the next few months as the show returns to production and will then be marketed as a separate DVD.

 

In other "Battlestar" news, the network had picked up the back-nine episodes of the upcoming Season 4.

[Guest Emperor]

Isn't this the top show for Sci Fi, why would they can it?

[Werthead]

Yo! Wert! I emailed you the other day. Go check it.

 

Sorry about that. And I have to turn you down :( I've got so many balls in the air at the moment and my review blog is starting to get more successful, so I don't have the time I'm afraid. Plus it's now been about seven years since my last WoT 1-9 re-read, so I've forgotten a ton of stuff and don't really have time for a series re-read (although I hope to get round to it in late 2008 before the last book comes out). Sorry!

 

Back on-topic, Battlestar Galactica is no longer Sci-Fi's top-rated show. It's rating performance in Season 3 has been absolutely disastrous, less than half of Season 2's average and less than a third of the mini-series. One episode (Starbuck's death episode) dipped below a million viewers, which is appalling for a first-run, heavily-trailed, much-hyped episode. The show continues to do okay overseas and DVD sales have been strong, as have iTunes downloads (at one point this year it was second only to Lost in the download charts). However, that first-run figure is the one everyone looks for and is the area that BSG is falling apart on. The Sci-Fi Channel admit it's their own fault (putting the show up against much stronger competition than before), which is why they've renewed it for Season 4, but the show is still not improving even in its new, stronger slot.

 

On the creative side, Season 3 has been criticised much more than the first two and RDM admitted that a serious storyline mistake in Season 3 has hurt a lot of the episodes (the deletion of an entire arc plot from the season which required scenes to be hacked out of every episode in the season from the New Caprica episodes onewards). Rather like Lost, BSG is also built around central mysteries and ongoing storylines which need to be resolved and, once they are resolved, the show no longer can exist in its current state, thus the show must end. Whilst Lost probably has enough material to make it to its fifth season, BSG seems to be using up its plot revelations at a much faster rate, and an ending in Season 4 does seem to be the most natural thing to do, as suggested by this article.

[Guest Segurant]

here is a thought, don't move the show to Sundays at 10 PM

[Guest Emperor]

I think they moved it there because Friday ratings were down and Sunday night is usually a better time slot.

 

What is Sci-fi's top show? Stargate?

 

Hey I am all for BSG going out on top and not trying to stretch a story line. I like how it doesn't wait until the season premiere to make moves and deliver great shows.

[Guest Segurant]

I liked BSG when it had Stargate as a lead in. It was your basic Sci-Fi Friday, SG1, Atlantis, and then BSG. I like Dresden but it is not a good lead-in.

 

This is all my opinion.