SCOOBY GAME THREAD - TOWN WINS

[Mafia-7]

So anyone has a definitive result on whether it's possible to steal from the gang members?

 

Are you really asking if anyone stole from Mummy?

[Mafia-2]

 

 

 

 

I think you're wrong about that but I'll indulge you for now.  I have a question though.  Why shouldn't we have just let you die in the trap?  According to the logic you're using to keep Coffin in there, that was probably a 50% shot at scum.

 

I could be wrong, yes.  As to the trap, the chances are high that there are not 2 scum in it.  I know my alignment, so there you go.  Do scum control the traps?  My guess is yes - that is kinda the flavor for what Fred does.

 

Is the trap for 2 townies?  Maybe.  Are the being cute and tossing a scum in there to attempt a vet 'till endgame?  Maybe.  All maybes.  Nothing I'm saying is certain - I'm playing the chances here.

 

Does that help clarify my thought process?

 

 

 

 

 

And what about for those of us who don't know your alignment?  Cuz I know my alignment and it's town.

 

Trap is mod-confirmed scum ability btw.  Just like it's mod-confirmed that there were more than 3 suits.

 

 

You weren't in the trap, so that isn't relevant to my trap/alignment thoughts.

 

And if there are 4 suits, your lynch is a 50% chance for scum.  Most towns I know of would take that in a heartbeat.

 

 

 

If you say so.  I led a lynch on the Scummy Mummy.  So well that the Ape accused me of bussing.

 

 

 

I seem to remember you not leading the lynch.

[Mafia-8]

You have given me no reason to trust you.

Except that no one is claiming we are conf-Town other than the Mod - who has confirmed it.

 

That renders the rest of your post irrelevant drivel.  You either play ball or get lynched.  I'm good either way.

[Mafia-2]

Are you serious?  You and Wax are going to play this game?  I don't care if you're Jesus Christ risen and come down to earth in the guise of the most tempting slab of bacon I've ever seen.  

 

 

YOU HAVE GIVEN ME NO EVIDENCE OF YOUR COMPETENCE.

 

 

In case you didn't notice, the above statement, the latter not the former, is in all caps for emphasis.  This is because all I know about you consists of you sucking and getting a second chance because you were blessed with a skin suit.  Seriously, I don't know who is worse, you two or the Slitheen.  If this were a normal game I wouldn't have to be sit here and listen to you guys romping about with reckless abandon. 

 

Let me say it again:

 

You've given me no reason to believe that you are good enough at this game to understand the information, let alone utilize it in a way that helps the town.

 

 

 

So again, from the top, why should I trust you with my information?  

 

 

Oh right, because you're confirmed town.

 

 

Sorry, that's not good enough for me.  And frankly it shouldn't be for anyone else either.

 

 

Oh, and regarding your last two statements, your carelessness is noted.  It only further supports my position.

[Mafia-1]

Still waiting to get out of the bear trap.

[Mafia-1]

Funny that Kook got out so quickly but me, who is basically confirmed town by Mantis/Wax, is still stuck. 

[Mafia-17]

 

I seem to remember you not leading the lynch.

That's because your memory is terrible.

[Mafia-8]

Are you serious? 

Yup.  You are going to die tomorrow.  Promise.

[Mafia-17]

Final Vote Count:

 

Wax Phantom (1) - Jaguaro

Mummy (15) - Tar Monster, Hyde, Ghost, Kook, Elias, Werewolf, Zombie, Snow Beast, Mantis, Cat Creature, 10,000, Demon Shark, Dr. Coffin, Wax, Pterodactyl

Pterodactyl (1) - Miner

Ghost (3) - Skeleton, Phantom, Black Knight

Dr. Coffin (1) - Cutler

Jaguaro (1) - Charlie

 

With 26 players, it takes 14 votes to lynch

 

 

Exhibit 14.

 

Also, please not that it took an extra vote to lynch Mummy.

[Mafia-17]

 

Current Vote Count:

 

Ghost Clown (15) - Hyde, Capt., Snow Beast, 10,000, Witch Doc., Kook, Knight, Skeleton, Elias, Creeper, Cat Creature, Charlie, Miner, Creepy heap, Tar Monster

Snow Beast (1) - Phantom

Black Knight (7) - Jaguaro, Pterodactyl, Phantom, Ghost Clown, Mummy, Ghost, Werewolf

Miner 49'er (1) - Dr. Coffin

 

With 27 players, it takes 15 to lynch

 

 

 

Also noticed on reread that it took 15 votes to lynch on D1 when we only had 27 players.

 

I call DPR shenanigans.

[DPR]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dont' think mafia are stealing from people.  But it wouldn't be hard for you and Witch to both be mafia and claim stealing to "validate" both of you. 

 

As for your plan, at least the idea of a watcher seems reasonable. 

 

 

We literally have no idea how to properly scumhunt yet.  You think scum would put themselves out there like that when town is this confused?  I don't.

 

 

REALLY?

 

 

SRS

 

We don't know the mechanics properly.  If I stole from you and was caught, does that make you scum?  We don't think so (somebody said DPR said no - I haven't confirmed - he's had enough questions from me already).  But we don't know exactly how it works.

 

You, on the other hand, aren't really hunting much.  No pushing and prodding - no unexplained votes to gauge reactions like you normally do.  I want your suit validated.  That means lynching your one-eyed lump of goo.

 

 

 

Bringing the meta in now are we?

 

In that case, how about I remind you of your constant rants against Role Madness and Kitchen Sink games because they distract from real scumhunting.  We've had 4 lynches so far, one of them a scum lynch.  How about you show us some of that "real scumhunting" you're always going on about.

 

I've been doing that.  I analyzed the action around the Mummy lynch and Charlie and Pterodactyl looked particularly bad.

 

 

Oh baby, a real debate.  Finally.

 

You're forgetting that Wes' games are not like the Kitchen Sink games I rant about.  Those game cram everything in there, including the kitchen sink, hence the moniker.  You've seen enough come through to you, so you know exactly what I mean when I say those games are not like this one.  Wes does NOT do that.  His setups are intricate, with a simple mafia game underneath.  But you need to figure your way through the layers before you know the scumhunting you're doing is accurate.

 

 

 

I've never run the same game twice. The last game didn't even have a role, per say, so when people said they wanted an advanced game, I doubled-down on this one. There is a solid mechanic underneath all of the finery, I'll grant you, but you've got a bit more digging to do. 

 

 

 

Oh baby, a real debate.  Finally.

 

You're forgetting that Wes' games are not like the Kitchen Sink games I rant about.  Those game cram everything in there, including the kitchen sink, hence the moniker.  You've seen enough come through to you, so you know exactly what I mean when I say those games are not like this one.  Wes does NOT do that.  His setups are intricate, with a simple mafia game underneath.  But you need to figure your way through the layers before you know the scumhunting you're doing is accurate.

 

 

 

Every time I've tried to game Wes I've failed.  As both town and scum.  (last Suras game, Dark Monocle, Jaws, Ghost Mafia all come to mind).

 

Most times that I scumhunt I succeed.

 

 

Only one that ever came close was Kivam. Then he got lynched.

 

 

 

 

Current Vote Count:

 

Ghost Clown (15) - Hyde, Capt., Snow Beast, 10,000, Witch Doc., Kook, Knight, Skeleton, Elias, Creeper, Cat Creature, Charlie, Miner, Creepy heap, Tar Monster

Snow Beast (1) - Phantom

Black Knight (7) - Jaguaro, Pterodactyl, Phantom, Ghost Clown, Mummy, Ghost, Werewolf

Miner 49'er (1) - Dr. Coffin

 

With 27 players, it takes 15 to lynch

 

 

 

Also noticed on reread that it took 15 votes to lynch on D1 when we only had 27 players.

 

I call DPR shenanigans.

 

 

It kills me that this is the first mention of this and that you didn't even point out the rest...

 

There are Vote Count shenanigans afoot, and I've laid a few false trails to get you in the mood. You'll get a kick out of the actual show.

[Mafia-8]

Here's the deal, guys, we have caught two scum in our matrix.

 

Can't tell you the alignment of Charlie or Demon Shark yet, but they are fairly close to being implicated.

 

We need info from Cutler, 10k Volt, Skeleton, and TBK.

 

Everyone else is good.  Once we have info from anyone on this list that isn't scum and that doesn't want to be lynched, I can tell you the two confirmed scum.  Okay, I use "confirmed" loosely.  There's a chance someone screwed up their night action orders so we are getting those straightened out as well as possible.  It's also possible we are wrong about which person is lying when we have conflicting actions - though the probability we are wrong is very low and in one instance is 0% because someone is countering a Jags move so we know it's BS.

 

The ONLY thing that would keep us from being 100% sure is knowing if any of you that didn't check in made an action that caused their claimed action results to be possible.

 

So PLEASE submit your Night actions if you are Town so we can wrap this up and be home for dinner.

[Mafia-17]

In b4 "blah blah COMPETENCE blah" retort from Demon Shark.

[Mafia-17]

And DPR, I've been watching the final VCs carefully since we almost messed up D1.

 

I'll be expanding my search soon as I expect we have some meddling kids to blame for all this ballyhoo.

[Mafia-14]

 

Wax made some good points on Charlie. I'd also be willing to go for Shark, partly due to gut feeling, but his/her posting seems off.

 

 

Vote Charlie

 

As she/he has done all game, Heap lurkscumagrees.

 

He/she has a RL and a job that comes with it. That means not being able to post at all hours.

 

 

 

DR. COFFIN (7) - Wax, Zombie, Charlie, Creeper, Witch, Tar, Cat

 

SPACE KOOK (11)  - Wax, Hyde, Kook, Zombie, Creepy Heap, Cutler, Charlie, Creeper, Witch, Tar, Cat

 

It takes 12 votes each to release Dr. Coffin and Space Kook.

 

Why the difference between Coffin and Kook?  Hyde, Kook, and Creepy Heap, I'm lookin' at you.  Why exactly would you vote to release one and not the other? 

 

I believed I think it was Hyde, who had a viewing on Kook for the reasons they submitted. (It had been backed up but I can't find the quote atm. I will find it shortly. At any rate I have nothing to  go on for Coffin so I didn't vote for his/her release. 

 

I think we should let COFFIN go.

 

I find him unlikely to be scum and if he's town, killing him wouldn't really yield any useful information, unfortunately.

Is there a reason for this that I missed? 

[Mafia-14]

 

 

Release Space Kook

 

I know he's town, I viewed him N1.

Not fully caught up but wanted to comment on this. That's not necessarily true, there are mirrors after all.

 

 

He has told me his actions for each night, I believe him and that my viewing is true.

 

Here is the quote from Hyde I was talking about earlier.

[Mafia-14]

 

Current Vote Counts:

 

Zombie (2) - Mantis, Elias 

Charlie (9) - Ptero, Tar, Zombie, Creeper, 10,000, Hyde, Cat, Creepy Heap, Phantom

Creepy heap (1) - Ghost 

 

With 22 players, it takes 12 to lynch

 

DR. COFFIN (10) - Wax, Zombie, Charlie, Creeper, Witch, Tar, Cat, Ghost, Miner, Coffin

 

SPACE KOOK (13)  - Wax, Hyde, Kook, Zombie, Creepy Heap, Cutler, Charlie, Creeper, Witch, Tar, Cat, Ghost, Miner - SPACE KOOK IS RELEASED

 

It takes 12 votes each to release Dr. Coffin and Space Kook.

 

DPR: What is the deadline?

[Mafia-14]

 

PLAYER LIST:

 

1. CREEPER mafia

2. PHANTOM mafia

3. CAPT. CUTLER mafia

4. CHARLIE ROBOT mafia

5. BLACK KNIGHT mafia

6. PTERODACTYL mafia

7. SPACE KOOK mafia

8. MUMMY mafia - Krak, subbing in for Lenlo Lynched D2

9. WITCH DOCTOR mafia

10. WEREWOLF mafia - Csarmi, lynched D3

11. TAR MONSTER mafia

12. 10,000 VOLT mafia

13. SNOW BEAST mafia - Dap, arrested N2

14. CREEPY HEAP mafia

15. MR. HYDE mafia

16. GHOST CLOWN mafia - Krak. Lynched D1

17. ELIAS KINGSTON mafia

18. WAX PHANTOM mafia

19. CAT CREATURE mafia

20. MANTIS mafia

21. GHOST mafia

22. SKELETON mafia

23. JAGUARO mafia - Mr. E, lynched D3

24. MINER 49'er mafia 

25. ZOMBIE mafia

26. DEMON SHARK mafia

27. DR. COFFIN mafia

 

 

Those who have used a 1x cop view:

 

Creeper, Phantom & Werewolf.

 

Those who had a 1x cop stolen from them:

 

Jag (there might be more that I missed)

 

Extra accounts:

 

Mantis & Zombie

Took me awhile to find ^ post. It's not much I realize, but looking at it tells me Phantom and Creeper are likely town. Put that with Mantis and Wax and that's 4 townies and narrows things down a bit. Add that to what Hyde got on Kook (the cop viewing and PM), that's 5. (22 players remain. 21 with Tar being Zombie). 

[DPR]

Deadline in just over 13 hrs.

[Mafia-17]

Why hasn't Coffin been released yet?

[DPR]

Current Vote Counts:

 

Zombie (2) - Mantis, Elias 

Charlie (9) - Ptero, Tar, Zombie, Creeper, 10,000, Hyde, Cat, Creepy Heap, Phantom

Creepy heap (1) - Ghost 

 

With 22 players, it takes 12 to lynch

 

DR. COFFIN (11) - Wax, Zombie, Charlie, Creeper, Witch, Tar, Cat, Ghost, Miner, Coffin, Elias

 

It takes 12 votes each to release Dr. Coffin

 

Deadline in just over 13 hours.

[Mafia-17]

 

Yeah cop views would be useful if we knew where the mirrors were.  But scum abilities would also be more useful if they knew where the mirrors were.  For now I'm jsut waiting to get my hands on a flashlight.

 

I'm not convinced the scum are targeting with typical abilities.  If the town moves in unison, the extra bit of knowledge the scum gain will pale in comparison to what the town would gain.  Agreed?

 

 

Also, wtf is a flashlight?  Is that a Cop viewing?

 

I disagree. I think you're assuming too much about the scum abilities.

 

 

Maybe you could just press the button with your tongue.

@_@ MUSN'T. GO. THERE.

 

Also, didn't you have some questions for Coffin or something?

 

 

I was wondering why that sounded familiar.  Nice, but you need to guess the exact member of the gang....you could be looking at Daphne but guess Velma and miss on an opportunity to find scum.

Well seeing as you think it's somewhat important to find Fred, I thought it might be a good item to have. 

 

 

 

I would not have admitted that - you realize the Ape's best reads are his early ones, right?

You care too much about how you look imo.  Also, Ape also thought I was JiF and Werewolf was mafia at the time so the evidence so far points to his reads at the time being garbage.

[CHARLIE ROBOT mafia]

 

Pitiful.

 

Do any of you have a case and reasoning or am I supposed to say "No i'm not!" Everytime someone calls me mafia?

 

Is that how this works?

You send me all your night actions in PM and we'll see how it works. Or you die.

 

 

You are the single most incompetent individual in this game followed shortly by Mantis.  I could shat farther than I am willing to trust you and you can GFY or lynch me if you think that threatening is going to make a bit of difference.  I have absolutely no problem watching you sink to the bloodbath of your twin stupidity.  They'll lynch you for it once they get smart.

 

 

You have given me no reason to trust you.  You and Mantis played a terrible game, were lynched, and now you want everyone to send you all their info so that you and Mantis can piece it together.  I'd rather not have you and Mantis running the show.  I don't care that you two claim to be the "only confirmed town," you've given me no reason to believe that you and your partner in crime are competent enough to look at the information, let alone sort through it and lead the town with your tweedle dee, tweedle dum routine that you have going on.  I play my cards close to the chest, especially in a DPR game, and if you can't deal with that then you better start preparing for the incoming apoplexia.

 

Burn!  I think I love you a little for this post.

 

QFT

[Mafia-10]

You are the single most incompetent individual in this game followed shortly by Mantis.  I could shat farther than I am willing to trust you and you can GFY or lynch me if you think that threatening is going to make a bit of difference.  I have absolutely no problem watching you sink to the bloodbath of your twin stupidity.  They'll lynch you for it once they get smart.

Your words cut rather deeply

They're just some other lies

Hiding from a distance

You've got to pay the price

[CREEPER mafia]

 

 

Pitiful.

 

Do any of you have a case and reasoning or am I supposed to say "No i'm not!" Everytime someone calls me mafia?

 

Is that how this works?

You send me all your night actions in PM and we'll see how it works. Or you die.

 

 

You are the single most incompetent individual in this game followed shortly by Mantis.  I could shat farther than I am willing to trust you and you can GFY or lynch me if you think that threatening is going to make a bit of difference.  I have absolutely no problem watching you sink to the bloodbath of your twin stupidity.  They'll lynch you for it once they get smart.

 

Why would we lynch two confirmed townies just because you and Demon Shark have a low opinion of their intelligence?

 

What do you think is the risk to town by having two people who are confirmed town collect the night actions? Worst case scenario, what is it that you think is going to happen by giving people that you think are dumb a full list of our abilities and night actions?