SCOOBY GAME THREAD - TOWN WINS

[Mafia-15]

Thoughts

jaguar is mafia, but I'm thinking symp. Everything about him is awful

Creeper heaper is mafia. He got weirdly defensive when he was called out D1. He then unvotes ASAP when BK (Black Kight) claims watcher, normal play, but doesn't seem aware of how the roles are set up. (My own PM and role suggested a bunch of 1x. creeper seems oblivious to this or atleast attempting to. That seems to me how a mafia would play it)

 

While that is going on Werewolf is being "sublte" and Pming everyone to try get reactions on the BK reveal and discredit it a little. He also blatantly comes out fishing in his PM to me.

He also distances from Creeper a bit on thread

 

So

jag

wolfie

Creeper

 

Get 'em

[Mafia-1]

Vote Ghost

 

 

A) we need a lynch

B) I don't want to blind lynch this Mummy situation away

C) FOS on Dr Coffin dependendt on the flip.

 

I don't want to lynch Mummy either, I'm afraid of a silencer. DPR has suggested that role to me in multiple games I've run.

 

I'm okay with the FOS, I'm also okay with being wrong. Ghost isn't helping. Call that a hedge if  you want, don't care. I'm going after the people being divisive and/or illogical, and my list has the top 3 offenders on it.

 

You seem to be one of the more competent here, run with it.

[Mafia-15]

Now

vote ghost

I too would like to hear from Mummy. Much to answer for

 

I've gtg. I should be more active again from tomorrow. I dropped my phone in the toilet so Ive been out of my main means of mafia

[Mafia-13]

We have a few hours til deadline still, I'd like to keep some pressure on Mummy in case they don't get on on the weekends. If he doesn't show in a bit I'll change over to ghost.

[Mafia-10]

 

vote Dr. Coffin

To the points you raised, and not understanding, I'll clarify simply: I believe Ghost was saying "let's move on" to insulate his agenda with a pro-town disclaimer, because he followed that statement but then followed it by pushing hard at continued focus on Black Knight, et al.

 

In other words, his post had conflicting agendas in it - I only believe he meant the part of it that pushed a scum agenda.

 

Scum, while pushing their agenda, often insulate or try to disguise what they say with "townie" sounding blanket statements.

 

I made one vote on Dr. Coffin calling him jealous scum and now he's been pelting me with turds nonstop the whole day. Dude wants my amorphous body. Can't have it.

This is a lie. All of it.

 

I voted you first, calling you out on goading people to vote a townie on D1. You vote me back and then hid, I am not even voting you now just keeping you in my top 3 because I know how you defend as scum and this is it, but your boy Ghost is my top suspect.

 

Typically, a town JIF would be all over what I'm seeing from Ghost - yet you are more focused on reversing momentum to take me out, because I'm likely a threat to you. Got it. You stay in my top 3.

 

Interesting catch there, do you claim you know that TAR=JiF? How?

[Mafia-13]

I guess I'm a lucky one to not have a PM from Werewolf.

[Mafia-18]

I guess I'm a lucky one to not have a PM from Werewolf.

Just let me know if you feel being left out. We can amend this.

[Mafia-13]

 

I guess I'm a lucky one to not have a PM from Werewolf.

Just let me know if you feel being left out. We can amend this.

 

 

No, I'm good thanks. Anything I have to say to you can be said on thread.

[Mafia-18]

To be serious: if we are given a tool for scumhunting, we should be using it.

[Mafia-18]

No, I'm good thanks. Anything I have to say to you can be said on thread.

Like your posts so far. Not much to talk about.

[Mafia-18]

 

 

Gaming the mod's meta to support a "let's go lynch crazy" agenda is pinging big time. There may be something to what you are advocating, but it needs to be tempered with more of an understanding of the setup. So far, we've seen a bunch of derps make believe they know what they are doing on D1, and basically only pressure 1 - 2 people in a game with what 20+ people in it?

 

Now you want to get lynch crazy and just start cranking them out, without actually putting in the scum hunting work?

 

Riiiiight. Good plan. I stand over here and watch... then when it's time for someone to fix your mess, I'll take care of it. LOL

FOS COFFIN

 

So - the biggest weapon town has is lynching. We need to use that weapon as well as possible and as often as possible.

Right now we're doing neither. It's anti-town to suggest that we shouldn't try and take advantage of our weapons. If you can lynch twice a day, you should lynch twice a day.

 

You're right that there isn't enough pressuring. It's the end of D2 and we had two trains total and even those two were messed up because they arrived too late. That's about 1/4th of what we should have had by now.

 

 

Surprise, surprise... the other of my top 3 pushing momentum my way.

 

Awesome.

 

I feel like I may have as many as 2/3 of my list correct. ]If I need to be lynched for the rest of you herp-a-derps to be able to re-read and see these 3 all shifting momentum at me, then go for it... just don't forget to read back through it and then kill them.

 

Also, to the bold - you are spinning. I never suggested we don't use them, I suggested we learn more about the game dynamic, then use them, rather than using them irresponsibly and without caution. Yes, this was a terribly anti-town statement.

 

The green: it isn't helping. If you're town, make sure you don't get lynched, usually there's much more info on scum lynches, and also there is the fact that lynching scum, well, it kills scum.

 

The blue: fair enough, but there's usually entirely too much caution going on here, not too little. Also with MINER's claim of stealing a Magistrate role, we actually been in a hurry today, but, whatever.

[Mafia-8]

I am getting caught up but this post makes me want to puke and vote ghost.

[Mafia-5]

Alright, Black Knight, it has been long enough.  Who did Mummy visit?

[Mafia-7]

Ghost - You said you can't think of any town roles with multiple targets but you can mafia - what are those roles? Or is it just something said out of hand to paint mummy mafia and push the blind lynch?

 

Yes, any mafia power role would visit two people to use both the power role and the NK.  For instance, mafia role blocker could visit person A to RB and person B to NK. 

 

 

 

Yeah, right.

 

Blatant backpedalling going on here.

 

Don't act like I didn't "respond to your point" when you weren't making one, you were spinning my statements about assuming they are town given their claims, into an opportunistic accusation. You were implying I knew they were town, and only scum knows who town is. This is the type of manipulation that comes from the scum point of view, I've employed the tactic plenty of times.

 

Reality: what I said was the most logical, pro-town approach to take with Black Knight.

 

You were insisting we crater on them, with a deadline looming. You were, and are, wasting time in a game where getting the votes we need towards a lynch is tough. That is a scum agenda.

 

 

You're too stupid to respond to any more.  So if you figure out the whole reading comprehension thing, check out Zombie's post which pretty much sums things up.

 

 

 

I don't think Black Knight is cleared.  Just that pursuing him at this stage in the game is counter-productive.

 

 

 

Really? I have a town viewing on him; DPR has told us here is no godfather. We've been told that it's not possible to steal abilites in use, wich clears the WIFOM around those trying to steal his role. What else do you have that means Black Knight isn't cleared?

 

I would need to know that you are actually town.  It's not difficult for mafia to come up with a strategy of " fake 1x cop view on themselves" in a DPR game where we all know there may be some interesting mechanics. 

 

 

 

Good catch.  Wolf sounds a lot like mafia worried about the thievery.

 

 

I don't think Black Knight is cleared.  Just that pursuing him at this stage in the game is counter-productive.

 

This reaction to 1000 volt's FOS on werewolf is gross. Volt provided the FOS on a post that pinged him, Ghost is providing a narrative to bolster the FOS and perhaps create the premise for momentum.

 

Really? I have a town viewing on him; DPR has told us here is no godfather. We've been told that it's not possible to steal abilites in use, wich clears the WIFOM around those trying to steal his role. What else do you have that means Black Knight isn't cleared?

 

This.

 

Ghost is still doing the "he's not in the clear" bit? 

 

Ghost is directing traffic on suspicion, and adding narrative where needed, while introducing illogical snags where they aren't needed.

 

Nothing pro-town about anything he's doing.

 

Ghost, Tar Monster = scum.

 

I'll vote either.

 

 

So you know 100% that Phantom is town and that he used a cop viewing on Black Knight?  Why don't you tell us all how you know this? 

 

I stated that going after Black Knight is not productive.  But I don't know Ptero is town and that means I don't know Black Knight is town. 

 

Unlike you who seems to know 100% they are town and mafia is the only faction that could possibly know who is and who isn't town.

 

 

If you asked assbrain questions like this, you'll get treated like an assbrain.

 

You are encouraging the pursuit of a non-issue, we have all the information we need for now regarding Phantom and Black Knight. Nobody is saying either is 100% town, but given the circumstance around their reveals - we can move on. If they are NOT town, it will become abundantly clear. It's not like we're all going to suddenly forget their reveals, and the commentary around it. So, why crater on undermining what we might as well assume is two townies?

 

There is a large field of players, it makes more sense to move on. Yet, you are insistent upon redirecting the conversation back to Phantom/Black Knight every time someone else tries to poke around. 

 

If you are town, then STFU and let the competent people scum hunt - you aren't helping anyone but yourself to the center of attention.

 

 

Hey guys I don't understand this:

 

-Ghost says Black Knight isn't cleared but he doesn't want to push him yet.

 

-Dr. Coffin says Ghost is "adding narrative" and "directing traffic on suspicion" and "introducing illogical snags."  Is it just me or did Dr. Coffin just spew a whole bunch of narrative with almost no content while accusing Ghost of doing the same?

 

-Dr. Coffin then says almost exactly what Ghost said in the first quote except he took about 6 or 7 times as many words to do it.  He also accuses Ghost of encouraging the pursuit of a non-issue when this whole pointless argument started with Dr. Coffin misrepping Ghost's original statement.

 

 

So either I'm missing something or Dr. Coffin has dumb brains.  0/10 would not eat.

 

[Mafia-7]

MOD QUESTION

 

Given the weekend and low player involvement can we get 24 more hours to secure a lynch?

[DPR]

Current Vote Count:

 

Creepy Heap (1) - Werewolf

Wax Phantom (1) - Jaguaro

Mummy (5) - Tar Monster, Pterodactyl, Hyde, Wax, Ghost

Cat Creature (1) - Miner

Space Kook (1) - 10,000

Ghost (3) - Skeleton, Dr. Coffin, Phantom, Snow Beast

Dr. Coffin (2) - Zombie, Cutler

 

With 26 players, it takes 14 to lynch

 

Deadline Tuesday @ 4:05 pm - 31HRS

[DPR]

MOD QUESTION

 

Given the weekend and low player involvement can we get 24 more hours to secure a lynch?

 

Given the weekend and several players letting me know of random reasons they have not been able to login, I have extended the deadline by 24 hrs.

[Mafia-7]

Thank you.

[PHANTOM mafia]

Alright, Black Knight, it has been long enough.  Who did Mummy visit?

 

Dude you're missing the whole point. If you think by now that Black Knight is town (or at least leaning town-ish), then you don't want him to answer that now. If Mummy is mafia, we have the opportunity to catch him in a trap. It's better he gives us his story, and then BK can verify. At least that's how I see it. 

[Mafia-14]

Don't have a lot of time atm, but I agree with the idea of not blind lynching Mummy.

[Mafia-17]

DR ZAIUS COFFIN is doing his stupid Ape scum thing. He makes terrible cases and won't shut up when they get destroyed. Anyone who defends against him is OMGUSing and anyone else he ignores. But he accuses other of cratering. LOL. What a clown.

 

Yes, I made an OMGUS vote on DR COFFIN for lulz. The I removed it (which he FoS too because he's a stupid monkey). That doesn't mean he gets to call everything I say against him as OMGUS even when I'm not voting him.

 

HUGD FOS on everyone pushing the Silencer angle. If you had actually read the thread you would know that Mummy has posted once today. It was early on and about a stupid clown outfit and how it clashes or something.

[Mafia-17]

HEY GUYS IF YOU KEEP SAYING HOW YOU'RE NOT GONNA BLIND LYNCH MUMMY, GUESS WHO'S NOT GONNA POST? SACK UP AND PUT SOME VOTES ON HIM. IT'S NOT LIKE HE HAS A PERMANENT COP ROLE.

[Mafia-17]

inb4 Ape "goading" Pied Piper BS

[Mafia-21]

To be serious: if we are given a tool for scumhunting, we should be using it.

 

It can also be used for misdirection.  I'd rather have it on thread.

[Mafia-21]

Typically, a town JIF would be all over what I'm seeing from Ghost - yet you are more focused on reversing momentum to take me out, because I'm likely a threat to you. Got it. You stay in my top 3.

 

I'm pretty sure Tar Monster is not JiF.