[Basic] Operation Domination - Game Over - Mafia Wins

[Balthamel-Mafia]

Been on vacation. I'm speed-reading to catch up right now. Sorry to be a drag on the rest of you.

[Balthamel-Mafia]

So we're waiting for people to vote who have not even participated? Oh good.

Got somebody you want me to vote?

[Balthamel-Mafia]

I'm still in the low thirties, BTW.

[Balthamel-Mafia]

Up to page 42... I'm doing my best.

 

FWIW, I do find it interesting that both Mordeth and Mesaana both popped out of the woodwork to answer to Graen. In light of how many votes Graen has, I'm not sure why anyone would choose to be lead around by weakly-crafted cases, nor why anyone would feel the need to defend against them. It's pretty clear that this joker will do anything to get the spotlight off of him/herself.

 

I'm also highly, highly suspicious of the timing of Graen's "accidental" ident-slip (which was the basis for the entire case against SH, btw...).

 

Graen, I've had a bully vibe from you all game, like you're trying to swing your rep around and it's supposed to mean something. I find this terribly annoying. Since you've been sure to make it known, be honest with me and tell me if that is what you are trying to do. Unfortunately, you've made it a part of the game, so I'd like it out in the open for the town to judge.

Agreed. I think the identity reveal was a way to get us off his back since everybody knows EP plays all over the place. I'm getting pings from Grendael so hard that they sound like bass drums.

[Balthamel-Mafia]

Caught up. Now I know who you want me to vote... vote Ishamael. I can promise that I won't go missing again. In fact, I'm going to have more computer time once school starts back up next week.

[Guest Halima-Mafia]

I was trying to be clear so that I didn't get spun by DJ Graen. I still have a gut town read on SH, but I didn't draw a connection between Ishy and Graen. And I'm open to any and all of your casing for obvious reasons.

 

I'm sorry to keep hammering at you like this, but you're not giving me a straight answer. Given that Ishy's actions can be understood as supporting Graendal (agreeing with her case, voting for you), how do they now affect your read on her? And, how does that read differ from the one you have on SH as a result of Moridin supporting him?

 

[Asmodean-Mafia]

I was trying to be clear so that I didn't get spun by DJ Graen. I still have a gut town read on SH, but I didn't draw a connection between Ishy and Graen. And I'm open to any and all of your casing for obvious reasons.

 

I'm sorry to keep hammering at you like this, but you're not giving me a straight answer. Given that Ishy's actions can be understood as supporting Graendal (agreeing with her case, voting for you), how do they now affect your read on her? And, how does that read differ from the one you have on SH as a result of Moridin supporting him?

 

I don't consider it hammering, so no worries. I am trying to explain where I'm coming from - you had asked about connections drawn between SH and Moridin vs. Graendal and Ishy. With Moridin, I simply saw a play that I picked off as sheeping, and nothing Moridin said convinced me otherwise. I also argued with Demandred over the point, and clearly pointed out that I felt Demandred was defending Moridin. i still feel that way.

 

As far as Graendal goes, I feel the same way I have all game - scumtell after scumtell. Everything she has done has led me to this conclusion. I also feel that Moggy jumped in to help her defend against me and have been very clear that pending Graen's alignment, I'll be on her case next.

 

I base my opinion of Graen on her gameplay - not on Ishy. I base my opinion of SH, which is now "unknown" again, on his gameplay - which is to say that I consider Graen, Moggy and Demandred better cases than him. I just don't a huge mafia read form him, for better or worse.

 

I'm trying to answer you as clearly as I can - I feel like Moridin was an opportunist. Sh just kind of flailed, but not like he had something worked out in advance - he just looked like a goof. The Graen / Moggy defense looked like it had been talked about between them off-thread as they supported the same points without anyone asking.

 

What else can I say? And what do you see? Your out, so drawing attention to yourself is not an issue. What's bothering you so much?

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

I'm here. I got back yesterday but just finished catching up.

 

I'm inclined to believe an unCC'd finder. Vote Ishy

 

[Aginor-Mafia]

Lost my password for 24 hours. Otherwise I would have done this yesterday.

 

UNVOTE VOTE ISHY.

[Ishamael-Mafia]

Unvote, Vote Ishy

 

Don't get this vote wrong. This is purely for my own amusement, now. All we need is for Bel'al to show up and actually cast a vote, and we may well have the first fully unanimous vote in a DM mafia game.

[Dashiva-Mafia]

That would be a feat indeed!

[Graendal-Mafia]

I was trying to be clear so that I didn't get spun by DJ Graen. I still have a gut town read on SH, but I didn't draw a connection between Ishy and Graen. And I'm open to any and all of your casing for obvious reasons.

 

I'm sorry to keep hammering at you like this, but you're not giving me a straight answer. Given that Ishy's actions can be understood as supporting Graendal (agreeing with her case, voting for you), how do they now affect your read on her? And, how does that read differ from the one you have on SH as a result of Moridin supporting him?

 

I don't consider it hammering, so no worries. I am trying to explain where I'm coming from - you had asked about connections drawn between SH and Moridin vs. Graendal and Ishy. With Moridin, I simply saw a play that I picked off as sheeping, and nothing Moridin said convinced me otherwise. I also argued with Demandred over the point, and clearly pointed out that I felt Demandred was defending Moridin. i still feel that way.

 

As far as Graendal goes, I feel the same way I have all game - scumtell after scumtell. Everything she has done has led me to this conclusion. I also feel that Moggy jumped in to help her defend against me and have been very clear that pending Graen's alignment, I'll be on her case next.

 

I base my opinion of Graen on her gameplay - not on Ishy. I base my opinion of SH, which is now "unknown" again, on his gameplay - which is to say that I consider Graen, Moggy and Demandred better cases than him. I just don't a huge mafia read form him, for better or worse.

 

I'm trying to answer you as clearly as I can - I feel like Moridin was an opportunist. Sh just kind of flailed, but not like he had something worked out in advance - he just looked like a goof. The Graen / Moggy defense looked like it had been talked about between them off-thread as they supported the same points without anyone asking.

 

What else can I say? And what do you see? Your out, so drawing attention to yourself is not an issue. What's bothering you so much?

 

except you are scum so all these points of yours are invalid. You going to claim that you lead Ishy's case too now even though it was clearly Dashiva and dashiva alone?

[Graendal-Mafia]

Just a heads up I'm not going to have much to say d3 no matter the result here. You'll see why once it gets here >.>

[Asmodean-Mafia]

I was trying to be clear so that I didn't get spun by DJ Graen. I still have a gut town read on SH, but I didn't draw a connection between Ishy and Graen. And I'm open to any and all of your casing for obvious reasons.

 

I'm sorry to keep hammering at you like this, but you're not giving me a straight answer. Given that Ishy's actions can be understood as supporting Graendal (agreeing with her case, voting for you), how do they now affect your read on her? And, how does that read differ from the one you have on SH as a result of Moridin supporting him?

 

I don't consider it hammering, so no worries. I am trying to explain where I'm coming from - you had asked about connections drawn between SH and Moridin vs. Graendal and Ishy. With Moridin, I simply saw a play that I picked off as sheeping, and nothing Moridin said convinced me otherwise. I also argued with Demandred over the point, and clearly pointed out that I felt Demandred was defending Moridin. i still feel that way.

 

As far as Graendal goes, I feel the same way I have all game - scumtell after scumtell. Everything she has done has led me to this conclusion. I also feel that Moggy jumped in to help her defend against me and have been very clear that pending Graen's alignment, I'll be on her case next.

 

I base my opinion of Graen on her gameplay - not on Ishy. I base my opinion of SH, which is now "unknown" again, on his gameplay - which is to say that I consider Graen, Moggy and Demandred better cases than him. I just don't a huge mafia read form him, for better or worse.

 

I'm trying to answer you as clearly as I can - I feel like Moridin was an opportunist. Sh just kind of flailed, but not like he had something worked out in advance - he just looked like a goof. The Graen / Moggy defense looked like it had been talked about between them off-thread as they supported the same points without anyone asking.

 

What else can I say? And what do you see? Your out, so drawing attention to yourself is not an issue. What's bothering you so much?

 

except you are scum so all these points of yours are invalid. You going to claim that you lead Ishy's case too now even though it was clearly Dashiva and dashiva alone?

 

I'm torn between casing this, or just ignoring it, so I'm just going to briefly document it:

 

I think this is the most obvious scumbrandting I've ever seen. There is simply no way that anyone would read any of my posts and think that I claimed to take any credit at all for Dashiva nailing Ishy. But, if anyone is skimming and they read that, they would get the wrong idea. Scumtactic #313

[Asmodean-Mafia]

Just a heads up I'm not going to have much to say d3 no matter the result here. You'll see why once it gets here >.>

 

Same brief reply here - this is clearly aimed at implying I am scum and will kill Graen. This is the very definition of wifom, placed so that when Graen miraculously shows up alive in the morning, she can say that the scum are trying to frame her. Scumtactic #87

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

GraenEP I was originally getting a town vibe from you. Your recent posts, however, make me less sure of that.

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

This day is seriously taking too long. Why can't it just end? Can someone poke Red and just convince her to move the deadline a smidge closer?

[Graendal-Mafia]

Just a heads up I'm not going to have much to say d3 no matter the result here. You'll see why once it gets here >.>

 

Same brief reply here - this is clearly aimed at implying I am scum and will kill Graen. This is the very definition of wifom, placed so that when Graen miraculously shows up alive in the morning, she can say that the scum are trying to frame her. Scumtactic #87

actually it has nothing to do with surviving, there is way to much pressure on me to expect to die tonight. You will see come day 3 what that meant as I'm sure I can't just out right say it.

[Graendal-Mafia]

GraenEP I was originally getting a town vibe from you. Your recent posts, however, make me less sure of that.

 

Hmmm lets everyone say what others already said shall we. I don't care what kind of reads you guys got on me. The fact of the matter is I'll get lynched day 3 because I won't be able to actually speak in my defense. There are prices to pay for screwing up, and it won't always be getting replaced. I think that's about as indepth as I can get without breaking a rule.

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

Got it.

[Arez Al'Loke]

Nice one.. I can say that he is lying. Red doesn't give those kinds of restrictions.. She doesn't want to lessen activity in game, she isn't a bloody fool. But she can make it harder to get your point through.

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

EP anything to say to that? I personally wouldn't know about her restrictions.

[Graendal-Mafia]

Oh I didn't say I wouldn't beable to post at all, Arez will see what I mean soon enough. I specifically said speak for a reason.

[Arez Al'Loke]

I have a feeling that we'll suprise eachother xP

[Dashiva-Mafia]

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