Mad Hatter Mafia Tea Party - GAME OVER-Page 94

Graendal-Mafia · July 23, 2008

I think there are precious few facts known here, on the other hand the certainties some people claim makes me wonder... ::)

Arangar-Mafia · July 23, 2008

At the risk of being accused of being agroupie or harem girl, it's clear that there's not gonna be a lycnh on Moggy today. that's cool maybe it really was funky finder readings. If so anyone who got that green(?) bottle should hesitate on jumping on any results you got either inocent or not. the only other person it makes reasonable sense to me for right now is [glow=brown,2,300]Graendal[/glow]

July 23, 2008

Care to explain what you mean Graendal? It's apparent you have something to say.

Also, some people should really pay a lot more attention to what's been posted already.

Rita Skeeter · July 23, 2008

OMG... do you people ever sleep!! LOL.

Well I'll let you all know right now... I've been trying to off Ravi from the start. All the confusion he is causing with all the PMs and stuff really makes thing difficult. No ravi the game does not need to be easy... but you are trying to lead us around by the nose and i don't like it. I'm tired of all the arguing.

I Have not been involved in any PMing...I wonder why no one ever approched me? Ravi why do you think I;'m the Queen? What gave you that thought?

[glow=brown,2,300]Ravi[/glow]

Graendal-Mafia · July 23, 2008

Mesaana, what I mean, is that, while it seems relatively obvious I will not survive terribly long here, being as I am in the centre of things, I will have to go at some point to clear suspicion, there is not very much speaking against me. Why vote for me? If you want to kill someone with a link to this queen, you should choose Rahvin, he is the one allegedly 'protecting her.' I do not know what kind of a functioning mafia there is in this game, but I would not jump to follow a groupie that has planned out who to kill and when, when the same group can then reveal what the roles of these people were afterwards. I will say, if I had some kinds of mafia powers, you would have been one of my first targets, accusing me out of the blue there right in the beginning. No, I think this is a link that would have determined your accusations if you were mafia!

July 23, 2008

I think it's fair to say that nobody likes reading snippets of off thread convo.

I think it's fair to say that there is a lot of confusing info on the playing field now.

I think it's fair to say that asking people to trust any info is asking a lot. There is nothing written that can't be faked. There is no convo that can't be taken out of context.

So right about now, I think I can accurately say that we are as divided as we were on day one, which is to say that the party-goers have made no measurable progress at all.

What we have done is resorted to personal attacks. (I'm not worried about this as much as some - I'll use 'em myself if i know the player is not going to take it the wrong way. For instance, I think that Mynd is playing a spectacular game. Whether it is spectacularly good or spectacularly bad remains to be seen. heh ;D ) We often need to pause for a moment to remind everyone that it is just a game - the insults and finger pointing are designed to make people jump and give themselves away, but there are limits and driving people not to play is never good.

I do know this: In a game where there is no proof - I made it a point to give some. I'll die again if that will help anyone trust me more, it's all I can do. I am restricted from revealing my role PM, but I hold that there would be no point in having a mafia that can't die. And so far, I'm not dead twice....

I did have a nice thing going with the roled players. We made enough progress that the next step would have been to concentrate all of the roles and shorten the time it took to investigate each person. We could have also cross checked the results to determine whose findings were accurate etc.

All was going well. Right up until Rahvin decided he did not like the plan. I was "leading everyone to the slaughter". He made a freakin' sig to make fun of the plan.

And now, we have no plan. We are not working together, and we are back to square one.

For what? To get here?

I've been active in trying to lynch Rahvin. I've done this because he is either a clever mafia and wrecking the plans that I think could have helped us win the game. Or, he is a reckless partygoer, and has still wrecked all of the same plans. He has lied, admitted it, and uses crazy logic to explain it all away. I don't know what else to do but vote against all of that.

Either way, were losing time. I'm in the same spot I've been in the entire game. Just standing here, not dying, able to act as a conduit - although now that most of the players are outed, it does not matter anymore. Ironic, since my plan protected them - but whatever.

My vote stays on [glow=brown,2,300]Rahvin[/glow]. I am happy to help however I can.

July 23, 2008

*knuckles mustaches* Anyone want any more tea? *pours tea and sips it*

July 23, 2008

Why vote for me? If you want to kill someone with a link to this queen, you should choose Rahvin, he is the one allegedly 'protecting her.

Again I will point out that if that were true I would have been effected when I stole his role. Cause like most of you are now, I thought he had a role to deal with the mafia. But I didn't get anything from him.

Rahvin just a suggestion here: Leave the off-thread stuff off thread, or get the person who gave you the information to post it. It may be a little more to advantage.

Everyone: It's apparent to me that none of you have been playing a whole lot to what I've been posting. Unless I post right before you. For me this means that each of you don't care what I say therefor you assume that I'm 'following' someone else's lead. This little error could make a few things fall apart.

Example: That MSN conversation, whoever that was replying to Rahvin didn't bother to point out his mistake, either has anyone else. That there should tell you it wasn't Gtaendal, unless she was playing stupid. (no offense meant)

And another thing: All of you seem pretty set on Rahvin, only because you seemly think his posting is leading to confusion, however it's the game itself that's confusing. And yes I'm defending him because I DO think that's a partygoer and because I know he has no role.

Also Lanfear's little out bursts at the players not in the group with her in Moridin doesn't do much to help remove the confusion. Cause that's how this seems to be working at the moment, Moridin and his group against the "loose links" and whoever the Mafia is.

In conclusion: It's not just Rahvin's fault that people are getting confused. He is roleless. And not everyone is paying attention to the important information that is posted, and to dates as well.

July 23, 2008

Well I'll let you all know right now... I've been trying to off Ravi from the start.

No..really? :P lol 'Twas slightly obvious.

All the confusion he is causing with all the PMs and stuff really makes thing difficult. No ravi the game does not need to be easy... but you are trying to lead us around by the nose and i don't like it. I'm tired of all the arguing.[glow=brown,2,300]Ravi[/glow]

No he isn't. I've talked to him a lot (yes, we do that, and y'know why? 'Cause we're friends, and obviously this game will come into conversation - please don't shout at me for it ;)) and I believe he genuinely is trying to help. Maybe he's not going about it in the way you'd like, but he is trying; he is not trying to cause confusion. When people don't listen, one has to raise one's voice. I saw people ignore his posts and instead yell "you're just trying to confuse us!".. Maybe he lied, but he did so to gain information. Don't have a go at someone for trying to help. ::)

Personifying the confusion and killing it will not help :P

*feels a great need for a thesaurus*

July 23, 2008

[glow=brown,2,300]Graendal[/glow]

Alys Kinch · July 23, 2008

I may be out for the next few days except when I can grab time at work... Changing internet providers. Anyone who spoke to me a few days ago knows why.

July 23, 2008

LOL... Semi. Thanks for the laugh. *snugs*

I still think he is trying to lead us around. He also is not answering any of my questions. *waits for Ravi to answer*

July 23, 2008

LOL... Semi. Thanks for the laugh. *snugs*

I still think he is trying to lead us around. He also is not answering any of my questions. *waits for Ravi to answer*

Hey MorNeph! Sorry, I missed your question among the avalanche. I never ruled you out as a possible mafia, but you were not on my short list of suspects.

If you are referring to the quote below, I was asking Moggy if she was going to use her finder bottle, which turned out to be a Vig bottle, on Mordeth. The quote below is a case of bad juxtaposition in that at this point we were still kicking around theories. I believe in this context, the Queen I was referring to was either Lanny or Moridin. I was also starting to suspect that Moggy was playing me, regarding the whole exploding pumpkin bit with Jelly.

[Quote from: Myndrunner on July 21, 2008, 02:58:25 AM

are you gonna read mordeath...i think we have our Queen....also, jelly denied that she was a bomb character.....what are your thoughts?

Hope this helps, please let me know if I need to clarify further.

July 24, 2008

I wasn't gonna do this at first, but I am going to make one last appeal to those of you who want to win this game for the party goers.

Please. Vote Graendel if you haven't already. I know this game is confusing, and I may have shaken up the place a bit, but I am not a mafia of any sorts. Even Moridin and Lanny know I am innocent, yet they still want me to go down. Why? Because I ask questions. I am just as confused as everyone else here and as onef the newer players to this gathering, have been holding my own against the veterans.

Perhaps that is why Lanny and Moridin have been out to get me. Perhaps there are other reasons, but the facts are still facts, and its time to move forward. Graendel is TO THE QUEEN, not a partygoer, and her lynch tonight will prove this.

Want me to stop ranting and raving? Fine. Want me to stop fishing for info? No Problem. But don't lynch a known partygoer, a revealed role-less party goer by our Role Thief, just because you don't agree with my tactics or you don't like what I have said. We will be going into the night where at least one person is likely to be night killed, probably by a Mafia. Do you want to already be down an innocent at that time, or down one Mafia?

Its your call, and you are all smart enough to make the right decision, but again.....please. Vote the revealed Mafia not the revealed innocent. Do this for yourselves more than anything.

Vote [glow=brown,2,300]Graendel[/glow]

July 24, 2008

I don't know why I (of all people) am doing this, but I'll give your theory a chance. [glow=brown,2,300]Graendal[/glow]

July 24, 2008

Well, thanks Moggy for taking the chance, and I assure you that it will pay off for the party goers. Perhaps others will see the light as well. You gain everything here and risk nothing. When Graendel is revealed for the mafia that she is, it will all be clear.

It seems that all of the Vials in the game don't work 100% of the time, so perhaps there is some reason for your mis-read on Jelly. Let's move this game forward.

July 24, 2008

I do hope you're right about [glow=brown,2,300]Graendal[/glow] Rahvin. When does day end oh great Mod?

July 24, 2008

Actually, I am voting [glow=brown,2,300]Graendal[/glow] because she looks like Tina Yothers!

July 24, 2008

And people just had to post 15pages when I was busy, sheesh.

In case Loki comes back beofre I got time to catch up, I'm voting now for [glow=brown,2,300]Rahvin[/glow] to get a vote down and b/c he switched from Moggy to Graendal and I find that fishy. (Plus he's making everyone avatars except for me *pouts*)

July 24, 2008

If I'm not mistaken:

Current Vote Count:

Rahvin (6) : Moridin, Sahidar Haran, Graendal, Lanfear, Mordeth, Sammael

Graendal (5) : Rahvin, Mesaana, Demandred, Semirhage, Moggy

We need 9 to lynch.

After reading the convo, I'm more than happy keeping my vote on [glow=brown,2,300]Rahvin[/glow].

He may be trying to help but he's doing quite the contrary, jumping to conclusions, not relying on proofs to accuse people and overall, not recognizing his shortcomings; to the point where I'm wondering how can one be genuinely that stubborn.

Let's recap:

1)He comes up on thread screaming Moggy is Mafia. A few pages later, when it turns out he might die while lynching her, he changes target. Turns out she's not that evil anymore, guess his 'proof' just wasn't that solid ::)

2)In the meantime, he keeps going after Lanfear, when, from the 'evidence' he brought, Be'lal was the other stamped 'Vampire'. Why? Because she sent a PM at the same time Moggy did! It'd be fun to point the faulty logic if he hadn't already done the same thing, for the same reasons, a mere days ago. Little boy screaming wolf is getting annoying.

3)When it looks like votes might go his way, he pulls Graendal out of his hat. If you 'knew' she was Mafia (and I suppose you have 'known' for quite a while) why keep silent about it for so long, until it suited you? Innocents do not withhold such important information.

4)He and his cronies have been plotting to kill Moridin when we have no reason not to trust him, and every reason to rely on him to win this game. Valuable reason for doing so? They don't like his way of playing. Bastard's trying to use common sense and logic, he must die.

It seems that people have testified Rahvin is a Partygoer but from his way of playing, he is either a symp or a hindrance.

Either way, we will have a better chance of winning without him so I'm asking people to recast their vote, we don't want to leave our fate up to Loki's die. Again.

July 24, 2008

Oh my gosh! I was just struck by a thunderbolt and realized that Rahvin is brilliant! Everything he says is pure genius!

:P Anyone else find Moggy's post a bit odd? Moggy, would you care to comment? Are you able to comment? Compulsed much?

The innocents are going to lose this game because you people are actually listening to a liar tell you what to do.

So just in case a certain liar had confused anyone:I don't vote for people that I think are partygoers. I do vote for people that are known liars, that are the most likely to be mafia, that crash good plans that will help the innocents win - and I see we had no comment on that. Liar, are you sure you did not want to explain to all the nice people why you did not want my plan to work and why they all had to be revealaed? Unbelievable. - and this is my favorite, someone who depend on friendships outside of the game to manipulate people.

If you look that definition up in the dictionary, it will be under BIG MAFIA LIAR next to Rahvin's picture.

And what's up with the multi-votes? Just in case, here ya go -

[glow=brown,2,300]RAHVIN[/glow] [glow=brown,2,300]RAHVIN[/glow] [glow=brown,2,300]RAHVIN[/glow] [glow=brown,2,300]RAHVIN[/glow] [glow=brown,2,300]RAHVIN [/glow]

This is the craziest thing I've ever seen. You have an admitted liar passing out cups of Kool-Aid, smiling, telling you you to drink it, and because he's "trying to help" and "he's your friend" , you're going to side with him. Get ready for disappointment, the Kool-Aid only does one thing. :-X

Demandred-Mafia · July 24, 2008

If we need nine to lynch I will change my vote to [glow=brown,2,300]Rahvin[/glow]

I hope that you are evil, and we have our first, if not, well that is sad. I still think that what Mesaana said about Graendel is true and we should look at her next.

July 24, 2008

Correction, I had forgotten Aran'gar's vote

Current Vote Count

Rahvin (7) : Moridin, Sahidar Haran, Graendal, Lanfear, Mordeth, Sammael, Demandred

Graendal (5) : Rahvin, Mesaana, Semirhage, Moggy, Aran'Gar

Not Voting(3): Dashiva, Belthamel, Be'lal

We still need 9 to lynch.

ShaidarHaran-Mafia · July 24, 2008

The facts are there for all to see.

The facts I'll rely on are not the ones that come from you. When will you learn how to present and defend an argument?

You harp on about Lanny talking to people off the thread.

People point out that this does not prove a conspiracy (why the hell should it?)

You reiterate the same argument without presenting anything but your (dismissed) evidence. Instead of presenting proof you personally attack the people who disagree and belittle people for 'not reading' because of course if people just read it again it would all make sense.

The evidence against Lanfear: None.

Then the vampire thing comes up. With no context.

Then we get context. I still don't know what to make of this except that you very obviously manipulated the evidence.

You then back off on this.

The evidence against Mog: Her weird finder finding, which is shaky evidence because of vial weirdness.

Then you come out with the Graendal transcipt.

The person in this does not identify themselves as Graendal once

You don't seem to see this as an obstacle.

The evidence against Graendal: Messaana's thief finding on her.

Where there is evidence against the people you are accusing, it doesn't come from your fishing. Your stunts prove nothing. You insist they do. We point out flaws. Apparently this means we are either suspect or not paying attention.

You're not paying attention.

You got a vanilla role. Deal with it. There are ways to contribute to the game without trying to make yourself the center of everything and pouting when people won't play ball.

Or maybe you have been paying attention and you're muddying the waters here because you're mafia or a symp. I don't believe a symp would necessarily have a role to steal. And a godfather need not have special powers apart from appearing innocent, which, it stands to reason, is not a power that can be stolen by an innocent.

Since you're either scum or just playing in a way likely to get us all killed, I'm sticking with [glow=brown,2,300]Rahvin.[/glow]

July 24, 2008

Quite a change of tone, Moridin, don't you think?

*shakes head and wnaders off*

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