Mad Hatter Mafia Tea Party - GAME OVER-Page 94

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

I can honestly say, I don't rememer what my intentions were, but if you think you have a case against me, lets hear it. I'm interested to see exactly what it is you think.

 

Btw, the case about Helima being a 'gulity one' did have SOME supportive evidence. Just BASED on how I read it. But the fact that you're trying to rid me for supporting another player's choice when it appeared he had solid evidence, may prove that you are also hiding something, Moridin. But than again I could be wrong.

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

Ok.....somebody woke up on the wrong side of the Bore this morning.  *steers clear of Lanny until she's had her some tea.*    I'm just not in the mood to be baited into voting you just yet, hun. 

 

Do we still believe Taim to have been Mafia or not?  If there is a coroner, will you please speak up?

 

 

[Balthamel-Mafia]

'twould seem I have a bit of catching up to do... pardon me.

[Belal-Mafia]

He would have also been the most likely target for a vigilante, of which I have heard of at least one player who claims to be one.

 

Who was that? I havent noticed that in the thread at all  ???

 

And I must say I was fairly surprised about the two sudden mod-kills.. Lost us a whole day. which sucks. On that note, when will Shadar Haran come back? He hasnt been here the whole game, and whats the point of having him here if he's going to be LOA the whole game? just asking..

 

I'm not even being sarcastic this time - pretending that people are not talking to each other off of the thread, repeating info without adding anything new to it and acting lost over what is happening are all things that will only help the mafia.

 

with no coroner finder we are better off not spamming the thread with this kind of posting. If we keep the posts to observations and legitimate questions, we should be able to limit the mafia's ability to confuse us or make information harder to find.

 

First off, I didnt pretend that people wasnt talking outside the thread, I simply forgot it as its not something I'm used to in a game, and also oposes. Besides, the way Taim posted it was like someone being a Vig was general knowledge, and not something found in a PM box of some random player. Sorry for being curious as to where he had that info from  ::) I withdraw my question, no need to answer. Apparently you have to be in luck to find out anything in this game. Again, another problem I have with PM communications. I understand its to make the game more exiting or whatever, I just cant like it.

 

And I dont spam this thread at all. If you know me, you would know that I'm not a very big fan of posting spam in games at all. I hardly think you're the one who decides whats spam and not in this game anyways. I can ask whatever I want, as long as I feel its within the limits of the game, and gives me information that I want. So in my opinion, my question was well enough legitimate. You of course have another opinion. Save or file away as you please, but that kind of post can hardly be seen as proof of anything.

 

Anyways, long post about nothing, back to the game..

 

Taims death seems to not be random, but like others have pointed out, it can be either random, or planned. We have no idea what kind of roles might be in this game, it could be a random thing because of some roles or another, or it could be just someone having a grudge or it could be something else. I'm leaning to the "planned by Mafia who could be anyone", but havent discussed it with myself enough yet.

 

[Guest Sammael-Mafia]

Taim's death makes me most suspicious of [glow=blue,2,300]Moridin[/glow]

 

I think he was NK just so that Moridin could be "saved" by pulling out his "I'm being framed" act. It doesn't make sens otherwise:

 

If Taim was Mafia, he wouldn't have risked being lynched that soon in the game when Mafia are usually never targeted. Same goes for the theory of the Mafia NKing their own just to take out one roleless player.

And the Vig theory doesn't make much sense, it would have mean 2 deaths, not

one (one from the Vig, one from the Mafia)

 

Besides, if Moridin was innocent, the best way to have him die would have been to let Taim live (regardless of whether he's innocent or not). Taim would then have pushed for Moridin's lynch, which he wouldn't have been able to fight off due to his PR. And then the next day, Taim would have been lynched.

 

I don't see why the Mafia would have bothered NKing a highly lynchable player if it wasn't to protect one of their own.

 

And Taim, before you start "casing" people, would you mind explaining what was your "plan" when you answered Taim's PM, what did you intend to gain from a supposed symp?

 

My vote will stay like this until I hear some better explanation

 

He would have also been the most likely target for a vigilante, of which I have heard of at least one player who claims to be one.

 

The only thing I know for sure is that I am an innocent partygoer....without a role.

Making hazy allusions like these will also benefit the Mafia, if you got info to share, do it straight forward.

[Belal-Mafia]

So B-Lal, are you suggesting a bandwagon on an inactive? *strokes mustaches*

 

Nope, just wondering out loud how long a player should be allowed to be on LOA without being replaced my the Mod. If I wanted a bandwagon I'd have voted for him because he was inactive, not asked the mod how long he would be away.

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

So B-Lal, are you suggesting a bandwagon on an inactive? *strokes mustaches*

 

Nope, just wondering out loud how long a player should be allowed to be on LOA without being replaced my the Mod. If I wanted a bandwagon I'd have voted for him because he was inactive, not asked the mod how long he would be away.

 

Is he on an actual LOA?  When is he due back?

[Guest Moridin-Mafia]

Actually, Be'Lal, I was not accusing you of all of those things - I see how you read it that way, but I was just pointing out what I thought we could do to avoid helping the mafia.

 

At the moment, Rahvin has his PM evidence theory against you. That's the only accusation you have been charged with.

 

Rahvin has also used the same logic to point at Lanny. Lanny has pointed back at Rahvin.

 

I have accused Messy of supporting Taim.

- Messy, this is based on the fact that very much did not like my method of trying to make Taim slip when I thought he was guilty. You supported him even when I tried to point out that his plan was pre-meditated and based on flimsy evidence.

 

You were not alone on the Halima vote, but you did seem to waver on a few points. You said you hated when players tried to reveal other's alts, and yelled at me about it. When Taim did it, you did not say a thing.  You also supported Taim's points against me, but now that he is dead, you seem to have changed tactics.

 

I'm not certain of anything. That's why I have not voted. What do say to this?

 

I'll work on a response to Sammy.

 

 

 

[loki redfern]

Curent Vote Count

 

[glow=blue,2,300] Moridin (2) - [/glow] Moridin, Sammael

[glow=blue,2,300] Aginor (1) - [/glow] Aginor

[glow=blue,2,300] Aran'gar (1) - [/glow] Aran'gar

[glow=blue,2,300] Balthamel (1) - [/glow] Balthamel

[glow=blue,2,300] Be'lal (1) - [/glow] Be'lal

[glow=blue,2,300] Dashiva (1) - [/glow] Dashiva

[glow=blue,2,300] Demandred (1) - [/glow] Demandred

[glow=blue,2,300] Graendal (1) - [/glow] Graendal

[glow=blue,2,300] Lanfear (1) - [/glow] Lanfear

[glow=blue,2,300] Mesaana (1) - [/glow] Mesaana

[glow=blue,2,300] Moghedien (1) - [/glow] Moghedien

[glow=blue,2,300] Mordeth (1) - [/glow] Mordeth

[glow=blue,2,300] Osan'gar (1) - [/glow] Osan'gar

[glow=blue,2,300] Rahvin (1) - [/glow] Rahvin

[glow=blue,2,300] Semirhage (1) - [/glow] Semirhage

Shadar Haran LOA

 

with 19 alive it takes 12 to lynch

 

[glow=blue,2,300]Blue Glowed Votes only[/glow]

 

Deadline for day three is in 23 hours 35 minutes, Tuesday 18:00 BST (GMT+1)

I have been PMed an LOA and deemed it acceptable. If you wish to vote for persons on an LOA that is also allowed if you so wish.

[Guest Moridin-Mafia]

Taim's death makes me most suspicious of [glow=blue,2,300]Moridin[/glow]

 

I think he was NK just so that Moridin could be "saved" by pulling out his "I'm being framed" act. It doesn't make sens otherwise:

 

If Taim was Mafia, he wouldn't have risked being lynched that soon in the game when Mafia are usually never targeted. Same goes for the theory of the Mafia NKing their own just to take out one roleless player.

And the Vig theory doesn't make much sense, it would have mean 2 deaths, not

one (one from the Vig, one from the Mafia)

 

Besides, if Moridin was innocent, the best way to have him die would have been to let Taim live (regardless of whether he's innocent or not). Taim would then have pushed for Moridin's lynch, which he wouldn't have been able to fight off due to his PR. And then the next day, Taim would have been lynched.

 

This was my entire plan - I was planning on a point by point case against Taim as soon as we went to day and my PR was over. When he was killed, I figured that it was either a vig, or it was the mafia, thinking to get a two for one deal by killing him, framing me, and watching me swing the next day. This is exactly why I am trying to be very clear about everything I am saying today.

 

I don't see why the Mafia would have bothered NKing a highly lynchable player if it wasn't to protect one of their own.

 

And Taim, before you start "casing" people, would you mind explaining what was your "plan" when you answered Taim's PM, what did you intend to gain from a supposed symp?

 

Plain and simple, anyone trying to pull off a plan like that had experience, and actually narrowed the field down to a handful of possible players. Provoking that player to give themselves away might help me to determine what they were up to. My thinking was that only mafia would try to pose as a symp, which is why I teased him (moo), but them pulled back. I was hoping that he would come back and press the issue with PM's - which I was obviously collecting to post, which I did.  I was actually surprised that no one else tried to get info out of him. I was also surprised that anyone believed him when he said he had discovered two mafia so early in the game.

 

 

[Lanfear-Mafia]

At the moment, Rahvin has his PM evidence theory against you. That's the only accusation you have been charged with.

 

Rahvin has also used the same logic to point at Lanny. Lanny has pointed back at Rahvin.

 

Not sure i understood this correctly.

 

 

also, there is an active (sort of) vig. players are not guaranteed a definate hit, but they are given a chance for a night.

 

i am wondering why others have not said anything about this. there is no restriction and information is good. so... who else has been visited by postman pat? who has accepted? who was too scared? is there another vial to drink from?

 

 

 

BTW, as an aside, my current approach to this game is that since we can talk out of thread, the mafia may not know each other. it feels right to me, whether it's true or not. anyone else have thoughts on this?

 

and before i forget, i meant to [glow=blue,2,300]vote rahvin[/glow].

[Arangar-Mafia]

I got a vial it wasn't vig powers though.

[Lanfear-Mafia]

Ok.....somebody woke up on the wrong side of the Bore this morning.  *steers clear of Lanny until she's had her some tea.*    I'm just not in the mood to be baited into voting you just yet, hun. 

 

Do we still believe Taim to have been Mafia or not?  If there is a coroner, will you please speak up?

 

rahvin, did you pass me the vial?? i need to know on your next visit.

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

We are gonna need to clinch this lynch, gang....and according to the Hatter's post, thats 12 votes.  Otherwise, we get the dice toss and I don't wanna risk another innocent going down.  I am gonna side with the person who gives the most convincing argument of why they are voting.

 

Heck, if Lanny can produce a convincing enough case against me, I'll vote myself.....I say this because I know she cannot.  I passed no vials, milady. 

 

 

The only thing I know for sure is that I am an innocent partygoer....without a role.

Making hazy allusions like these will also benefit the Mafia, if you got info to share, do it straight forward.

 

Oh, and Sammy....I know that scar from Lews has slowed you down a bit, so here....let me try to be more clear than my last post....

 

I R NOT MAFIA.

[Belal-Mafia]

I got a vial too. Got to view ONE peron for ONE night. Sammael is a Partygoer. At least for now.

[Guest Sammael-Mafia]

Could you explain this story about vials and postmen?

Is it related to the thief? How and what do you know about the Vig?

Bear in mind that not all of us received these PMs so if you could make things clear...

 

And Rahvin: I never said you were but you make such a good argument with these capital letters...  ::)

So what was your role?

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

I am a partygoer who had his role stolen last night...which means I am a roleless partygoer without a role, just like Taim quoted earlier.

 

Anyone else get a message like this?

[Lanfear-Mafia]

rahvin, if you didn't pass it along, how did you know, upon the opening of the day, before i had even posted, that i needed to drink some "tea"? i doubt the coincidence.

 

you had also alluded to the drinking of vials in a pm. what's it all about? what do you know? would you rather give me that info in a pm rather than on thread?

 

three things i know. the vials are very important. the people i asked about are very important. people are not sharing enough info.

[Lanfear-Mafia]

again with the vials. people, we need to know how many vials, and of what type, there are.

[Belal-Mafia]

No, I got offered a vial of somtething to drink, and since its not really any much fun being roleless, I was hoping that was what I was getting. It only lasted one night tho.

 

So to sum it up, I got a vial with some red stuff, drank it, and became a Seer for one night only.

 

 

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

rahvin, if you didn't pass it along, how did you know, upon the opening of the day, before i had even posted, that i needed to drink some "tea"? i doubt the coincidence.

 

Cause this is a tea party?

 

The only DRINK ME vial I got was a Vigilante vial that I got, but because someone else had mind control voodoo on me, I couldn't use it.  What a waste...anyways, that has been the only time I have had a visit from Postman Pat.

 

Oh, Postman Pat?  I have a plate of cookies and a bottle of Captain Mo for ya if you come back!

[Arangar-Mafia]

Your's was red you say?  hmm that doesn't line up with what others have said

 

[Lanfear-Mafia]

so, if you get a vial, drink it?

so far we have a

 

vig vial

a seer vial

aran'gar's vial

possibly a healer vial

 

can anyone confirm anything else? i feel this is the way to know what's going on.

 

i also have another hunch... if i can get more info, i will share it.

 

my vial was red, thick as blood, and made blue and green spots dance before my eyes.

[Guest Sammael-Mafia]

*starts to resent the PM talk*

 

I'll come back tomorrow, hope things will be clearer by then

[Belal-Mafia]

Dammit sorry.. had to check my PM again..  >< it was Green and made red and blue spots dance before my eyes.

 

Seems there's some meaning with the colours.

 

Resent it as much as you like Sammael, but something good came out of it for you. I did view you as innocent after all.