Game Over - Insane Mafia Game. Page 94

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

 

As a matter of a fact I find that kind of strange and to me it seems suspicious that you would just go ahead and do that just for a joke.  Not enough to make me think of you as evil but something that caught my eye none the less.  You are definitely on my list as of now.

 

You missed the accidental reveal that Barm did. If you knew who I was, it might not strike you so odd. Unless you haven't interacted with me.

[Belal-Mafia]

It doesn't matter why Semi died, the important thing is whether there is another healer out there or not, I am inclined to believe so on the basis that there must be atleast one real healer out there which Vemy in one way or another clearly was not.

 

We have to remeber that Orsan'gar may of been a/the cop, in which case we MAY be both screwed and copless. Just something to keep in mind.

 

BTW Be'lal, assuming only 1 NK on the first night is a VERY big assumption...

 

yeah, with the "poison healer" thought shot to bits, it looks like there were two  :o

 

I'm all out of ideas, to be honest - lets lynch someone, gather information, and see what we can make of it.  I happen to be drawing connections between Mesaana, Sammael and Ishamael - and you, Balthamel, to a lesser extent (of connectedness, not suspisciousness), so one of those is my best bet for "most information".  I'm pretty much resigned to being "most suspicious", so if anyone thinks they can draw any conclusions from my guilty/innocent result, I should probably go.  :-\

[Belal-Mafia]

 

As a matter of a fact I find that kind of strange and to me it seems suspicious that you would just go ahead and do that just for a joke.  Not enough to make me think of you as evil but something that caught my eye none the less.  You are definitely on my list as of now.

 

You missed the accidental reveal that Barm did. If you knew who I was, it might not strike you so odd. Unless you haven't interacted with me.

 

I missed the reveal, but I know who you are.  And several of the others as well.

[Graendal-Mafia]

[glow=red,2,300]Aginor[/glow]

 

You have randomly been selected by me. Please provide a good explanation why you are not evil. Should you satisfy me, I will remove my vote from you.

[Barmacral]

Vote Count:

 

Be’lal (4): Balthamel, Sammael, Ishamael, Aginor

Mesaana (1): Be’lal

Demandred (2): Mesaana, Asmodean

Aginor (1): Graendal

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

I know who all but 6 of you are. That makes my life fun.

 

Graendal, what prompts your sudden foray into the foreground?

[Guest Moridin-Mafia]

I'm not really devoting any energy to figuring out who is who, although a few things have jumped out at me. Neither am I particularly concerned about hiding who I am. Just don't anyone give the game away if you think you know, because I will neither confirm or deny.

 

I think I'll give Bel'al a few days to drop dead of his own accord, after which I'll re-examine the case against him.

 

And Barm, why is Mesaana in two places on your vote count?

[Barmacral]

That's cause Mesaana is such an awesome player that she's really worth 2 of the rest of you.

 

Seriously? Because I completely missed her sammy vote when I added her Demmy one, its gone now.

[Graendal-Mafia]

Good question, I guess mostly because it was a random thing to do. Is there ever a better reason?

[Guest Moghedien-Mafia]

There probably should be but that's up to you. It is a long way out of character for the game you have been playing.

[Guest Moridin-Mafia]

[glow=red,2,300]Mesaana[/glow]

 

Has consistently made little sense in her actions for most of the game. Also, she voted for Sammael early today then shortly after went offline for twelve hours, during which time Bel'al suggested it could be an innoculation vote. Upon returning she at first defended her vote on Sammael, giving her theory that he was the sniper, which she based on the fact that he was for lynching Semi, and also that he was active.

However, it doesn't take her long to switch her vote to Demandred, and hasn't, as far as I've seen, given any reason beyond that he was annoying her. Why construct a case on someone and then switch to someone else based on nothing at all? Spooked by something? Maybe trying to get out of the Sammael vote before other people pile on and leaving would look too suspicious?

[Aginor-Mafia]

Explain to you why I'm not evil?

Well if that isn't the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my entire life.

Because...I'm not.

It's not like I've contributed very much to the thread, and so I can't back myself up with some proof from previous posts and shove them back in your face.  Picking a person at 'random'(Who hasn't had enough posting to give much evidence back to you), voting for them, and threatening not to take the vote away unless they give you a good reason, doesn't exactly seem like a random, or a very innocent thing to do, personally. 

In all honesty, your asking everyone to name their top two candidates of the mafia, and explaining why? that doesn't seem to be a very innocent thing to be doing either. I mean, if you think about it, like a mobster would be doing, if there is a popular choice of the mafia, who happens to be innocent, all the mafia would have to do is nightkill the person that first suggested that the top candidate for mafianess.  Was that your plan allll along? Go for the quiet ones, seems to be a general rule in mafia games, well, you picked on a quiet one that didn't suspect you a single bit, and turned him into a suspicious one that suspects you a whooollleee bit.

[glow=red,2,300]Unvote[/glow] my vote for Be'lal.

I'm giving you a chance to respond, before I vote for you Graendal.

 

[GoodGrief]

Oh my, this is all very interesting! *runs through the thread in a 1920s bathing suit throwing jellybeans about and singing sea shanties*

[Lanfear-Mafia]

Ok, I'm having a hard time figuring out where to place my vote.  So many of the arguments for and against Be'lal can either be truth or misdirection, and the same goes for just about any of the more prominent candidates.  When that happens, I can only fall back on what I know.  In this case, it's to vote for an inactive player, or one who hasn't posted as much as expected.  If something else happens and an excellent candidate steps forth (or is pushed by circumstance) then I'll change my vote, but until then I'm going to vote for [glow=red,2,300]Aran'gar[/glow].

[Lanfear-Mafia]

Oh, and in regard to the SemiVemy/healer situation, I'm inclined to treat it as truth, albeit with a fair amount of scepticism.  If I do that, and go on the assumption that we're either one healer down or without a healer, then that's better than assuming that our important people will be protected during the night, and possibly making a mistake by doing so.  Not that I think anyone else will - I was talking more about myself.  Typing it out helps to remind me.

 

I also tend to favour the sniper/assassin theory, and if that's the case have they now used up their "one chance", although the thought that there's a different role out there with abilities like that concerns me.

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

Page 41:

Balthamel:

BTW Be'lal, assuming only 1 NK on the first night is a VERY big assumption...

You're quite late with this statement.

 

same post:

It doesn't matter why Semi died, the important thing is whether there is another healer out there or not, I am inclined to believe so on the basis that there must be atleast one real healer out there which Vemy in one way or another clearly was not.

And why would Vemy have been lying? Unless he was symp ánd healer, which I don't believe.

 

Page 42:

Demandred:

He was either lying or he wasn't.

He was innocent, so he was either a normal healer, or a symp. I don't see any other possibilities.

 

Moghedien:

Methinks some people really regret talking to me.

I wanna talks to you. Come here and cry it all out.

 

Page 43:

Moridin:

then shortly after went offline for twelve hours

Like I said, i've got those stupid working hours this week. This won't be happening next week.

 

same post:

Mesaana

 

Has consistently made little sense in her actions for most of the game. Also, she voted for Sammael early today then shortly after went offline for twelve hours, during which time Bel'al suggested it could be an innoculation vote. Upon returning she at first defended her vote on Sammael, giving her theory that he was the sniper, which she based on the fact that he was for lynching Semi, and also that he was active.

However, it doesn't take her long to switch her vote to Demandred, and hasn't, as far as I've seen, given any reason beyond that he was annoying her. Why construct a case on someone and then switch to someone else based on nothing at all? Spooked by something? Maybe trying to get out of the Sammael vote before other people pile on and leaving would look too suspicious?

 

I voted for Sammy on very small reasoning (unless you find that a solid case (my case was, truth be told, quite the opposite of what you suggest here), in which case I'll gladly rechange my vote), so I was looking for anything suspicious. And Demi gave it to me. Like I said, he tried to pull attention back on me in the negative sense. And I have been stupid enough to cooperate. And I wanna have my vote on someone.

Other people have mad much less fundamented votes (Graendal and Asmo, just to name the last 2)

 

And now some quotes I wholehartedly agree with:

 

Halima:

I would also be happy if people would let the whole spam thing drop.  I don't want to read about how spamming is good or bad anymore.  Spam if you want and ignore it if you don't want to.

 

Oh and by the way I hate you Barm lolz.

 

Barmy:

That's cause Mesaana is such an awesome player that she's really worth 2 of the rest of you.

 

Lanfear:

I also tend to favour the sniper/assassin theory, and if that's the case have they now used up their "one chance", although the thought that there's a different role out there with abilities like that concerns me.

 

And the votecount:

 

Be’lal (3): Balthamel, Sammael, Ishamael

Mesaana (2): Be’lal, Moridin

Demandred (2): Mesaana, Asmodean

Aginor (1): Graendal

Aran'gar (1): Lanfear

 

Anyone knows how many votes are needed for a kill?

[Guest Moridin-Mafia]

Never said it was suspicious that you went off for twelve hours. I've been known to do it myself. Just that when you come back to a suggestion of innoculation voting you jump off Sammael, which looks like you were doing so before anyone else could jump on him to test the theory.

And it sure sounded like you were voting Sammael for those reasons. But now that I go back and look I'm not sure what you were about with voting Sammael. You mention that you were sure the sniper would be quite active, so ... you voted for Sammael because he was rather inactive? [glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow] I'm just too tired to deal with this level of incoherence. You just explain yourself again and I'll come back with some coffee.

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

Okay I'm trying to do a reread, and so far it has taken me 4 hours. (well I'm trying to work at the same time, so this is a long so progress and I don't know if it's helping me or not.

 

I did have a thought when reading about the theories of how Semi and Osan'ger died.

 

Could it be possible that because we went for a no lynch, the mod had something written into his script that if we did not lynch then he would mod kill over night to even things back up. It would make sense, that way if Semi healed herself then I doubt it would have healed a Mod kill. The person killed could have been randomly chosen or from those voted the day before, who had the highest number of votes. The evils then night killed Osan'ger.

 

That just seemed a lot more simple than some of the theories I've been reredaing that was all.

 

Back to the reading, my eyes are hurting.

[Lanfear-Mafia]

It's certainly possible that because of the no kill, there were other consequences.  Right now, I'm operating under the impression that anything is possible in this game.  I think I need to do a reread, too.

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

Well I've managed a reread, and am confused as hell.

 

I still have the feeling Be'lal is innocent, can't explain why and I hope I'm right, knowing who he is. I'm still looking at those who jumped on the No Vote bandwagon, becasue I think that is a good place for an evil or two to hide. Of course they would have loved a no lynch, but it would be dangerous for them to start going down that road.

 

So that gives us:

Graendal, Osan'gar (NK),Semi (NK) , moggie, Halima, Lanfear, Asmo, Messaana, Aginor.

 

There are probably a couple that didn't vote there to. Tha leaves

 

Ishy - voted Be'lal

Moridin - voted Asmo

Demi - voted Semi

 

Not voting Balth, Sammael, Rahvin, Asan'gar, Cyndane

 

(hope thats right)

 

People that stood out were, Demandred, why keep your vote on someone, that claimed healer, and we could at least check out alignment of, Even if Semi was a symp, she counts as an innocent in the total count against the evils, and she was going to be checked out.

 

Aginor, also stood out as, he votes for the No Vote then later says that he believes they should have taken out Be'lal yesterday, when he actually voted to go to night with no lynch.

 

Moridin changes his mind as many times as Madonna changes her image. He accuses Mesaana of taken her vote off Sammy incase that started a lynch on him, well no one seemed interested in voting for him, so that seems an odd observation.

 

Out of those three at the moment I will go with [glow=red,2,300]Aginor[/glow]

[Guest Sammael-Mafia]

I've been doing a reread most of the morning trying to see if anyone else strikes me as Mafia. At the moment I'm leaving my vote on Be'lal just because I really don't trust him too much from yesterday's no kill.

 

Also on a side note I'm going away this weekend on a last minute suprised vacation. I won't be anywhere near a computer until I get home late Sunday night.

[Graendal-Mafia]

Explain to you why I'm not evil?

Well if that isn't the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my entire life.

Because...I'm not.

It's not like I've contributed very much to the thread, and so I can't back myself up with some proof from previous posts and shove them back in your face.  Picking a person at 'random'(Who hasn't had enough posting to give much evidence back to you), voting for them, and threatening not to take the vote away unless they give you a good reason, doesn't exactly seem like a random, or a very innocent thing to do, personally. 

In all honesty, your asking everyone to name their top two candidates of the mafia, and explaining why? that doesn't seem to be a very innocent thing to be doing either. I mean, if you think about it, like a mobster would be doing, if there is a popular choice of the mafia, who happens to be innocent, all the mafia would have to do is nightkill the person that first suggested that the top candidate for mafianess.  Was that your plan allll along? Go for the quiet ones, seems to be a general rule in mafia games, well, you picked on a quiet one that didn't suspect you a single bit, and turned him into a suspicious one that suspects you a whooollleee bit.

[glow=red,2,300]Unvote[/glow] my vote for Be'lal.

I'm giving you a chance to respond, before I vote for you Graendal.

 

 

well, Rahvin seems to think he have enough on you to vote for you. doesnt mean I think I do, but then, I dont really have enough to not vote for you either. but i'll [glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow] for now. but only because I dont have time to think atm..

[Arangar-Mafia]

Well I haven't been very active because if you knew who I was you'd know that's just how I play... if I see something significant to reply to I do.  Otherwise I observe alot.  I'm not very good at the reviews and big posts explaining my theories on things.  I admire those who can do that.  I said yesterday I wondered about Be'lal and I still can't decide if he really was as in the dark about the concequences of a nokill day or if it was a trick. 

[Lanfear-Mafia]

I wondered if that might not be the case.  That's the problem with the early stages of the game - there's very little information to go on, especially since we can't be sure of what roles there are and since roles haven't been revealed on death - so making an informed decision is difficult.  Well it is for me, anyway.

 

As I said, though, I don't mind changing my vote, if we can get something definite.  All I can safely say at the moment is that we're unsure of the consequences of the no lynch, and that we're down two innocents with nothing but guesses as to why.  Everyone looks suspicious to me in this game.

[Demandred-Mafia]

People that stood out were, Demandred, why keep your vote on someone, that claimed healer, and we could at least check out alignment of, Even if Semi was a symp, she counts as an innocent in the total count against the evils, and she was going to be checked out.

 

You must have missed my saying so in your reread, Rahvin. **---I am not the person who started as Demandred in this game. I am someone else, because the original Demmy had to bow out. I stepped in during Day 2. So anything written prior to Day 2--was not me. Barmy can confirm this, if you need it.---** Entirely different person, entirely different playing style, I would not have done what Demandred did Day 1.

 

For myself, I'm holding my vote. I don't have (or haven't seen) enough condemning information to place a vote on anyone at this moment, and I'm not a fan of jumping the gun.