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Jillain Sanche

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  1. Ah, Jordan left us so much to think about and imagine! I am glad even for the little tidbits Brandon has related, such as where was Dobraine etc. Is there some article or press release about the Encyclopedia to come anywhere? I have seen a couple of references so far but no more.
  2. But you aren't leaving us, right? You'll still be in the mix?
  3. That's great news. Might we move this thread up in status to become a permanent thread for reports from those lucky members who might get to visit and view the collection? Or, hopefully, eventually Jordan scholars studying his papers??
  4. Imho, Jordan was WAY more influenced by his life and his experiences in Viet Nam. And every Viet Nam veteran I know (and I am married to one) points out so many things that they recognize, in Jordan's books, that relate to things they learned from their experiences. I am of Tsalagi descent, and I call jackson "the Hitler of the Trail of Tears". So sick of looking at his big head on the 20, Dude. We need an overhaul of the $20 bill. Like why not have Harriet Tubman on the 20?
  5. There have been loads of references to Avi contemplating laying the marriage bouquet, or whatever Aiel call it, at Rand's feet. Seems really likely to me that she will and perhaps soon, might be on the eve of the next battle? Interesting post. The more rereads, the more we pick up the many many clues. I dunno about the bodyswap thing? A year from now we'll know ALL!
  6. Not so interested in the born-to entitlement of a spoiled princess, fighting to consolidate her power and control, trained to see everyone in geographic boundaries as her subjects. Andor shmandor, eh! The Aes Sedai clearly must be recreated as a whole, women AND men, surgically slicing out what were negative practices and attitudes of the White Tower (not just the Black Ajah). Seems like Rand's and Egwene's political arcs are heading toward recreating the order more in line with historical purpose, although they've been working separate sides of the equation and hardly communicating at all. I think their arcs will dovetail, and bring the yin yang thing whole again!
  7. Totally agree with afog0ats above. Beyond liking good guys and despising bad guys, following the arcs as the young people mature amidst danger, I cannot like Elayne, nor Morgase. And it is the entitlement, the absolute attitude of supremacy toward Perrin, and Mat, based on claiming land too far away to do more than try to steal taxes. When did they ever do anything for the Two Rivers? And seriously, the Elayne Rand relationship seems to be wholly based on first crush attraction and hormones. Where's the friendship? The getting to know you part was all her giving advice on being a monarch. Gawyn seems to maybe getting a clue. And Galad gets smarter. But the Trakand heiresses arrghh. I hate them.
  8. It is indeed common to hear not only women jest among themselves about men, which might often be characterized as fond complaints. Yet far more appalling, indeed hateful, is what is too often said by many men to each other about women in the most negative and objectifying sense. That is the truth of our society, though I would give credit where it is due to men of higher consciousness than a chauvinist. And credit to some women and men who have raised their children to have respect for others and self respect. Those who complain about WoT women to excess seem to be either so young as to have little experience of actual societal relations in all their contradictions and variayions, but there are some fewer here who may be chauvinist themselves and have trouble with the tables being turned. Live and learn. Live and learn.
  9. I agree with Cindy and Doodoo. And wonder that some males get what RJ did with his world and that others just seem to react quite uncomfortably to strong women. I would rather have the types that fit the former category for friends! As a woman I could never stand it when a sister won't stand up for herself; but I really hate arrogant men.
  10. In addition to herid's astute argument, which is clearly true, there is also a further observation or foretelling by Min, and which remains a mystery so far to us all. That is her seeing that "Alivia will help him die." How will she do this? When will the event transpire? To what effect? Will it be a physical death? Or will it be a near-death experience? We just don't know, yet. (But as noted by herid, Christianity as such has nothing to do with it.) If Nynaeve rips him from TAR, that would in essence be to reincarnate him (which more of an Eastern religious concept, pertaining to Hinduism and its close philosophical kin), as happened to Birgitte.
  11. Robert Jordan will surprise us, somehow, once again. Yet the other day I was reminded of the prophecy of the three women in the boat passage. I was watching the end of the movie "Excalibur" (1981?), which I originally saw at the Strand in San Francisco when it was released, and at the end after one of Arthur's knights (I missed which one, madly) was convinced by the wounded or dying king to give the sword back to the lady in the lake, and after having done so he returns to find Arthur gone. Then the scene shifts to show a boat going out (to sea?) with a body laid on a bier and, yes, three women standing with Arthur's body. My curiousity is piqued; now I will have to read Mallory's Morte d'Arthur to catch what homage Jordan must have paid it. At any rate, I fully expect there to be a scene with the three women (whether or not they are Aviendha, Min and Elayne or some variation whereof and wherefore) involved. I fully expect Jordan to surprise us! Yet, the idea of Nynaeve ripping him out of Tel'aranrhiod has occurred to me. Ah, the fine sweet expectation of waiting to RAFO, eh?
  12. Jason, I would bet my bottom dollar that Jordan read "On Fairy Stories" himself back when it was first published in the U.S., in the late 1960s, included in the compilation by Ballantine Books: The Tolkien Reader. It's KoD Chpt 4 actually.Tylee after noting Perrin's eyes and hammer she recites...."When the Wolf King carries the hammer, thus are the final days known. When the fox marries the raven, and the trumpets of battle are blown" So, "the trumpets of battle are blown". QUESTION to ALL: Is this bit of prophecy a Metaphor? Or might it be a reference to Matrim blowing the Horn of Valere?
  13. I have the original, which I heartily recommend to you, Canis for Lin Carter's essay on the history of fantasy. Also, in the main work concerning The Lord of the Rings and J.R.R. Tolkien, Carter's comments on the as-then-yet-unpublished Silmarillion are interesting. It's not too hard to find a copy still. It is a paperback book published by Ballantine Books. I am not sure that the reprint has everything from the original in any event. (And, yes, Alfred, Lord Dunsany. Very funny short stories with gloriously descriptive prose.)
  14. so we are waiting on trumpets . . . Thanks, Finssss!
  15. one word: BRILLIANT!!! Now, who is out there with their copies to hand of TGS, I believe it was there you will find Tylee or some Seanchan remarking on the reference from their own version of the prophecies concerning the Wolf King and a hammer. Someone be a dear and look it up for us?
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