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Pevin

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  1. It's in the beginning of chapter 56 "Goldeneyes" in _The Shadow Rising_.
  2. If the rumors about Gitara wanting Luc to go north are true, I have always assumed it had something to do with killing Rand's father Janduin. Even though that happens after Rand has already been found by Tam, I still think it is crucial to have him out of the way. If Janduin had survived, he may have gone looking for Rand or still been around when Rand came to the waste. Either way could have caused problems for Rand to fulfill his destiny. That is the best I've come up with.
  3. I could be way off base here, but I always thought that Moiraine passed her bond off purposefully when she went through the doorway. She knew that she was going to be in a situation where Lan could not help her and she wanted Nynaeve to have him. Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that Accepted who were found to have bonded a warder were forced to pass them off to an Aes Sedai? That's what gave me the idea that Moiraine relinquished the bond in some way.
  4. I agree with your main point, reyler. My best guess is also that it was not a trap at all. Ishamael seems to want (need??) the Dragon around, so he is helping him to fulfill his destiny.
  5. I just decided to brave this forum, so I read three of the 129 pages (!!!) and then voted--Aviendha did it. :shock:
  6. I too like Seanchan the best and then the Aiel, but by the wording of the question I assumed that you were just asking about the Randland nations in the mainland. So I voted Shienar because they seem to have the most honor out of the choices available. For the most part, they live and die by their convictions, which I find refreshing and comforting.
  7. I've always thought that the Taim=bad and Logain=good situation is a little too...simplistic and straight forward for Jordan. I don't have any proof for it, but I'd at least like to see those expectations become more complicated. About a year ago, I suggested that Logain might turn out to be Demandred, but that idea got blasted out of the water. But I wouldn't mind seeing a twist like that.
  8. Luckers, you certainly have a well thought out plan that I admit could happen, but if I were calling the Seanchan shots, I wouldn't attack the tower at this juncture--for many reasons. Of course, I'm not calling the shots (or writing the books).
  9. As I've said in other threads discussing the same topic, I also think attacking the White Tower doesn't make good tactical sense for the Seanchan at this point. Instead of repeating my reasons, though, I'm just going to throw out two new comments. I don't think it will be as easy as some people think for the Seanchan to sneak in. Both the rebels and the tower Aes Sedai should be holding quite a vigilant guard. It seems to me that 1,000 to'raken would have a hard time sneaking past two armies that are expecting battle.
  10. Well Luckers, I certainly understand your arguments, but I just don't think that the Seanchan are going to attack the White Tower. They might, but I don't see it happening. I don't think you are understanding my point here. We seem to be confusing the terms. "Protagonist" does not equal "good," nor does "antagonist" equal "bad." When I say protagonist I mean a main character of the story. When I say antagonist, I mean a character that opposes or causes problems for a protagonist. My point is that the Seanchan have been evolving from antagonists into protagonists. As a
  11. **the formatting was a bit confusing on this, so I bolded my responses to your responses to my original post :? ** They have had a lot of time. Indications are that they have been planning this since shortly after taking Altara. By now they are likely just getting all the raken and to'raken together, and then they'll be off. I agree that they have been planning and preparing, but that got interrupted by Itulrade's rebellion and "that little mess in the north" (Mat's escape). The raken are all in transit back to Altara and Amadica as per Galgan's orders at the end of KOD.
  12. I think I am missing something here, or severly underestimating Seanchan forces. In the west (Tarabon, Almoth Plain, Arad Domon) they have a huge army trapped by Itulrade in Arad Domon, and their airsupport was just ordered to return to Amadica/Altara. I would presume Turan's force in Arad Domon would be the bulk of what they have in the west, and Itulrade raids should have caused a significant amount of damage/disruption. Maybe damane will save their hides, but it seems to me the west is in bad shape for the Seanchan. In the South, They have at least three armies (I'm guessing).
  13. That's fine that you want quotes, I would too. As I said though, my books are packed up for the next few days. SO LOOK FOR YOURSELF IN TDR CHAPTER 3 AND THE PROLOGUE OF COT! Let us know if those groups were called dragonsworn or not after you look it up. I agree that the particular term of "dragonsworn" seems to be reserved for the less organized, less law-abiding fanatics, but there are more of those groups than just Masema's. Even though that term seems to be a bit derogatory, I would argue that it could be applied to anyone who has sworn allegiance to Rand, for example The L
  14. I'm going with experience on this one, which narrowed it down to Lan or Rhuarc. I ended up voting for Rhuarc because I think he would be the best at putting emotion aside and getting down to the business at hand. Plus he has nothing to live for anyway--life is just a dream that everyone must wake from--whereas Lan as become enmeshed by love. Skill wise, Lan and Rhuarc are probably about equal, but I think Rhuarc has the mental/emotional advantage. Plus Rhuarc has probably done more fighting since Lan has spent so much of his life following Moirane around.
  15. Unfortunately I just began a 5000+ mile relocation today, so my books are packed away (and will be for the next few days). But I looked at some of the online resources. Check out this website and see if their references about dragonsworn are correct. I was wrong on one thing--it's The Dragon Reborn NOT The Great Hunt where Rand is camped in the mountains. http://encyclopaedia-wot.org:8008/organizations/dragonsworn.html I would first check TDR chap 3. Then the prologue of COT.
  16. Honestly, I hadn't even thought of the bonding/compelling option. That would certainly be a good idea, except for the effects the "bonder" would feel after she is executed, which would still be high up on my priority list for things to do with a Forsaken. I don't think there are all that many darkfriend channelers with Rand, so circles of 13 should be fairly safe. Even if there are a bunch, would they know each other and be able to act together? And I would only put Aes Sedai in control of the circles who I totally trusted--probably only the group who swore to obey Rand--the ones Min sa
  17. Oops--yeah, I did mean Semirhage, thanks!
  18. I've been really annoyed at how the "light" characters treat the Black Ajah and Forsaken they encounter/capture. They don't take it nearly seriously enough. Granted, we never saw exactly how Moirane treated the one (??) they capture in the Stone of Tear or how Adelas and Vandene treat the one they capture in _Crown of Swords_. As far as I'm concered, everyone we have seen in control of captured darkfriends have been extraordinarily foolish. So what should Rand do with Mesanna? For starters, he shouldn't have anything to do with the incarceration/questioning because he is such a wimp to
  19. You make a good point. It does take a concerted effort to destroy a language. Mainly I just wanted to point out that it is possible and has happened. But like I prefaced my last post, we really need more information as to when the common tongue came into use in Randland. Certainly Arthur Hawkwing's empire could have subdued languages, as well as the AOL governments. Maybe it was during the AOL that everyone was brought under one language--the old tongue, and, as someone else already pointed out, the common tongue just evolved from that everywhere together. Or maybe there has always
  20. I don't think we'll be able to get a definitive answer to this question without more information, but I would like to contibute two points to the conversation. #1 Randland seems quite small in comparison to our earth. I think Perrin said it would take two weeks to ride from Tear to Emond's Field (in TSR), which looks like a significant chunk of the length of Randland. I have no idea how far a horse can ride in a day, but if we assume 100 miles and ten days a week (aren't there ten days/week in Randland??), that's 2000 miles. Judging distances from the map, that would make Randland about
  21. The Seanchan. I love how organized and efficient they are. A place for everything and everything in its place. Plus they don't seem to let their emotions run them. They seem to do whatever it takes to accomplish a task without letting emotions (or anything else for that matter) distract them. Tuon is a bit of an exception on that one, but she is still a lot more in control of herself than most of the major characters (i.e. Elayne, Rand, Perrin, Egwene).
  22. I don't think there are any darkfriends in Mat or Perrin's groups. Why?? In KOD (the end of chapter 3) Moridin orders the forsaken to not kill Rand, but to kill Mat and Perrin. Soon after that, we saw attempts to kill both of them after some random person freaks out over seeing them (Perrin in the Seanchan city and Mat in the "hell"). Both of those darkfriends showed considerable surprise over seeing Mat and Perrin. I think that means none of the bad guys knew where they were. If there are any darkfriends attached to Mat and Perrin, then someone is most likely disobeying orders
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