her claim

She was implying she never announced before that person died like Gud did. Gud in the game before Dice's death said she sent him a package and that was later confirmed and verified he claim as cop.

Believe me, I'm loathe to stick up for Ithi at this point. She she said she parceled to Dice after he was revealed. There was no CC to dispute she had it night 0. I don't think the role is alignment indicative but you are incorrect here. Heavy flailing wildly.

Not really wanting to engage with Ithi. But I thought it was a pass around role and IMO much more town confirming than a PA role.

Ok. re-reading that is gibberish....my god my train of thought outpaces my typing/logic. Who had the role and passed it to SD last night? Night 1 right. They should have gotten results on Night 0's death. Day 2 today, they should have said...so and so killed orginal Darthe. Why wouldnt they? Ok, Ithi posted the role rule..while typing this. Then why wouldn't SD say it? Seems easy to me? No, Darthe, I didnt have DA first night.

This means SD was passed the DNA analyst role right and he died with it. Someone knows who killed Darthe Night 0 and hasn't spoken up. Well...don't know it now and refute me during the day phase if you want but if you kept this quiet that leads more to me conclusion that night 0 roles are not alignment indicative. Why else keep that info silent in a game like this?

Ed made it 5. I was on for for awhile. I unvoted so I could finish catching up with todays stuff. I am only 5 because I revoted.

i guess we do now.

Do you know its a hammer? You know you were at 5 votes for awhile right?

This. UNVOTE

The level of condescension you display is just more proof of my opinion of your tactics.

VOTE SD

allright..late night and early morning (god you guys are active early( stuff). Lots of activity discussing bus driver stuff. Darthe laying out the two places settings and people while not denying his claim choosing to vote or case the two people other that whats on the plate. I mean c'mon. Turin and SD. If you arent casing those two guys wtf are you doing? Even If I'm someone you think is scummy (heavy and ithi) you should be spending your energy cases both these guys. If I'm so in the bag, insta lynch me tomorrow or the day after if I'm still around. /sheesh It's distracting. of the two between SD and Turin I think Turin has done the more pro town actions. Laid out clear reasoning. Both have brought up bus driver...which is pinging me in a weird way. I'm not sure if that is a pro or con. Putting myself in their position as both scum and town I have a hard time deciding how I would play it out. If town, I pretty sure I'd just be reasonable. I think Turin has been the most reasonable of the two and I still have a case that I believe in against SD...despite Shads defense.

I forgot to get one thought out about Shad. He's "I can't deal with mechanics" stuff is either lazy (he seems way too smart for this) or preempting accountability.

I changed my mind. I need to spew my thoughts on todays events too. But it won't be part 3 as there is no time with deadline approaching.

PART 2 SHAD - DARTHE As I was keeping up between innings at the baseball game sucking down blue moons things were happening that made me go "whoa". Albeit in hindsight I was a little buzzed and that kind of whoa may seem like a scum catch but its that strong. Two days in a row we've had hyper-defenses happen that just don't make since to me. Like, how can you so strongly defend someone without knowing their alignment. Both players here are guilty of this. Shad for SD and Darthe for me. Darthe - Comes across very certain of three alignments in this game. Mine, Heavy's and Eds. His words two scum, Heavy and Ed, one town me. A weird way to be certain about people. His defense of me wasn't as bad as Shads of SD...but its there. I thought it was interesting the Darthe wasn't nk'd. If he is so goated and the scum team are afraid of him AND the thought that Leelou was a benign kill then using that reasoning it makes way more sense to have NK'd him again. Tig was benign had modconfirmed legit excuse for not posting. So nothing to play off of. And Darthe is the scary GOAT right? Shad - Shad's was hyper defensive of SD yesterday. I pushed and pushed him and he would not budge. Even tried the buddy up tactic by calling me town multiple time (side glances at Ithi here). I don't care how town you say I am....it doesn't change my opinion. Then he says, he'd vote easily berf and easily calling Heavy town. When end of day arrived he hovered a long time claiming he'd hammer. But he voted berf's choice that started the counter train. No reasoning. Looks like he got weirded out. Either bussed Teph of voted who had momentum. Of these two, my opinion one of them is scum or scum related (symp) THE END OF PART 2. I'm losing some of my own momentum here and need to catch up and see what is happening. I'll do part 3 later but those thoughts are less vigorous.

UNVOTE I still have things to say.

This may be rambling as I'm not going to do the whole multi-quote thing. If there are specific points you want clarification on (ignoring Ithi because here motives are very suspect to me) just ask and I'll give you the lolreceitps (lol is for Ithi). My train has derailed due to Darthe's read of Turin/SD...so this isn't a fight more my life post. (I do have one of those ready) THIS FIRST PART IS MECHANICS DISCUSSION. I'LL DRAW A LINE BELOW TO SEPERATE AND YOU CAN IGNORE THIS IF YOU WISH. ITS WHAT I TRIED TO POST YESTERDAY WHEN DM WAS SCREWING UP. LESS RELEVANT NOW AS DEADLINE IS APPROACHING The is a DPR game. It's gonna have twists and curves and I have to remind myself of that. Especially after night 0 when we lost the coroner and I thought we(town) were cooked. After chilling for a minute I started thinking no way this dude would allow his game to be broken Night 0. (id still like a reason why original darthe was double dead and verified instantly and why he had the choice to do that when it wasn't in the rules.) DPR has given us a path but I'm thinking its going to be a FU'd one. Roles - I've said this before but didn't elaborate my thoughts thoroughly as I was slightly annoyed at the time. DPR doesn't seem to want easy confirmed town/scum in death scenes. How does a mod combat this? By mixing the PA roles. It doesn't matter if day 1 cop or doc is town or scum because they are forced to pass that role along. Even if it seems OP for the scum team to start with one of those roles they can't keep it and they'd have to give it to town. This is why after the death scene I specifically stated Heavy leaned town. IMO he's not cleared until we have other confirming faction. He can be triangulated with the multiple investigation roles out there. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ THE FOLLOWING IS THE START OF MY READS AND SOME OF IT IS BASED ON THE ABOVE MENTAL HEADSPACE I AM IN. Gud and Ithi - I stated this made them both most likely town. Because those are traditional thoughts and its hard to get away from those well worn paths. (Darthe is displaying some of this too) If I were a pirate mod...one of these two roles would start on the scum team to sow confusion. (with so many investigative roles there has to be balance. Confusion could be that balance.) Ithi - I've been framing here as town in my mind...but she has so many friggin scum tells to me that its a juxtaposition. These two things dont fit plus i have a natural tendency to fight the omgus you must be scum for accusing me thing. (heavy, i'm talking to you) Point 1 She accuses me of directing in a post but she is actually the one doing this. Its a human nature thing to think others are capable of what you are capable of. For example: She gets on people for not voting....then later state second voters are scum. This actually keeps trains from forming. I love 3rd votes because it tends to start real discussions yet she laying traps? for second voters. The funny thing about that is later, she's placed the 2nd vote on people three times. Point 2 She purposefully misrepresents and condemns someone for actions while supporting or not calling out others for the same actions. example: She attacked Gud for basically not playing the game right but lets Ed fly by unscathed. Makes you scratch your head abit. She also got fake offended by me as a distraction to be opportunistic to my obviously sarcastic post. She was so bullheaded about it she refused to back off and concede I was obviously being sarcastic and that I did not insult her. I'll admit, this kind of crap is a push button trigger for me and that can leak through but I don't do emotional blackmail. If I offend someone I own it and try to learn. But fake offenses...I'm not having it. Point 3 As I mentioned before she has placed second votes a few times. These have been momentum changing votes two of the 3 times. First, on Teph's lynch. Berf pops in for "a few minutes" to basically say I'll change my vote to Teph easily. Keep in mind Teph is low on the radar but not super high at the time and other persons of interest have strong heat - namely SD. Ithi quickly changes her vote and Berf right after that. That's an interesting sequence. I thought so at the time but put in my file for later evidence. Then Ithi is the second vote on SD the next day. (but 2nd voters are scum right) To be followed by heavy doing the omgus thing and landing a vote on me with a quick removal of her (scummiest person) vote to me. Which in turn gets me a 3rd vote off of momentum. This Ithi directing (which she accused me of doing with no lolreceipts btw) THIS IS PART 1. BREAKING IT UP FOR EASIER CONSUMPTOIN. IM GONNA NEED AT LEAST ANOTHER HOUR.

Lol..life of having many browser up...i posted this in the wrong thread (sign up) but here it now. Woke up and showered and have done a quick read through. Yall get up early. Looks like DM is back to normal and hopefully no more lost posts. I had some feeling yesterday, and they've changed a bit. Give me an hour or so depending on phone calls etc.

lol...posted wrong thread.

Albuquerque. It really is a thing influenced by a Simpsons episode because they have predicted everything for some unknown reason. I've taken peeks at what's happened...and all I can say is wow. I've had several pops so I'll wait until the morning when I am more sober to respond.

DM isnt helping me with my limited time today in between family needs. I've lost posts a couple times already so hoping this short one gets through. VOTE SD I haven't seen anything changing from my opinion yesterday and with Shad's hyper defense of him I want to see how this resolves. Going to a baseball game after making tortillas for the week. I might be able to sneak back on but most likely I'll grab a look on my phone from the Isotopes game.

Back from the shower until the wife tells me "enough time with your girlfriend." (computer) Ithi, you've misrepresented timelines, statements and tried to pigeon hole me so much that if I didn't believe your opening role claim It would ping as a huge scum tell. I've answered every one of your hot takes and you have not responded to any of them. You don't even back off the mod confirmed story is just flavor. So, I'm ignoring you for awhile as it is distracting and I'm not scum. Onward.

I'm taking a shower...be back later.

I already stated that the apportioner role leaned Heavy as town. I'm pretty sure the DPR didn't give out all the roles traditionally since he's trying to make alignment at death difficult to determine. You are acting like he is cleared town. Heavy is hard to read because he OMGUS's every person that leans on him. Like....everytime.