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  1. Not terribly interested in arguing about the definitions-- I disagree with your definition, but it's not relevant to my complaint-- you get my point, they said they did it to motivate Moiraine. I don't know if it counts as a hint. They've been playing fast-and-loose with the Oath against killing "unless they're a darkfriend, or in defense of her life or her warder's life or the life of another sister" this whole time. If we're taking that execution as a hint, then what do we call it when Moiraine took out half a Seanchan fleet in the last season? I don't know that there was any more depth to the scene that I was giving it. They said they wanted to give Siuan a big speech and motivate Moiriane. That's what they did, and they cut a really time-consuming subplot. You could argue that it was a very practical choice. But her getting dead impacts Moiriane immediately and obviously and for the Tower it mostly just cuts off the cruelty and the torture that Siuan's speech emphasized. All it tells us about the Tower is that they are down with torture (which, no shit, everyone in this series loves torture) and they are merciless to darkfriends (which, no shit, so is everyone in this series).
  2. It is accurate that Laila got fridged. If you would like to add an arbitrary and additional distinction to the term "fridging" which requires that the character have been created solely so that they can die and motivate another character then I sincerely apologize for failing to fully engage with your vernacular and would like to restate my complaint as follows: What the FRIDGE, they killed of Siuan to motivate Moiraine and provide extra emotional depth to her fight with Lanfear and that is a stupid waste of a character and of an extremely talented actress and I DO NOT LIKE this narrative decision!
  3. Did you watch the little post-credits interview thing for the last episode? They were pretty explicit that they killed her off because they thought that her storyline in the books wasn't worth Sophie Okonedo's talents and this would give more emotional depth to Moiraine's fight with Lanfear. Killing off a character to motivate another character is the definition of fridging. You can argue that killing her off to motivate Moiraine is a better use of her than marrying her off to Gareth freakin' Bryne, sure. But I don't think that changes the fact that's she's still there, headless and chilly.
  4. They fridged Siuan and said it was to give her character something more important to do, the stupid rat bastards. Scheming her way to revenge on Elaida as a power behind the throne [ahem] I mean loyal adviser to Egwene IS something important to do dammit!
  5. I wouldn't say out of character! The books really did underutilize, or at least under-emphasize, the use of armor. (Possibly cause Jordan was a Vietnam Vet and I think armor then kinda sucked and possibly cause armor is sorta silly when you're fighting people who can call down lightning on your head). I think Perrin's character is calculating and deliberate enough that he would go "right. I cannot lead this battle or protect my friends if I am dead. I do not want to die. I will be in the middle of this fight where it is worst cause I am the biggest and baddest target here and Dain hates me and will target me. This armor is available and fits me. It will help me keep everyone I care about alive by serving as a distraction if nothing else. I will wear this armor." I just hate it cause the vibes are off y'know? Or hell maybe be doesn't wear armor and the scene was a weird dream sequence or something.
  6. I would like to resurrect a dead thread and this seems like a place to do it! Perrin was wearing armor in the preview for next week's episode and I friggin' hated it! Having read the above thread my rationale for an armorless Perrin is as follows: He is big. He is fast. He is perceptive to a supernatural degree (thank you, wolves). He is smart (yes I know he continually says he is slow and methodical, but there is a reason he generally says this right before someone looks at him in horror and goes "how did you catch that?"). And he has a (not controlled) supernatural ability to pull the pattern of reality to help him or hinder others. And in the TV show he absolutely DOES go into a berserker rage. I assume he stole the armor from a whitecloak and they are going for a "becoming what you hate and fear" plotline, which makes sense for the character and was also sorta present in the books. But I still hate Perrin in armor.
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