Do we know anything on how Rand being bonded affects Moridin?

Moridin seems to suffer from Rand's wounds. In TGS Graendal notes that Moridin's hand seems to be bother him.

I am personally tempted to go out and get an extra copy of TGS and ToM, tear them appart and put them back together in chronological order.

 

Just so you know, Brandon did that on purpose so that many of the awesome scenes in TGS wouldn't be pushed back into ToM, leaving TGS with some Egwene in the tower, Perrin not making much progress, entirely Dark Rand, etc. It might have been another CoT, which a new author would be hard pressed to deal with. He wanted to 'hit it out of the park' with TGS (and after reading ToM it completely makes sense) so he included a great deal of the best scenes at the end of TGS out of sequence with a few others timeline-wise.

I know, and up until I started ToM I supported this decision, but now I would like a chronological copy of the books.

Is it me or does the laps in time have you confused from TGS and ASOL between Rand and Perrin... Tam does not leave Perrin until like capter 30??? in AMOL...

 

Am i missing something?

Just that the timelines don't match up between Perrin and Rand - Perrin's story was put on hold in TGS while Rand was advanced, so in TOM Brandon had to catch Perrin up. (I assume that's what you meant; not sure what ASOL would be, unless it's A Storm of Light, which is the chapter where Rand went to Maradon, and AMOL isn't out yet.)

I am personally tempted to go out and get an extra copy of TGS and ToM, tear them appart and put them back together in chronological order.

What would happen if you balefired a gateway?

 

Also can cuellandar be detroyed by use of a gateway?

 

1. I think someone asked RJ this, and he said get a life haha. (or that may have been about balefiring yourself.)

To answer, I am not sure.

 

Two ways you can take this. That the gateway opens and you can balefire through it to wherever you want.

 

second, I dont think a gateway is actually a thread in the pattern. It bends/pokes a hole through the pattern. I dont think you can balefire it.

 

However, if you could (im not sure, have to ask someone else) id assume it works like any other balefired thing. Toast.

 

2. No, it just moves the gateway around the cuendillar

Why don't they make cuendillar door frames and stick them in open gateways?

Hugely silly question here, but I live to entertain.

 

I seem to recall a scene where someone explains to someone else precisely how the temp-ignoring trick works that allows AS stay all dignified regardless of weather conditions. Did I dream this scene, or can someone elaborate on those few details?

The most detailed description of it I can think of is shortly after Moiraine gets raised to the shawl when they teach her.

I apologize if these are stupid questions about TAR, but I've been wondering them for a while.

 

I know someone can get real injuries from TAR (a burn, scrape, bruise, poison, etc) but what about illnesses or pregnancies even. Some living things do show up in TAR, yes? Is it possible to get sick from a virus or bacteria or other Microbe in TAR? And, what about getting pregnant in TAR? I'm thinking "no" because you can't carry anything out yes?) of TAR including pathogens or sperm, but would you still have the effects of the disease or a pseudo-pregnancy?

 

Thanks :)

If you stay there long enough for it to incubate (and they exist there at all) then I would say yes. No matter what you caught when you woke up its presence in your body would vanish, but if it dissolved your liver before you woke you would wake short one liver.

That said the Heroes of the Horn stay there as do wolves and they do not die of sickness so I would guess that pathogens are not present there.

As for pregnancy, I believe that a woman would have to stay a long time for her body to notice that it is pregnant.

After Morgase escapes Caemlyn, why does she go to Amadicia of all places? Because it's a stable nation that Rand hasn't conquered yet? With that logic, why not go to Illian (I know, Sammael was there, but she didn't know that). I ask because Whitecloaks don't typically go over well in Andor, and Amadicia is basically the Whitecloaks' country.

I'm not sure why she picked Amadicia over Illian, but from Morgase's perspective those were the only places she could get help.  Rhavin turned her against the Tower.  The borderlanders would not get involved Altera and Murandy are not strong and Murandy is an enemy.  Cairhein and Tear were in Rand's hands and she did not think she could trust him.  Arad Doman, Tarabon and Ghealdean were in chaos.

In TFoH why didn't Mohogidean kill Elayne and Nyneave when she was on the boat with them?

In TFOH there were some hints that Leane might be ahem... leaning (I ask for your pardon for this) towards Logain.

I'm in the middle of LOC in my reread but I can't remember if this "relationship" has gone deeper or if it has been left there. That might be something of minor importance in Tarmon Gaid'on, but still important. Leane/Logain bonded.

I'm up to Morgase's flight from Rhavin and have not noticed Leane doing anything other than teasing Logain, and I remember her continuing to do so.  I do not think she was ever attracted to him and I know that the have not hooked up and are not likely to do so.

TGH, Chapter 28 (New Thread in the Pattern):

Urien speaks of Verin having the 'look' of Wise Ones. We know that Wise Ones are not bound so they don't have the ageless look. Is this a mistake, or is there something else?

 

BTW: Verin - How could she catch the hunters (Ingtar's party) with one horse?

I think Urien was referring to the slowing of the Wise Ones.

And she caught the hunters because as a single person she can move faster.  She probably also used the One Power to "rest" her horse, to save time in food preparation and other subtle time saving endeavors.

RJ:  Some Asian cities of that period had populations near one million but nothing in Europe was even close. 

Is that accurate?  I know before the fall of Rome it had over a million, but I do not know how long it took to regain that kind of population density.

Is it Andor custom for any potential Daughter Heir to go to Tar Valon for study, even those not in the House currently holding the throne?  Didn't Morgase go to Tar Valon before Tigraine took off?

It is not custom for anyone who could potentially gain the throne to go to Tar Valon, just the Daughter Heir (the queen's daughter).  Morgase went with the hopes of becoming Aes Sedai.

I don't know if this has been asked but does it ever say that Cyndane/Lanfear actualy died in finnland. I always thought that she had gone once before and got her beauty and power, I remember from TGH Min's warning to Perrin about running away from the most beautiful women he's ever seen and Lolial's comment on her beauty which made it seem to me that it was unnatural and I think in WH Cyndane mentions something about power.

 

I always thought that they returned her to her original form and power

 

Just to clarify is it ever mentionned that she actualy dies?

The general consensus is that she was stilled and died and was then healed by a woman as the transmigration did not fix the stilling, but there is nothing in the books besides the new name to contradict your theory.

I thought it was commonly accepted that hte seanchan version was the corrupted one, especially since it would be much easier to corrupt something that is being moved that somethign that is sitting still, and its more likely that Pendraeg had very few copies making the job that much easier

Either both the original Seanchan version AND the Kraethorn Cycle (neither of which mentioned Rand bowing to the Crystal Throne) are corrupted, or the version brought with Luthair (which does mention Rand bowing to the Crystal Throne) is corrupted. One or the other of these premises must be true -- unless all three are corrupted, in which case the gloves are off. If one or the other is pure, reason would say that Luthair's version is the corrupted one, especially considering that he was sent at a time when Ishy had the ear of Artur Hawkwing and would be in a prime position to corrupt the prophecies sent with Luthair to the Seanchan.

 

Likely they are all three slightly corrupted just because of the passage of time, retelling and retranslations. However, the big corruption I think was with Luthair's copy IMO. And I think it was done by Ishamael. Ishamael had been an advisor to Hawkwing and had been part of getting him to send off his sons like this - it would be relatively easy for him to corrupt Luthair's copy. Either that, or Luthair's copy was corrupted later by Emperors/Empresses changing it for propaganda purposes (kneeling to the Crystal Throne and all). That may be the simplest explanation, actually.

 

EDIT: Fixing grammar fail.

I have always believed in the propaganda theory myself as I do not see Ishamael predicting something as specific as the Seanchan adopting a crystal throne.

Essanik Cycle [seanchan version of Prophecies of the Dragon]

If I'm allowed just a small correction, the Essanik Cycle isn't parallel to Randland's Karatheon Cycle, it's a different set of prophecies given by Seanchan damane (hence it didn't exist before Luthair arrived at the Seanchan continent). The part about Rand kneeling to the Crystal Throne appears in the Seanchan Karatheon Cycle, and that's the part that was apparently tempered with.

Also, BS confirmed that there has been tampering with one if not both of those (he was unclear if that's regarding the Seanchan version or the Randland one), but he did not name the culprit.

It says that the generally accepted version of the Seanchan prophecies came with Luthar Pendrag.  There is a quote somewhere that says that this is where the kneeling to the Crystal Throne line came from.

Now that Rand has channeled(can channel?) TP, can he sense TP channeling?

Moridin says that it can only be sensed by the one wielding it.

Hey all,  I was wondering if anyone could tell me why shadowspawn can't use gateways?

Other than it causes an acute case of death, I don't believe that there is a reason provided.  There is some speculation that gateways cause the porwer used to animate constructs to dissipate.  And it is known that gateways kill all constructs, including those created by the light like the Nym.

If Moridin coordinates another tea party in T'A'R, what are the chances of Rand being there

I love this idea and would love to see it happen, but personally I agree with Drekka Mort.  That said we have not info on the consequences.

Here's one.  before posting here i tried to conduct a search but got a recurring database error.

 

is there a general consensus or an actual answer as to who the large pack of darkhounds is hunting?

 

Fain has been suggested as one possibility.

It's definitely not Perrin.

It's not Mat either since he's been very exposed and vulnerable.

 

I would bet on Fain, but there is no consensus.  I cannot think of another target.

Hello

 

Just a question about something in the Crown of Swords, in the back of the UK edition, it says in SL a terrible power awakens...is it the link between Rand and Moridin created when their balefire touched?

I don't remember that line, may be it's not in the American version, but I would guess that it refers to mashidar

Also what was in the message Pedron Niall received just before his death? Is it the Seanchan coming back?

We are never told, but based on Niall's reaction I would guess that it was a warning about the Seanchan.

When Byar/Bornhald had a strong grip against Perrin that was in the Two Rivers, AFTER Falme (Bornhald Sr. 's ass beeing wiped off by the Seanchan). But now that the whole WC's army has seen what the Seanchan are capable of when taking Amador, they won't believe that Perrin was responsible for Dain's dad death.

They believe that Perrin warned the Seanchan of the impending Whitecloak attack, and that the Whitecloak attack drove the Seanchan into the sea despite being destroyed.  Perrin's recent work with the Seanchan will not help his story.

Is there ever a scene in any of the books with Ishmael/Moridin communicating with the DO the way some of the other forsaken have?  Or at the very least a glimpse of a memory at any point indicating there was?

Nope I can only think of scenes like that with Mohogedean, Demandred and to a very small extent Grendeahl.  I am pretty sure that the nature of their imprisonment indicates that they all have done so, but those are the only ones I know of where we see the Dark One speak.

Hello there, I'm new here my first post, so I'm sorry if it has already been answered somewhere else (I read through the whole thread, a very interesting read I must say).

 

In the firs book EoTW, Min tells Rand about a few visions she has of him during his stay in Bearlon. If I recall correctly one of these was about a "golden hand". And as we know, Rand loses his hand in one of the later books.

 

Is there a connection between these two incidents? I'm appealed to believe he will regain his hand somehow, thought the connections are quite weak.

I don't remember how it was described possibly bloody, but it was definitely something bad, not golden.  The general consensus is that the vision was fulfilled when Rand lost it.

In Lord of Chaos, when Elayne and Birgitte are scouring the Rahad to find the Bowl of Winds, they note that Adeleas is in the area.  In one scene, she almost gets stabbed but she wraps the attackers in Air, lifts them to the second story of a building and throws them through a window.

 

However, before they left Salidar Adeleas and Vandene both note that they are not strong enough to make gateways.  When Siuan finds out her Healed strength is much less she makes the comment that lifting something with Air is one of the most difficult things in channeling. 

 

Is it difficult because of skill?  Or the amount of the Power you have to use?  If Adeleas can't create a gateway but can lift an attacker to the second story of a building...that confused me.

Now that you point this out I am puzzled too, Siuan's exact line is "True, the simple act of picking something up was one of the hardest in channeling, but she had been able to lift nearly three times her own weight." 

I believe that the weaves to lift something are simple, but require a deceptively large amount of strength.  I know that creating a gateway requires a significant amount of strength and it is a very complex weave.  I would guess that a gateway requires the strength to lift two people and Adeleas can only lift one.  These numbers are obviously far from accurate, but I believe that the order is correct.

Just how much added life span does a Warder get through the bond with his Aes Sedai? I know they live longer but how much longer than normal, assuming they are'nt killed defending their AS.

I do not believe that they get much if any extension to their natural life spans, but they do avoid a lot of the draw backs associated with aging.

I too suspect that cuendillar made by men is black. I'm trying to remember if we have any examples of cuendillar in a color other than black or white. I don't think so...

 

I would say probably.  The seals were almost certainly made at the time of the sealing which would mean that men made them and they are black and white.

They may have been made by men and women as they are not the actual seal, but a focus for the seal so they could have been made by men and women prior to the strike and then when LTT sealed the bore brought into the equation.