I kind of thought that Matt espaced Dar tar but he hasn’t left yet hiding out with the circus 

I didn’t get any of that really from reading it But then again they need to be in it more that’s why I think there’s too many characters I forget about the smaller ones

thanks for your help 

Can someone explain to me what is the story with Logain Gabrielle and Toveine is exactly I can’t remember The sisters are there to kill men that can channel I think or spy on the black tower or something I don’t really understand Why are they with Logain is he good evil helping them with their mission 

I can’t say I have found anything that sad yet lol it’s sad that Perrin isn’t in the story much haha

I thought it was quite good some of the plot threads seem to be finally happening Matts story especially I find Perrin quite pointless to story he never seems to have much too do I do think there are too many characters though the white cloaks are very pointless and I don’t fully understand all the stuff with the sea fork and their bargin to Rand and why they have gone to Far Maddening or Luc I remember he was slayer or something in a wolf dream I find parts very confusing and bit boring

Winter’s heart is said too be part of the slog but I am enjoying it some important plot points finally start to happen I think the only parts I didn’t like were with Egeanin they were  very confusing but I guess it’s all tying together to be important 

Is it worth watching or is it too far from the novels I hope they miss out a lot of the political stuff that really bogs the story down for me 

I like the basic idea Rand the dragon either can save the world or destroy it Mar having luck and Perrin being a type of werewolf 

Aiel sedis 

But all the politics are very confusing and makes the story very slow In my opinion I would say at this point the series is overhyped definitely liked the sword of truth Eragon much better 

I don’t think I will re read the series I just don’t find that good to even think of doing that 

I will carry on at moment I’m liking the start of winter’s heart with Perrin and Failes stories 

I don’t like the way characters seem to be forgotten about for books though 

15 hours ago, Andra said:

It's not that Elayne and Aviendha are lesbians, it's that they've decided that if they have to share Rand, they need to do it the way the Aiel do - as adopted first sisters.  It's not out of the blue, but actually based deeply in Aiel culture.

 

In some cases, such a relationship would start with the women (whether romantic or not) then add the man.  Like Bain and Chiad might eventually add Gaul.  In others, it starts with one man and one woman, then add the other woman. 

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Like with Bael and Dorindha marrying Melaine.

 

Thanks I seem to get more confused as the books go on Login is finally back and Edith has sent additional sedi to kill men who channel I think that is what is happening not a easy series to follow I don’t think 

I’m on winters heart now and I was surprised and confused over Eyane  and Adventist being half sisters or lesbian I had no ideaEyane was so that come out of nowhere for me 

There seems to be a few plots that just seem to pop up without any leads also I think Robert Jordon didn’t know what to do with a lot of his characters Perrain Lolia Thom Ian which is quite disappointing 

1 hour ago, Gothic Flame said:

Brandon Sanderson smoothed out the writing a good deal. The pace in those last books move fairly quick...you really want to read them. I almost envy you.

Yeah I’m getting pretty bored with it now Its all taking too long now but I read this far so I will try to carry on I have found the whole thing pretty slow to be honest 

I haven’t watched the show yet waiting till I finish it sounds like they have changed the whole story though 

3 hours ago, DojoToad said:

Definitely not a series for everyone, but maybe you'll change your mind after the big finish!

 

If not, there are lots of other things to read and thanks for spending some time here with us.

I will probably watch the tv series afterwards have you seen it?

20 hours ago, DojoToad said:

Read the entire series 2 or 3 times in its entirety (including the prequel) and it becomes much easier.  ?

 

Keep the WoT Encyclopedia on the side for reference - because 15 books...  It is very good at answering questions on who is who and their relationships.  Was very disappointed that it didn't have more new information to flesh out stuff the books just glossed over.

 

 

I don’t think I will read it again to be honest I find it quite slow but I Like to finish now I’m this far 

I follow a lot of YouTube channels so I can keep track of things I miss

9 hours ago, qlorin said:

It is a rank in Dark Ones forces. Highest rank after Dark One itself.

There are "Forsaken" who are top of the Dark One's forces. One of the Forsaken is chosen to be nae'blis to command the others. I dont know where are you in the books so i could not say who is current nae'blis. But for example it was Ishamael in the Age of Legends.

I’m on path of daggers so Nae blis has just been mentioned thanks for the help 

Is it just me that finds this series really confusing and hard to follow  I don’t quite understand what exactly wh or what nae'blis is 

 Yes I know his a YouTuber lol 

11 hours ago, thehumantrashcan said:

Then RAFO.  Can't be giving anything away.  

But I thought this forum was for questions that we don’t understand but fair enough lol 

22 minutes ago, thehumantrashcan said:

Have you finished Path of Daggers?

Nope not yet about halfway 

So in path of daggers Maighdin is queen Morgase with Perrins party I don’t really understand that have I got that right or am I just confused 

9 hours ago, divica said:

after ep 4 the show has lost me.

They transformed a pretty well written story into something that appears to be writen by a 12 year old.

 

I don't understand this obecession with the dragon stuff. Everything that happens must be about people thinking that x character is the dragon. And why weaken the story further by having nyn making something amazing that she didn't need to do and has no reason to be able to do?

I didn’t think it would be much good the books are quite slow to adapt I think 

I haven’t watched them yet I’m just not that excited plus I want to finish the books first really 

One thing I don’t like about the books is characters like get dropped from books 

Hmm I didn’t think that bit was written very well at all Nyaeve and Elayane just laughed at Mat when I told them and then he even kind of brushed it off so I was left thinking that is a very odd reaction to rape or was it even rape 

I watched Daniel Greenes premiere night on YouTube and I’m more excited for the show now these YouTubers are very lucky what a cool thing to do

That billboard in picadiddy in London with the Fade coming out the screen at you is very cool the bit in Morraine though abit cheesy haha

The cast seem like nice people from their interviews 

I can’t be as bad as Stephen kings under the dome adaption lol