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Samuel Aybara

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  1. She is a bit too moody, I'll admit, but I think it just shows up more b/c Perrin can smell her moods as opposed to the other two Ta'veren who are just constantly perplexed by the women in their life (although Rand is a little too far gone by TGS to notice or care). I'd say if you gave Rand the ability to sense the moods of his wives, you would find a lot more haters for Min and Elayne, at the very least.
  2. As stated above. Considering what has happened in The Gathering Storm, albeit a small amount, do you like or dislike Faile?
  3. The fact the people hate her amazes me. She didn't decide to get captured or have RJ write her as a jealous person. If you hate her, reread the the scenes in TSR with Perrin and her. She is a great character and eventually replaced Egwene as my favorite female character.
  4. In short, no. In long, the WoT plotline has to be very short as they couldn't just sit around while the Dark One breaks free. However, RJ still wanted to fully develop the characters and events, which took him an understandably long time as you have more than 5 main characters. Think about plotlines in gaming and other novels: they have to be long to make the game/novel worth something but they also have to have a sense of urgency.
  5. Eh, I'm not sure I see a lot of connection between WoT and the Matrix. The whole idea of a single powerful hero to save the world is a universal archetype and is in basically all fantasy. On the other points: sure, you can see some similarities but I think the Matrix and WoT are entirely different entities. Interesting point of view, though.
  6. I think Alliandre is sworn to Perrin so by proxy, Perrin would control Manetheren. I also think he could get Arad Domain, Ghealdan, Saldaea, Two Rivers area, and maybe even a controlling interest in Mayene. However, I doubt he will want to control that much land.
  7. Gotta say I'm feeling Aviendha for this one just because she is more interesting than the other two (IMHO) and I just kinda like the way she interacts with people. Elayne... no. I really don't like her at all, way too snotty. Finally, I'm okay w/ Min because she's one of the nicer characters but sometimes she seems way too dependent on Rand.
  8. The end scene after Perrin went into the Wolfdream to save Faile in The Dragon Reborn is my vote for most touching. Something about the atmosphere makes it exceptional. The line by Perrin, "Faile. My falcon," while he's covered in blood is just amazingly done. And yes, the famous Emond's Field scene in TSR was what made that book the one I've read at least 20 times. The letter and the setup around it was amazing, as was the emotional intensity of the entire thing. It's marriage, battle, and salvation wrapped into an amazing couple of chapters. Perrin's voice write before the battle is so realistic and well done. I will readily admit that if I want something fun to read, I'll just go through the Perrin chapters in TSR.
  9. Definately, and Perrin/Faile. I think it would ALMOST be worse if Faile died because it would tear Perrin apart.
  10. Physically maybe. I really meant an emotional attachment.
  11. I never really saw anything between them. It seemed like she was just employing her (somewhat) classic manipulation to get her out of her predicament.
  12. I'm going with just Verin. However, it would be awesome if she was my mother. Talk about an interesting experience.
  13. Flagg: Please explain. That just sounded like a childish rant without backup. Why do you hate her and Perrin?
  14. Wow, quite a bit of discussion. I wanted to add something that I realized a while ago today. Everyone can admit that Perrin is obsessed with Faile. Heck, even I, as her biggest defender, will admit this. Everyone thinks that it's just that Perrin is like that. I have a couple of alternate ideas: 1. Perrin enters this stage in "The Shadow Rising." The reason he is obsessed with her is that is was the only reason for him to stay alive in the books. He was willing to go have himself hanged in the Two Rivers by the Whitecloaks in order to protect his family and his people. However, when he got there, he discovered that they were already dead. At that point he was extremely emotionally unstable, perhaps even suicidal. However, Faile was there and she kept him from self-destructing. Perrin, at this point in the book, has nobody except her: His entire family is dead, his friends have grown away from him, and his is stuck in a position he doesn't want to be as Lord of Two Rivers. Faile is his "rock" (to quote Obama) and she's the only connection that he has to society. 2.(This is MUCH more important.) Perrin is a wolfbrother and therefore is slowly degrading and changing into a wolf in his spirit. Faile is the ONLY thing that keeps him from going completely AWOL and becoming a wolf permanently. He realizes this and therefore he latches into this connection. She is the one thing that is holding him up from this alternate version of himself. Without her, he would be lost to the wolves' world and would never be able to help Rand in the last battle. He fully realizes this and therefore he knew that he had to become extremely attached to something in order to prevent this change. Just a couple of extra ideas I copied from my Amazon post.
  15. (Modified Version) Hey everyone, I have noticed a lot of Faile-bashing over the years from many sources. As she has progressed to be probably my favorite female main, I wanted to put a couple of things out there that represent my position and hopefully give Faile a chance. 1: Faile, however controlling she may be, is only doing this for Perrin's sake. She could care less if she is viewed as important in the Two Rivers as she stands to (potentially as I can see both her parents and Queen Tenobia kicking the bucket in the final three books at least as a plot device to install Perrin on the throne) inherit the Saldaean throne. Nevertheless, she still already is a powerful person. She knows that Perrin, like the other two, is special and can have an important role in the "world." She just expresses this more forcibly because it is Saldaean nature and because she realizes that, unlike Rand and Mat, Perrin is the least accpeting of his incredibly powerful position. 2: I personally believe that RJ may have gotten some slight inspiration for her from The Fountainhead. Yes, it's strange to consider it but in that book, Dominique Francon, seems to have the same fiercely independent nature as Faile. 3. She has the deepest caring for her husband compared to the others. Unlike them, she sees him as a person and not so much one of the ta'veren. Although she is originally drawn to him by that whirlpool, she seems as if she loses that obsession pretty early (read: as soon as she gets on the boat out of whatsthetowncalledwheretheyfirstmet.) In contrast, all of Rand's wives and Tuon are more drawn to the persona rather than the person. We can see this because Perrin and Faile are the first and best marriage of all three. Rand and Mat seems to not really... care some of the time. 4. She's Saldaean. 'Nuff said. 5. She thinks for herself and views Perrin as not only a husband in legal terms but in terms of how they seem to almost... just almost.. be Platonic ideals for each other as compared to Mat ("Wha..what happened? I'm married?) and Rand ("It's so hard to pick... ah, well no one said I have to chose.) 6: Don't hate her for the chase scene. It was RJ's pen and not her character who decided to get caught up in it. Although, if she turns out to be evil, well... that would be pretty much unthinkable. I can see one of Rand's wives going over to the dark side but Faile would only be able to do so through a cloud of flying pigs. Just consider this before you all judge her down as a horrible character. EDIT: Everyone knows that Perrin is obsessed with Faile (The world can burn if it keeps her safe). Some people dislike her just for that. Here's my take on it on his obsession: 1.Perrin is a wolfbrother and therefore is slowly degrading and changing into a wolf in his spirit. Faile is the ONLY thing that keeps him from going completely AWOL and becoming a wolf permanently. He realizes this and therefore he latches into this connection. She is the one thing that is holding him up from this alternate version of himself. Without her, he would be lost to the wolves' world and would never be able to help Rand in the last battle. He fully realizes this and therefore he knew that he had to become extremely attached to something in order to prevent this change. 1. Perrin enters this stage in "The Shadow Rising." The reason he is obsessed with her is that is was the only reason for him to stay alive in the books. He was willing to go have himself hanged in the Two Rivers by the Whitecloaks in order to protect his family and his people. However, when he got there, he discovered that they were already dead. At that point he was extremely emotionally unstable, perhaps even suicidal. However, Faile was there and she kept him from self-destructing. Perrin, at this point in the book, has nobody except her: His entire family is dead, his friends have grown away from him, and his is stuck in a position he doesn't want to be as Lord of Two Rivers. Faile is his "rock" (to quote Obama) and she's the only connection that he has to society. Rand and Mat both have the same family with which they began the series. Perrin lost EVERYONE. Faile just fills that void. You have to realize that Perrin is a character of the people so they mean a HUGE amount to him, especially his family (Perun is the Slavic god of the common man). So the lost of all these people close to him is enough to push him over the edge. That would have happened if Faile wasn't there; she's all he has now. Remeber he was willing have himself hanged to just PROTECT his family. Imagine the damage that losing them all had.
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