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dlan4327

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  1. Yes & no. I mean even extremely detailed notes will never really be a substitute. I enjoyed it overall but the more time I spend thinking about it, the more I'm beginning to wonder what it would've been like if RJ had done it in the style that he wrote Eye of the World.
  2. Gawyn's death struck me the most. He's actually retroactively become my favourite character. He grew so much & yet learned so little & died in such a dumb meaningless way, leaving Ewgene all alone. Yet he did everything because he thought he was doing the right thing & he was just a bit of a loveable idiot. I suppose I should have known Ewgene would die but when it happened it sort of snuck up & me & it took me a bit to process what had happened.
  3. I am satisfied. Just finished a first read through, a bit quickly, I guess but It's the literary equivalent of wolfing down your food too quick. If I had to single out one aspect of the book that really struck me, or stood out to me it would have to be the casual manners in which a number of the main characters deaths were handled. To be brief: I loved that. It really helped hit home what I feel is the truth about war. No soldier, no matter how great or heroic, gets the valiant last stand, coveted in glory & drawn out before ending in an epic fall to the ground screaming defiance. The truth is that most men just take a shot to the neck or a blow to the gut, crumple, have maybe a split second of horror/shock & they fall in the mud. Dead. It's going to sound strange but even though in my mind I knew 22 years we've been building up to The Last Battle and yet the deaths still caught me by surprise although a part of me was thinking, you're surprised that people are dying in an apocalypse? It would be like jumping into a pool then screaming 'Oh god, I'm wet!'. If I had to be even more specific & pick the moment that have so far affected me most, it's currently the death of Gawyn & the events surrounding & coming as a direct result of his death. For me that was a very powerful set of events. I still don't know how to feel about Gawyn. I feel like his character developed in so many admirable ways & yet remained stubbornly idiotic in the ways the count and for all that I think in his passing I've finally grown to love his character. Of all the characters, his death was surely the most meaningless. It was set in stone the moment he put on those rings and what I am still chuckling over is the fact that I still feel that was not ever necessary. Oh it was necessary to make a great story but from a decision making pov I am laughing at that dumb sob. In the way that you laugh at a dumb kid you just can't help but adore. My favourite part was the way he never even thought to simply tell Ewgene & see if there was anybody who could have healed him. Oh Gawyn. I think an aspect of his death I absolutely loved was that even with his ter'angreal, Sanderson/RJ wanted to really drum home just how utterly outclassed Gawyn was by Demandred. It helped me put a perspective at the super human kind of level those guys from the Age of Legends were at. I was, however, baffled by the fact that Galad without a blurring shape still managed to put up, apparently, a better fight that Gawyn. I have no issue with them both falling, I felt it was the only appropriate outcome. My issue, a trifling one, was with character development & consistency. I felt that Gawyn's whole identity was tied into how he as grown both as a person by learning forgiveness & as a swordsman by slowly but surely stepping out of Gawyn's shadow to establish himself as maybe the 2nd best swordsman in the land. That he simply died without dignity or putting any real strain on Demandred was a plus to me, again helping to really drum home the kind of superiority they were dealing with. I just found it odd that after putting in so much effort to see Gawyn develop his identity as the Premier swordsman, especially considering he was a man with nothing to lose, to then end up putting on a 2nd class show compared to Galad? I didn't get that one, i liked it, it just felt inconsistent. Gawyn's death & it's directly related happenings was, for me, the most powerful moment in the book. It just felt so personal & intimate & had such great bearing mostly because it got me emotionally involved with such a stupid son of a goat. Everything he did could have been avoided right up to & including his death. I didn't mind, I found it privately hilarious, it highlighted what has intrigued me most about his character. His development. I feel that no character in the books grows so much as a person & yet learns so little at the same time. His decision making flickered between baffling & mind numbingly asinine. He managed to forgive Rand, learn to love Ewgene without implying he felt she was inferior & needed protection, those were huge steps. At the same time he felt that his best option to scout a path & free him & his lover was to activate a suicidal ring? I'll admit that was one choice he may have been forced into but to not tell Ewgene or anybody about it? In an age where miracle seems to happen on the daily & twice on Tuesdays? There was surely a cure waiting just around a corner. However even if we forgive him all these terrible decisions I refuse to forgive him for wandering off during the the apocalypse to fight a man who is two steps away from being Satan's boss. There was simply no way he was ever even going to come close to winning & a blind monkey with Aspergers could've see that. That wasn't even the worst part, though. What's rule numero uno of being a body guard of any kind? Never leave your principle. I know diddly squat about security/warfare but even I know that. It's dumb, reckless & worst of all in his case, selfish. He felt that it was noble but no wife/husband, who genuinely loved their partner, has ever thought that their spouse going off to die was in their best interest. All these decisions, I find it hard to believe a man who has grown up with a palace education & has lead men in battle could willingly make these. His character was just too unbelievably stupid. I think this is why I've sort of grown fond of him. I guess in hindsight he's become a sort of de facto favourite character. So much education & so much growth & so, so unfathomably selfish & stupid yet I love him because the whole time he thought he was doing what was best for Ewgene & everybody. As I wrap this up I really should mention Ewgene's death. Bizzare how despite knowing this was the Last Battle in both name & nature, I just kept getting surprised by who kept dying. Everybody else saw it coming but I just didn't expect her to die the way she did. i guess nobody expects a loved one to die & turn into a giant white pole. It just sort of snuck up on me. The way it was suddenly mentioned that she had draw too much of the power. It wasn't like other deaths where 'suddenly an arrows sprouted through his chest, his eyes galzed over' those deaths you know instantly & you can process the shock. This, for me, was more subtle. She was drawing in way more than she could handle, my first thought was oh this is building to something. Then I realised oh she'd *already* drawn in too much and my second reaction was, oh god she's burned herself out, how will she continue as Amyrilin, then finally as the paragraph had her keep drawing in energy, more & more & then the penny finally dropped along with my jaw. It took me three whole seperate thought process to wrap my mind around the fact that in that one sentence, one action of drawing in power, she was already dead I just didn't know it yet. That was very moving for me. Call me a hopeless romantic but I always thought/hoped/wanted Ewgene/ & Gawyn to make it. So that really hit home for me. Funnily enough I have loved Mierin right throughout the series & I also got very emotional that she was given such a beautiful, poetic ending. I am a living testament to how stupid men can be over women. Even with all the ample evidence of her character, to see her helping in the last book I still believed she wasn't truly evil right up until she tried to kill Rand at the very end. I'm a right sucker because in my heart if I was there I would still try to 'save' her. I maintain she wasn't like the other chosen. That tremor in her voice, she was the only one to show that somewhere buried deep she did, if not love, then believe in the union betwixt her & Lews Therin. I'm glad, though. She never lost her edge. Anything less than a fierce, vengeful, wrath driven fury would have just not suited her. I just always felt she was the most sane, least petty of all the forsaken & she was a villain with style that you could truly love. The others were just brutal savages but she always brought a smile out of me. A true villain. The kind you love to hate & strive to defeat but when they die you're filled with a sense of loss & regret that you just can't quite fill or ever shake off. She got under my skin & I will forever love her for that. Thanks RJ. Thanks Sanderson.
  4. So how many questions do I get? Wait... Dammit.
  5. My mind went to a really dirty place and I liked it.
  6. I think I like Tenobia. I know, she's had all of maybe 10 lines in the entire series. I don't know why but I love Saldeans. For some reason I picture them as Asian.
  7. I haven't been here in a long time & I've started to come back for 'check ups'. When I was here there used to be one thread I'd convinced myself would never, ever die. One word. Asmodean. Pages & pages. Enough debate to fill the entire WOT series over & over again. Imagine my surprise when I found the thread vanished. Where has it gone? Or did you finally figure it out? Could I please be directed to the thread? Or given the answer? Again sorry but I didn't know where else to ask this.
  8. Like lots of people have been saying isn't it theoretically possible that Moraine's stream of balefire was weak enough that it's effects could be reversed?
  9. That's like saying a Lioness Vs a Peacock. One is all puffed up & full of talk. The other is a genuine fighting machine. Tuon would gut Faile with one hand tied behind her back. :D
  10. Lanfear/Mierin. I just want to be clear when I say Lanfear/Mierin I'm intentionally leaving out Cyndane because I don't like that part of her. As for Lanfear to this day I can think of very few female character's who I have fallen so deeply unabashedly in love with. An amazing creation. She was so vivid throughout the early parts of the series. How often does a character come along who literally makes your mouth run dry?
  11. Since I last visited & how long I've been waiting for AMOL. I'm just here to ask you guys about a publishing date. I visited Sanderson's site & noticed his status bar now showed 109% for AMOL & 90% for Harriet's line edits. Since this confused me greatly & all I was after was a rough date of publication & I figured you guys & girls would be able to help. So in a nutshell is there an official publication date for AMOL? Even a rough guess like maybe September or November?
  12. I'm thinking Semirhage won't turn but she may be subjugated or bullied into obeying for the first time in her life. Plus I'm a massive Lanfear fan & I would be disappointed if she turned. Lucky that's not gong to happen. P.S. Notice I said Lanfear fan & didn't add Cyndane. I don't care for Cyndane.
  13. Read the Kushiel's Legacy series? Just out of pure curiosity. I stopped coming to these boards quite a while back to stop myself from pining for an end to the series. ::) As it happens I've been pouring through plenty of fantasy as a stop gap and I'm well and truly hooked on Kushiel's Legacy. Robert Jordan called it "A very sophisticated fantasy, intricately plotted and a fascinating read." Just thought I'd recommend it while I was popping back in to see what's changed. On that note I'm actually quite scared that Luckers seems to have somehow become more prolific than before I left (Didn't think that was possible) & simultaneously bemused that his partner in crime, RAW, has made himself scarce. Weird days. Incidentally when did Madeline L'Engle pass away? On top of that Terry Pratchett has been diagnosed with Alzheimer's. It's been a tough few years for fantasy writers. Although in Prachett's case I don't think Alzheimer's will affect his writing. I love his work but even I'll admit that not even Alzheimer's could possily make it any more incoherent than it already is. :D Ah well, feel free to name and authors you're interested in. I'm open minded.
  14. I assumed that they definitely broke the covenant in the sense that they would have been hurling fire six ways from Sunday in an effort to destroy each other.
  15. Ahhh thank you. I remember watching Godzilla battle that giant Moth guy but I never knew it's name was Mothra. Clears everything up. Now Godzilla, there's a truly awesome fantasy creature. Does anybody remember Ultra-man? He was another random Japanese super hero who fought Mothra. Great character shot yellow laser beams from his eyes. I think.
  16. First of all, what are Mothra? Secondly Why won't Jumara's transform anymore? That at least is according to Sammael, before he got incinerated by a low lying cloud. If I run into RJ in the afterlife I know what I'll be asking him first thing...
  17. Well, it's been a while. So I figured why not post on a thread that was about reunions? It would be fun to see a big reunion but does anybody think there'll even be time for all these people to meet up again? I've got a feeling Rand will be wandering around as a beggar. Galad will be off with the white cloaks ad god only knows where Morgase & Tallavnor will be. ::)
  18. :D Love that one. On a darker note I hate Lini. I would love to see her get crushed by a falling cow at some point during the last battle. ;)
  19. Don't mean to pry, Dreadlord, but your signature doesn't leave much to the imagination at all. I mean Faile annoys me too... but that's harsh. ;)
  20. If it helps I think I could whip up a handy chart to summarise good and evil. EVIL: Anything that results in manual labour/intensive thought/having to put on pants GOOD: Everything Else
  21. I give up. Maybe I just don't get it but... what's with the Bela fascination bordering on fetishes with some users who'll remain unnamed.
  22. This might be slightly off topic but the OP mentioned that there have been 300 pages of topic on good old Asmo. Now thinking back to the old Dragonmount boards I'm inclined to say 300 pages is a very conservative estimate.:D So my question is... WHERE DO ALL THE OLD ASMO THREADS GO? IS there an elephant's graveyard for disused threads? Perhaps more importantly can we ever recover all the priceless debate that's practically gone down the proverbial tube?:-\
  23. George R R Martin eh? Gutsy, Gutsy man. Without spoiling it for you I'll try and sum up A Song of Ice and Fire briefly. THERE WILL BE BLOOD. Oh and don't get too attached to any characters like you would in Wheel of Time. You'll just end up spending a lot of time mourning.;)
  24. Hey having started a post similar to this a while ago I thought I'd put in my two cents. Having read the first three books in SOT now and about to embark on the fourth I don't really get all the fuss. I mean, okay, Sisters of Light and those collars of theirs, Rada'Han, sure I can understand anger over that. Aside from that I probably enjoy Sword of Truth as much as I've ever enjoyed WOT and I don't think Goodkind's series impinges on WOT in any way other than what I've mentioned. They're both brilliant series and let's face it you can find pluses and minuses anywhere if you look hard enough. I for one really like the way Goodkind wrap up every storyline with each book. RJ leaves you hanging which is good too but when I read WFR and realised that the story arc was going to be all wrapped up by the end of the book I practically did a tap dance. WOT is a much more light hearted story and tends to gloss over violence. I mean RJ built up Semhirage as the mistress of pain but can we truly think of any truly blood chilling, cringe worthy moments from her? I really got into the sections of WFR involving the Mord Sith, won't elaborate but it's worth a read. WOT is brilliant because even in it's darker moments it's never too disturbing and I must say humor is far more present in WOT and I would describe that as one of WOT's best features. One more thing. I believe that I identify more with Richard and Kahlan, SOT, than with a lot of the WOT characters. It's probably because I feel they've been through real hardship. I identify with Morgase now with all she's been through but frankly I couldn't care less about Elayne, Nynaeve, Most AES SEDAI etc simply because they haven't struggled one tiny bit or shown any attempt at evolving/growing up. In that respect Sword of Truth and A Song of Ice and Fire have done a much better job of making me care about characters because of all they've suffered through and learnt. Every series has it's good and bad. I still adore WOT but I just might like SOT just as much and don't see liking one as hating the other. ;)
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