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Elan Tedronai

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  1. If RJ intended Cads to become Amyrlin,he intended Egwene to die.Doubt tht u can blame Sanderson for it. However the manner of death was real cheesy,tht I think was pure Sanderson. If rj intended egwene to die then sanderson wouldnt be so vague about her death, He is not answering the question. who killed egwene? him or rj?
  2. egwene's death was a product of sanderson. Nothing more nothing less. eventually after years and the enclyopedia already out the truth will eventually merge. To be honest, you could tell. The lack of emotion on the super girls, the laughable taim battle, the addition of 'oh noes vora's sangreal has no buffer' last minute etc etc. His refusal to come out and say outright whether he nerfed egwene or was it RJ just seals the deal.
  3. If egwene's death was RJs sanderclown would have no hesitation in saying so. The fact that he's dillydallying around the issue and leaving up in the air is his way of shirking from answering the question truthfully. He cant lie since there are other people with access to Rj's notes. Anyways i am glad my hunches proved right from the start.
  4. I guess the secret of why was the cadsuane scene added into the epilogue by sanderson is finally out. He killed off egwene. well done sanderson well done.
  5. So sanderclown confirmed what we all knew. He killed egwene and gawyn. I knew it. And it's a big egg on those who claimed egwene's death was RJ. It just didnt make any sense. when you have went through pages and pages of character development and yet be the sole death amongst the emond's fielders then it's time to be suspcious. The lack of reaction from the characters to egwene's death and cadusuane bit in the epilogue was just the confirmation to the nth degree
  6. One of the greatest failures of rand. Not finishing off the seanchan when he had the chance back in TGS. For all of lews therin's moral deificiencies, he would have wiped out this slave dealing baffoons
  7. you forget this guy got sammael killed. worthless forsaken in a sea of clowns. its sad when the two weakest forsaken caused the most damage in the book
  8. Taim's turned welyn, mezar, sandomere in addtion of having the likes of miishraile, coteren and god knows how many other turned ashamen and black ajah under his disposal. yet he lost to a pageboy and bunch of kids I am still trying to get my head around it
  9. All the battle hardened aes sedai are actually 2000 years of bickering, bitching does that to people. The aes sedai were useless for most part of the battles. Not suprised to see the sharans take out alot of them. I found the yellows to be the most useful since they are always at the fore front healing people. The greens always talk a good game but they are clowns the majority of them
  10. i give up. i have nothing further to add your honour except to say that when a man who is drawing so much of the power barely fends of a shield and runs away from the scene of the battlefield equals breaking the law of the thirteen then we need to call it quits
  11. That's because rand grew more powerful since book 6. Rand is fully knowldgeable about the power like his alter ego He was expecting it And he still barely fended it off. A few moments later had he not travelled he would have been shielded enteri, look we can sit here all day and say the circle taim was leading could have been 13 or a 72 circle. no one knows for a fact. What we do know is Lews therin telamon said you cant break a shield of 13. We have the word of asmodean You need to show me one instance in the book where rand broke through a circle of 13. You need to show me an instance where rand could not have been sheilded by a circle of 13 I am waiting.
  12. he held it off for a short time because he was expecting it. And he was channelling through an angreal. I used to remember enteri saying maradon was proof of rand being greater than LTT. Turns out he was using an angreal. Lolz In the end he had to retreat because sooner or later that shield would have enveloped him. Rand is LTT is rand. The dragon soul does not mysteriously get new powers with each turning of the wheel. BBM explained everything in that post of his
  13. That was due to the DR being one with the land.Of course. You need to take a holistic view. No I have to take the view the authors told us is correct.You are good at ferreting out what the authors say, I give you that. Rand has been affecting the Pattern, from apples to trees. It is not mere tricks via OP that made DF's shied away or kill themselves in TOM, Egwene stating he would break the 13 shield etc. We had this discussion prior to AMOL and I was proven correct, once again. So I don't want to harp on this. I suggest you wait for the Encyclopedia for more evidence. At the end of AMOL, he is neither ta'avern or has any access to the OP or TP, yet lights the pipe. If rand could break a circle of thirteen why did he run away from taim's 13? he barely pushed it back Because Taim's 13 weren't trying to shield him? err they were read it again pal They were trying to shield him. Of course they were also trying to kill him as well: "The other channelers wove to enchance the strom...it could strike Rand". Now according to Rand's PoV, the "full circle" was led by a man. We know there is no need for a man to be in charge, unless it is to extend a size of a circle. This circle may have been larger than 13. If it was led by Taim, who is much stronger than any Aes Sedai, the Power of this full circle > one's faced at the WT. Rand's PoV, "at least three dozen" Dreadlords attacking him, and very likely similar number of females. With those kind of numbers, it would have been foolish of Taim to just have a circle of 13, given what Rand did at Maradon. Dude you just playing semantics at the moment. it doesnt matter if it was thirteen or 72. the point is rand's alter ego lews therin telamon the dragon thought you cannot withstand a shield of 13. Whether it's led by taim or sorilea is besides the point. The onus is on you to proof that rand could break through a circle of thirteen.
  14. he said the amount of power it would require to balefire him would cause the world's destruction. Balefire is the most lethal weave out there. You telling me rand will use lighting bolts and fire on shaitan to kill him? The most important point RJ wast trying to emphasis is amount of one power required. Not balefire. But the amount you would need.
  15. That was due to the DR being one with the land.Of course. You need to take a holistic view. No I have to take the view the authors told us is correct.You are good at ferreting out what the authors say, I give you that. Rand has been affecting the Pattern, from apples to trees. It is not mere tricks via OP that made DF's shied away or kill themselves in TOM, Egwene stating he would break the 13 shield etc. We had this discussion prior to AMOL and I was proven correct, once again. So I don't want to harp on this. I suggest you wait for the Encyclopedia for more evidence. At the end of AMOL, he is neither ta'avern or has any access to the OP or TP, yet lights the pipe. If rand could break a circle of thirteen why did he run away from taim's 13? he barely pushed it back Because Taim's 13 weren't trying to shield him? err they were read it again pal
  16. That was due to the DR being one with the land. Of course. You need to take a holistic view. No I have to take the view the authors told us is correct. You are good at ferreting out what the authors say, I give you that. Rand has been affecting the Pattern, from apples to trees. It is not mere tricks via OP that made DF's shied away or kill themselves in TOM, Egwene stating he would break the 13 shield etc. We had this discussion prior to AMOL and I was proven correct, once again. So I don't want to harp on this. I suggest you wait for the Encyclopedia for more evidence. At the end of AMOL, he is neither ta'avern or has any access to the OP or TP, yet lights the pipe. If rand could break a circle of thirteen why did he run away from taim's 13? he barely pushed it back
  17. i prefer RJ's answers than what some snakes may or may have not said
  18. You are confused. saidin was not used against shaitan. saidin was used to close the bore on the dark one's prison. In the act of shutting of the boe, the dark one response was to taint saidin once it came into contact with him. saidin and saidar used together during aol would mean both sides get tainted. callandor is not more powerful than coedan kal. The male kal by itself dawrfs all the power that can be handled by callandor. Let alone the female version. The power it takes to destoy shaitan would result in the destruction of the world. Basically impossible. The fact of the matter is rand could not face down taim in a circle of 13 equipped with an agreal and yet he can kill a God?
  19. read the strike at shayol ghul for your sources. the kal will burn the strongest of channellers if they tried accessing the power through anything other than the keys
  20. Robert jordan was once asked how much balefire would it take to kill the DO. the answer it would result in the end of the world. What sanderson the poor man's terry brooks writes in AMOL is irrelevant. The dark one is unkillable. Rand al thor could not defeat taim with a circle of 13 and yet he can end the life of a God? what nonsense.
  21. The first is shown to be true. The second doesn't necessarily follow, and it contradicts the books. contradicts how? the dark one just touched the world in aol and caused so damage. what do u think he will be able to do fully free? you cannot kill him. the amount of balefire needed to fry him will finish the entire world.
  22. You are both clearly wrong. This is what robert jordan says about shaitan he Dark One has promised his followers immortality and power above all others on the Day of Return. In previous interviews you have said that this is within his power. My question is, will he? I mean, he doesn't seem very loyal or trustworthy to me. If (Light forbid) he breaks free, will he remember the "little people" or just destroy all the puny humans when he remakes the world in his own image? Robert Jordan That's the big question for the Forsaken, isn't it. Can they trust the Dark One? You're right; he isn't very trustworthy or loyal. Greed leads people to believe strange things, to excuse the most abhorrent behavior on their parts—just check out the nightly news for confirmation—and at the root, that is what motivates the Forsaken and, in truth, most Darkfriends. Greed for power, greed for immortality. That makes them believe, because they want to believe. So will he grant these things? Maybe. After all, he gains more willing followers, more eager followers, if he is seen to give rewards. But will he care whether he has any followers at all in a world where he is all-powerful? Flip a coin and check which way the wind is blowing. Maybe you can find the answer there. Martin Reznick How was the Dark One created, i.e. is he a fallen angel, an inherent part of the universe, etc.? Robert Jordan I envision the Dark One as being the dark counterpart, the dark balance if you will, to the Creator...carrying on the theme, the ying yang, light dark, necessity of balance theme that has run through the books. It's somewhat Manichean I know, but I think it works. Brandon from Mission Viejo Mr. Jordan, It's fairly common knowledge that the Dark One was bound by the Creator outside of the Pattern at the moment of creation. Would it then be safe to assume, after concepts brought to light in the new release, that the world before the opening of the prison never knew true evil? If so, then was each age before the opening of the Age of Legends different facets of some utopia? As well, without major conflict between good and evil, what caused ages to pass? Thanks. Robert Jordan Given that time is cyclic, you must assume that there is a time when the prison that holds the Dark One is whole and unbroken. There is a time when a hole is drilled into that prison and it is thus open to that degree. And there is a time when the opening has been patched in a make-shift manner. But following this line the cyclic nature of time means that we have at some time in the future inevitably a whole and unbroken prison again. Unless of course, the Dark One breaks free in which case all bets are off, kick over the table and run for the window. you are dealing with a god opposite to the creator. you cannot kill him. fain rand nobody can
  23. You cannot destroy shaitan. wtf is new age thining? This is not dragonslance where gods die like dime a dozen. Shaitan equals the creator. you dont destroy him. He destroys you if he ever broke from his prison
  24. That scene with fain with the mother and child in lord of chaos instantly surpassed him above all villains in the books. This guy had a genuine villainous character. he become a favourite of mine. What a shame it ended in a damp squib Sorry BBM but there is no arc for fain in AMOL. Nothing to discuss
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