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  1. Not good news in my opinion. I felt like the incessant changing of POVs really screwed up ToM (in addition to the unncessary amount of time devoted to Perrin's plot line). It really made the book feel fragmented and scatter brained. It's hard to follow plot lines when they are broken up into 30 different pieces and scattered throughout the book.
  2. I'd recommend ebay for the hardcovers. I got most of the hardcovers for like $5-$10 each, including shipping. Very cheap. I accidentally bought a BCE of The Fires of Heaven on the first go-around, and I thought the build quality was inferior. The text is noticeably smaller and more cramped too.
  3. I've been curious for many many books about what the Ogiers' ultimate role in all this is going to be...so I picked the Great Stump.
  4. What's up with the totally stupid dancing pose Rand is in? Ruins the cover for me. Wasn't expecting to say this, but I think the Sweet cover would have been better.
  5. I must be one of the few people who don't like it. Rand's stupid dancing pose ruins it.
  6. Lord Davies wasn't so bad. I thought the worst name in that passage was Morear...I know Brandon admits he isn't as good at picking names, but Morear made me cringe as a I read it. It was either "mo' rear" or "more-ear" in my head and both sounded silly.
  7. I'd like to see Whelan draw his interpretation of DKS's draft so that there is some degree of consistency between AMoL's cover and all the others. Otherwise it's going to stick out like a sore thumb.
  8. Just wanted to say that after my initial, disappointed reaction, I've since read Brandon's blog post on the issue, and after a few days I've become totally OK with the release date decision. After all these years, I'm not going to let a few extra months get me down. And a better, more polished book as a result? I'm sold.
  9. "I will not always be with you." Moiraine to Rand in tFoH.
  10. Lol, is this some kind of early April's Fools joke? Brandon is almost done with his 2nd revision but the book won't come out for 11 more months yet? I thought Brandon estimated the revisions would take about 6 months. Now it's a full year?? *Grumble*
  11. I think chapter 20 of tFoH, "Jangai Pass", confirmed my theory. Moiraine informed Rand that Elaida had become the Amyrlin Seat, but "oath to obey or no, she would not tell him how she knew that".
  12. An AS who swears an oath of obedience (or any oath, outside of those sworn on an oath rod) is at least as bound to them as anyone else would be. Conceivably more so, if breaking that oath was in turn a violation of the 3 Oaths. I hardly think it's a loophole - anyone with any sense of honour or honesty will think twice at the very least before breaking such a strong oath - and going back on your word when you've given your word so strongly could destroy any trust you've built up. Moiraine has no easy out for giving such a strong oath. Moiraine's easy way out was the fact that she knew what was going to happen with her falling into the Ter'angreal. She saw that in Rhuidean. So she would make any pledge necessary to gain Rand's trust because she knew her time was so short. But she still wanted the freedom to do whatever she wanted and I think that's why she gave an oath instead of simply saying she would obey him. Tricked Rand into thinking she was bound by the Three Oaths when she really wasn't.
  13. I'm just re-reading tFoH and I'm pretty sure the original plan was to simply have Avi spy on Rand for them. They specifically said something along the lines that most men would trust a pretty face. After they realized that wouldn't work, they just wanted Avi to be around Rand to gather information about what he does, and to have him taught about Aiel customs. And then, I suspect that one of the Dreamwalkers saw Rand dreaming of Avi, in a way that made it clear that he was, subconsciously at least, becoming attracted to her. That is when the Wise Ones started talking about having her share his bed.
  14. If anything, surely you're just proving the point that they exist within a flawed system. It's not always easy to see the flaws from the inside - and not always easy to fix those flaws if you do see them. Yes, many of them are prejudiced against wilders. However, throughout history, a great many people have been prejudiced against other races, seeing them as inferior. Should we take from that that most people throughout history are not decent, or should we take from that decent does not mean perfect? Even decent people can have flaws. They're not monsters, merely people. They have no more need of Oaths than do normal people. Didn't Egwene go through this whole argument with herself? At first she didn't like having to Swear the Three Oaths, but in the end she decided it was a vital element of what being an Aes Sedai was.
  15. Anyway, the reason I brought this subject up was because it immediately sprung to mind when I recently re-read the chapter in tFoH where Moiraine swears to follow Rand and not try to manipulate him. Instead of simply saying, "I will not guide or manipulate you" she swears one of the strongest oaths possible. Rand is shocked and is certain that under a such a strong oath, he can trust Moiraine now. But if what I think is true, instead it was a clever subversion of Three Oaths that binds Moiraine to nothing. But, more importantly, I think this subject could have significant consequences for the Aes Sedai sworn to the Asha'man in the Black Tower. They were forced to swear obedience to their Asha'man captors right? They surely think the Aes Sedai are obedient servants bound by their Three Oaths, not realizing that the very oaths they made the AS swear created a giant loophole in the Three Oaths. This opens up the possibility of a very interesting Aes Sedai revolt at the Black Tower...
  16. Do you remember whereabouts this was mentioned in the books?
  17. I would think that only applies in the context of making a factual statement. So if an Aes Sedai has some weird color blindness and really thinks that the sky is green, she can say "The sky is green". Even though it's a false statement, she really believes it to be true. But not so when making a statement of intent like "I will obey you". It's a very black and white thing with no wiggle room. The Aes Sedai is bound to obey because as soon as she disobeys, she has spoken a word that is not true. The Aes Sedai could perhaps skirt around it a bit and do something disobedient if she can come up with a convincing reason that it's actually still obeying, but other than that, she is bound. I still think swearing an oath is a clever subversion of the Three Oaths. Even making a pledge or a promise would have the same effect. It essentially creates a second layer of statement that separates the Aes Sedai from the binding nature of the Three Oaths. This is part of the reason why Aes Sedai never seem to say things simply and when they do, it's usually a very powerful moment.
  18. I tried to get one of my friends started on WoT with New Spring and it didn't work. I thought the story was simple and engaging but I hadn't really realized how much Jordan took for granted about the reader, with it being written towards the end of the series. He said there were too many terms that weren't explained.
  19. Think of it this way. If an Aes Sedai swore an oath of fealty or swore to anything at all, and then she broke her oath, would it not still be true that she swore the oath? The words of her statement would still be true so she would not have violated the Three Oaths.
  20. If an Aes Sedai swore an oath of fealty would that not actually loosen the grip of the Three Oaths? The First Oath is to "speak no word that is not true". So by swearing an oath, the truth of what an Aes Sedai said is simply the fact that she swears by it, rather than what she swears to. So if an Aes Sedai simply says "I will obey you," she must obey because it was said simply. But if she says "I swear to obey you," the Aes Sedai is free to be disloyal or disobey because she's only breaking the oath she swore.
  21. The clock has been set. By the end of July, we will all have read the last book of the WoT. Can. Not. WAIT!
  22. I enjoyed the Legends version but thought the novella was a waste of effort. Almost everything RJ added to the Legends version for the novella was filler and ended up making the story less enjoyable. That time would have been much better spent on the main series.
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