Hope you like it. It's not as well written as I would like, but english isn't my mother tonge and this...this metaphysic things are so hard to explain, but I did my best.

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/80190-plot-specific-the-nature-of-the-waking-world-ww/

PD: Keep in mind that what I mention as prove are just tidbits of what you can find in the books. And not all of what I say is necessarily true for the theory to hold. If I were to read again the whole series and write down the evidence I find in each book, I could fill pages. I'm sure you will be aware of that as soon as you read the theory.

Also there is no mention to very important supportive points as the "ultimate death". It is actually a very incomplete post but I wrote it with what came to my mind at the moment, as I don't really have the time to sit and start thinking for hours about it.

The first one is absolutely stunning!

About TAR and the ultimate death, I will refer to the TAR-RW;WW-TARF theory. I support it completely and matches absolutely everything.

TAR-RW: TAR-Real World

WW-TARF: Waking World-TAR Folding (made by the Creator)

I'm glad to hear about his success :) I hope we keep seeing great works by Brandon's hands.

I LOVE the last one. It's simply amazing.

In regards to Kari al'Thor, there was one other possibilty i wondered with her scene with Ishamael. Could it be possible the Kari was a dark friend? This would explain how Ish or the dark one would have access to her soul. I suppose that would have other rammifications as to wether she would know that infant Rand was the dragon reborn or not but i always found that curious.

In regards to Kari al'Thor, there was one other possibilty i wondered with her scene with Ishamael. Could it be possible the Kari was a dark friend? This would explain how Ish or the dark one would have access to her soul. I suppose that would have other rammifications as to wether she would know that infant Rand was the dragon reborn or not but i always found that curious.

Regarding this, I always thought that Kari was an illusion made by Ishamael to be as realistic as he could. Just terrifice Rand.

I think it's pretty simple. As the LB aproaches the Pattern is unraveling more and more. And this unraveling of the Pattern is what causes the time-warping effect that makes ghosts appear. In other words, they're not really ghosts, just images of the past. That's why we can see an entire village disappear. Even if the ghosts were DO's doing, it wouln't make sense the appereance of a village, so I don't think they're souls brought back.

Love your ideas this week ^^

I think the Iron Throne by Simonetti is so awsome too ^^

Still, notice that it isn't Martin's vision of the throne. He only said it was the best fitting image he had seen so far.

^^

Before I didn't have the time to read the other comments, but now I find fascinating the idea of the choras being a key to this mechanism.

Now I have in mind two different possibilities.

1-Maybe the choras feed on One Power pools and then act as "transmiters" of some kind, spreading all around them the Standing Flows.

But this doesn't seem quite true as Avendesora should then be placed above a pool and the Wise One's would have noticed that presence. 

This leads me to my second idea:

Maybe once the choras are grown they don't need to feed on the One Power anymore and simply procude Standing Flows through a process like our worlds photosynthesis.

I like this idea a lot. It would mean that in the AoL wherever a chora was, the air was filled with "One Power dust" of some kind. At this point I don't think the Standing Flows are flows at all, I imagine it now as some kind of One Power presence in the enviroment from which the ter'angreal (specially made for that purpose) would feed energy.

If you think about it, nowadays that kind of energy transmision already exists, but it would be dangerous for human life (high energy waves) so it can't be used. The contact with the One Power is not dangerous for human life, so it could be possible.

Also, in AoL the lifespan of even normal people was greater than what we are used to, and you may argue that it was because of the great advances in medicine and almost total absence of disease, but I also think that if this theory were true, maybe the One Power present on the enviroment would have a small retarding effect in everyone.

You missed one important thing. In the AoL Aes Sedai really were servants of all, and the status of any person in society was directly related to that person's social-improving achievements. So I think they would be more than happy to make the use of ter'angreal "public".

As of the Standing Flows' nature, my personal opinion is that there were created and refilled pools all around the world (as you said), but also some kind of static conducting net like our electricity. The Aes Sedai who created a, for example, fire-producer ter'angreal would tie to it flows taken from this net, and therefore anyone in reach of that net (that I suppose covers the world most like our electricity) could use it.

As for Egwene, she was doomed to die from over using to much of the power after her love died. it was foreshadowed in the first book when matrim spoke the old tongue the first time, she almost understood it. No help from anything or anyone could have saved her.

I don't get this. Can someone explain?

I don't think she is the Pattern or the Wheel.

The Aiel/Jewish theory is interesting, but I think you shouldn't lose sight of one of your own statements: Brandon included Nakomi in that scene with Aviendha, ii wasn't RJ's doing. I think this is important.

Who knows how would RJ have handled this matter? Maybe he didn't have planed Nakomi aiding Aviendha at all. Maybe he had other scenes in mind, or even just that last one, with no name at all, for us to wonder.

I believe she is the Creator's avatar because I believe no other entity could perform a body swap. It's an imposible thing to accomplish even for WoT logic. I also think she is the Creator's avatar because I don't give too much thinking to "why help Aviendha of all people". As I said we don't know if this was originally planed. 

A scene that I would have loved is Nakomi appearing to Egwene and giving her the clue to Belfire's oposite for example, as I find it hardly believable for her to just guess it. There's quite a few trascendental moments where Nakomi could have intervined, had the book been written by RJ.

So that's my point of view. Also note that if the Creator could talk to Rand in  tEotW and before entering Shayol Ghul, there's no reason he wouldn't be ablo to communicate with other people, and making himself a body doesn't really change a lot, just makes it less..."creepy" for the other person.

That will be nice to read :)

I wouldn't mind if it couldn't be explained though. Writters need some "unexplanable space" to create their magic, and it's only natural that we let that little bits slip.

If we start being too pricky (if that's the word....) about veracity we spoil a fantasy book.

That's my opinion :)

I still think she's the Creator's version of Shaidar Haran.

I'm more worried about what will happen to his depth vision if he loses the ta'veren-ness. I do presume that's the reason he still can operate normally with only one eye... So if he stops being ta'veren, does he then suddenly lose his depth vision, like any other one-eyed man? No more knife throwing on Mat then...

I'm more worried about what will happen to his depth vision if he loses the ta'veren-ness. I do presume that's the reason he still can operate normally with only one eye... So if he stops being ta'veren, does he then suddenly lose his depth vision, like any other one-eyed man? No more knife throwing on Mat then...

He already lost the deph vision. It's stated so a few times on the book. He is still able to throw knives with perfect aim because of his luck. In his own words "Luck works better when you can't see anyways" (paraphrasing).

For the sake of truth I must say this post was a little bad. But don't take me wrong, I love the section and you do an amazing work. I just think it's better to be sincere, and this week it's a little weak (ba-dum-tss!).

Looks pretty good. I'll look into it.

Agree with Zetta, but I think there's more to it. I think it's a dual prophecy. It is a prophecy that talks both about Rand and about the Wheel. Don't forget that their destinies are bonded quite strongly. Rand is one with the land after all.

After reading this post I think Rand could really Sing, and that's how he grew things. Still, this doesn't quite explain other situacions (clouds banishing....?, crops unspoilng....?). Lighting the pipe has definetly nothing to do with Singing, it's almost opposite to the nature of that Talent.

I don't know how can it be so hard to so many people to accept the Waking World-Dreaming World theory, really. It's the only one that explains everything and it perfecly fits.

Oh, I was right, good to know xD

 

 

.., he fights for inevitability. 

Why do you resist, Mr. Anderson?

Haha that was so good.

I don't think so. A turned person is easily recognizable looking him in the eyes. I know Rand would have noticed this if it was true.

Moridin isn't like the other Forsaken because he isn't evil as they are. I've had this conversation many times, and I still maintain that Ishamael is not a bad person in his core. He is a victim of sheer logic. It's mentioned more than once through the series that he turned to the shadow because his philosofy and logic (that the Wheel would turn endlessly and the Last Battle would happen once and once again until the DO wins and breaks the Wheel, ending time) led him to an unquestionable resolution: that the Shadow would eventually win, sooner or later. Once under the Shadow he gets entangled like everyone else, but he doesn't fight for evil, he fights for inevitability.

As for the Aes Sedai going to the Black Tower, I don't think there's a single passage on the book that sais AS consider men channelers as Shadow. They persecution of the male channelers is fueled only by the fear of madness. They were reckless in going there thinking it all would be so easy, but they didn't have reason to believe the BT was Shadow-controled.

Or maybe a mistake. Just saying xD

And what about him being in a relationship with three women? A know-it-all houghty queen, a kickass bartender and a proto-wiseone maiden. I mean.... doing THAT and still being alive is obviously the most impossible thing he has done so far LOL.

Now seriously, i think marrying three women will be one of the impossible things he will achieve in the last book.