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  1. In the scene where Androl and Pevara captures a turned one, Emarin asks Pevara: "Can he hear?" and she says "no", even though she knew that he in fact could. That's an Aes Sedai lying right there
  2. I'd say you should read all of it at least once. I've read most parts 6-8 times, but most of the Elayne/Nynaeve parts from books 4 through 7 I've read only twice. I like to read the forums and find things I missed earlier, but I think that only works for some people. I would advice you to try it out. A basic understanding of what has happened goes a long way though.
  3. Elayne. Aviendha is to scary, and would probably demand to be on top. Min is to frail. Elayne is the perfect combination of hard and soft. Also, she's by far the hottest!
  4. In case no one mentioned it; the aiel joke "Why do Far Dareis Mai use handlanguage? 'cause they can't stop talking, even when they're not talking". Cracks me up!
  5. Another good one, although it might not be "quiet" - Rand in tDR, when he lines up a squadron of DF's with the power and makes them bow to him!
  6. The start of The Dragon Reborn, after Rand caused the earthquakes, he talks to Perrin, talking about all the people dying for him. The one I always mention, Moiraine's letter to Rand. Start of tGH, when Egwene thinks to herself that no one will be allowed to harm Rand. There are so many. God, I need to read through the whole thing again!
  7. The end of Moiraine's letter to Rand: "May the light illumine and protect you. You will do well."
  8. You're forgetting who was behind this whole plot - Mesaana
  9. I'd let Egwene ride me, too. So what we're saying here is, by extension, that Egwene was raped by Bela, aka the Dark One, without knowing it? Explains a lot
  10. There is a MAJOR difference between the situation you are referring to, and the hypothetical scenario you present; in one, you have a small piece of trivia, while the other includes the biggest, most important thing in the series. See, who's better between the two is nothing more than a theoretical interest of the fanbase atm, and not really that big a deal. So why would Robert Jordan care which one of the two has actually had the most impressive fights? What you say about the Dragon isn't even comparable. Also, you and Kael Pyralis propose that the books suggest that Gawyn is in fact the better swordsman. I disagree; the books suggest that both are very, very good, but there's no evidence to suggest that one is, in fact, better than the other. One has done more impressive things on-screen, I will agree, but that doesn't suggest that he is better than one who hasn't had the opportunity to show of skills in the same way. The fact that Gawyn works harder does not in fact suggest anything. That is just a fact in and of itself; it has no value in determining who's better, only who works harder. I would agree that, were I to guess based solely on what's written in the books, I would guess Gawyn. But that has nothing to do with looking at the evidence, just at looking at each's number of achievements. As long as neither has failed, we have no real ground for comparing the two.
  11. @ Suttree; while I agree that what we have of "objective" references suggest that Galad is in fact the better swordsman (in addition to the fact that he is; it's canon), I disagree with using Gawyn's PoV as reference as it's quite clearly stated in the earlier books that Gawyn is not able to perceive Galad objectively.
  12. I got a chucle out of your post, but specifically the bit I qoute may not be far-fetched... Min had a viewing of Lan way back in tEotW, in Baerlon: This viewing must be his and Nyneave's son. We may have written this viewing off previously, since we still hadn't discovered his identity of being King of Malkier to that point. But we also know that Min's viewings are of the future, so unless this was a mistake by RJ, or he hadn't fully fleshed out Min's viewings at that point, I'd say this is foreshadowing that he'll have a son. I hope this also means he'll survive his charge at Tarwin's Gap, but Nyneave may already be pregnant. I don't know, we're pretty sure Min's viewing about Thom and a "man juggeling fire" is about his dead at the time nephew Owyn. The baby in the cradle with a sword is a phrase used to describe Lan as a baby at some point in the books (I think EotW or tGH).
  13. Like Ned Stark was? I see your point though, it seems unlikely that, say, Snow will die. But other PoVs like Daenerys, Jamie or Tyrion, do these seem immortal to you? Anywhere near Mat or Perrin, Egwene or Nynaeve? It's not about the numbers of "importance A"-characters to die, it's about the fact that in GoT, Martin displayed willingness to let them do so, something which still sticks. I don't expect people to die all the time, but WoT goes WAY to far in protecting main character's lives. That being said, I stopped reading aSoIaF after book three 'cause I just didn't like them at all. Even so, the fear of the characters lives made me go through two more books when I kinda hated the first one. It's about tension. Put it this way, when tGS first came and you read through it, was there any point where you feared for a main character's life? It should have been, because there were dangerous situations, but at least for me, there was not. Rand is one thing, but Egwene and Nynaeve at least ARE expandable. Rand with Semirhage in tGS would have been a more powerful scene if Semirhage had made Rand kill Min. It would have made more sense as well ( in as, nothing more can be done to me this time). I love Min, but still. Verin isn't a character of the same importance (I'm not speaking of the plot, but her emotional value to the reader) as, say, Min. The only one of those we lost were Moiraine, a tragic but heroic death - oh, did I say death? I meant couple of month's absence. Don't misunderstand me, Moiraine might be my absolute favorite char of all time, and Min is lovely, but I want some of them to die just as much as I want the ones I hate to die. It's about loss, which is an emotion I feel way to little when I read WoT. I mean, at the end of Moiraine's letter to Rand, "May the light illumine and protect you. You will do well". Even writing it I get a chill. Moiraine coming back might be one of the most "meh" moments of my life. (It's sad, but that's another story :p) I don't like the elaborate brutality of aSoIaF, but while I am dying to put my hands on aMoL, I'm not really dreading mayhem. When Brandon talks about a main character dying, I have the feeling that it's like Bashere or something. That's not enough for me. To further elaborate, here's a list of the people I am talking about: Rand - not gonna happen. Perrin - not gonna happen. If he could have died at the end of book four, he would have been one of my favorite chars. Mat - not gonna happen. Instead he lost an eye. Min - should have died to Rand's hand during the whole Semirhage-mess. Aviendha - not really a MAJOR character, but she does hold some emotional value for me. Elayne - seems really unlikely. I like Elayne, so it would have been a sad death for me. At the same time, it would have been awesome. Faile - not a character I like, but one who's death could have worked well as a stage on which Perrin could shine. Tuon - only on the list cause of Mat. Don't really care for her. Egwene - To late now. Egwene dying in the rebel camp to Aran'gar would have made the Forsaken a force the readers would actually fear, and could be brilliant as something more to happen to Rand. Nynaeve - I LOVE Nynaeve. She should definitely have died (tough love, as they say :p) Lan - These two should die together in aMoL. The one death (or two) I still think I might have. Thom - don't think he will die now. Moiraine - "dying", coming back, then dying again? everything awesome with Moiraine and her enormous sacrifice for humankind was wiped away with her return. Siuan - could have died while saving Egwene at some point. Now, seems unlikely. Taim - little emotional value except through Rand. That is a lot, though. Might be more, but that's most of them for me. This list made me remember when I read ToM for the first time, and Bryne and Siuan died and was like "wow omg we almost died", and I was like "dude, this happens like 20 times each book". I think this might be one of the reasons I feel book 7-> are way worse than the six first. All the tension has gone. Which is besides the point whereas I am concerned, as I hope you have understood. I tend to just ramble, so if you don't catch what I'm saying, you're probably not alone :p
  14. There's a character in asoiaf called something like Lord Trebor Jordayn of Tor.
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